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 Post subject: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 3:02 am 
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That is right, folks. I have decided that I am retiring from RV, this time for good. I know I just got back like a month ago, but you have to realize something and that's that I only requested to be unbanned for one month's time. Now, as I understand it mangement didn't really want me back even for that long, but Hiker overruled them and decided not just to let me back for a month, but for good or until I got in trouble again.

Now folks, with my track record here and the fact that I've quit my meds again (for good this time), the idea that I wouldn't get in trouble again is pretty close to slim to none, and people seem to recognize this fact. Just five minutes ago in the chat room, Jaron was reminding me that I'm on a "last chance unban" because I was off my meds, and while I question whether or not this is unequivocally true if I really, really wanted to come back if I got banned again, it does go to show that people don't trust me when I am off my meds, probably for good reasons. However, I've stopped taking my meds again recently because I forgot to take them, but now that I am off them I realize that the "happiness" I experience while I am on them is fake. It's synthetic happiness, and it's designed by the drug companies in cahoots with the government in order to keep people in line and to prevent them from spreading thoughts that are outside of the mainstream. The government doesn't want it to get out that life is ultimately meaningless in order to prevent the demoralization of the populace, because if it does, people will stop trying to make anything of themselves and just sit on the government dole until their either kill themselves or die of natural causes. As you can imagine, that would be a disaster for the nation and its economy, so they contract the drug companies and doctors to produce the happy pills to keep people in line. I decided that I'm not going to stand for it, however, and have refused to take my medicine since my thoughts cleared due to the lack of drugs in my system.

So while my departure is half defensive in case I do decide I want to come back to RV eventually, that's not the primary reason why I am departing. See, I am interested in the financial markets and I believe that, ultimately, everything comes back to money. So you can probably understand that I am quite proud of my recent accomplishments that put even the Buffett Partnership and Benjamin Graham to shame, not to mention the larger, bulkier Berkshire Hathaway. However, when I brag about my accomplishments on the website, nobody seems to want to give me the respect that I deserve. People praise Warren Buffett for his beautiful ~20% CAGR of book value per share of Berkshire Hathaway even though he acknolwedges that its increase in capital will make it difficult to significantly outperform the S&P 500 from here on, but nobody seems to bat an eye at my portfolio's CAGR, which far exceeds even that due to my shrewd investments.

Even my 50% to 80% returns aren't good enough for anyone to care about my performance. Nevermind the fact that I'm in the top 1% of one of the largest investment communities in the planet, beat every stock-based mutual fund in the world in 2008 and, last but not least, have more than tripled my money in a bankrupt mall operator in a little more than a quarter. How many threebaggers have you guys participated in during your time in the equity markets? For that not to get so much as a "way to go, Sah," or a, "that's awesome, Sah" from the vast majority of you is entirely disappointing to me as a capital allocator.

However, I can't decide what you feel is or isn't important, and despite my numerous attempts to help the members of this website understand the capital markets, I'm usually just told to "shut up because nobody cares," or even worse ignored entirely. It irritates me to no end that while I've tried to help the users of this website understand investing better, I'm still looked down upon as a troublemaker because of my disagreements with other members and management in the past. I made mistakes in some cases, yes, but I still thoroughly believe that I was in the right in the majority of the times I've been embroiled in a feud here. Nevertheless, for that to take away from my efforts to help the members understand finance more thoroughly is a shame, because if you guys could learn how to spot opportunities and manage to get even close to the investment returns that I've been able to, you'd be very, very wealthy when it came time for you to retire. With just a $1,000 initial investment and another $500 added annually, if you could manage a 20% CAGR with your investments, in 35 years you'd have $2,359,672.92 pre-tax. Such is the power of compounding, and for telling me to shut up while I tried to teach you how to do this, to me, is quite offensive, but obviously I can't decide what you all choose to care about, I can only hope that you'll learn at least this admittedly basic concept as early as you possibly can. But, if you guys aren't going to show me the respect I deserve, you're not going to be learning it from me.

So yeah, I'm retiring, partly because I know I'm liable to get into trouble right now and partly because I don't think I'm being given the respect I deserve. You can agree or disagree, but it's not really going to impact my thoughts on how I feel I should be treated either way. I'll include a short list of members who have been nice to me or who have particularly interested me. For those of you who have been nice to me, there is a special place in my heart and I hope to talk to you on Skype, MSN or whatever.

Blackmage- I don't remember the rest of your username, sorry. I know you think I'm a self-serving :bunny: on account of my feelings about breast cancer, but nevertheless I find you very interesting despite not knowing you very well. I think you're one of the few people here who have a real chance of making something of themselves as investors, just due to your seemingly insatiable craving for knowledge about finance. Good for you, but one word of caution; when you get deeper into your education and start learning about modern portfolio theory, discard it entirely. Modern portfolio theory is a scam perpetrated on students, mostly by business schools but also by some financial professionals as a result of those schools. Since you seem interested in the medical field, I'm hoping for your sake you'll be able to dodge it entirely, but with your focus on economics it's likely to come up. Which, interestingly, brings me to another point: a deep economics has been, from my experience, mostly useless when it comes to investing. A general understanding of the economy will be much more useful to you, mostly due to being able to tell whether or not businesses are suffering from economic headwinds or benefiting from economic tailwinds. Even so, I've not found myself relying on that particularly much when evaluating companies; a solid understanding of fundamental analysis will prove far more useful than either of those two, but a general understanding of the economy is a very good thing to have if you use it properly, but I don't worry about you at all in this regard. As I said, fundamental analysis is where it's at.

Sammy- I haven't seen you lately and even though I have a sneaking suspicion you blew me off in England (I hope that's not the case), you've been nothing but nice to me in the past so I want to thank you for that, even though I've been a bit upset with you lately. I think I can get past that, though, if you want to remain friends, even if you did pull a Humble on me.

Jem & Tom- Thanks for hanging out with me and letting me stay with you in Europe, I appreciate that. It doesn't hurt that you were nice to me, either, even if you don't agree that I'm better than everyone else.

Mord- You're mostly cool, even if we've kind of grown apart.

Fant- I don't even think you're still here, but if you find this I just wanted to let you know 2005 is the favorite year of my life to date due to you. I haven't talked with you much lately, but hopefully you've gotten around to reading Buffett's annual letters to shareholders that I supplied you with.

Anyone else- No doubt I forgot someone. If we've been on good terms, thanks for being nice to me. Hopefully I was nice to you, too.

So, goodbye and have a nice life. If this is too "inflammatory" or whatever, feel free to close it. I don't really care anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 3:08 am 
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Respect has to be earnt, it is not just handed out freely to people that think they deserve it, you seem to not understand that.

I don't think you have the right kind of attitude for this site and I am not sorry to see you go.

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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 3:10 am 
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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 3:26 am 
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We've never really spoke Sah, and I truely thought you would turn out to be a good guy, but reading that you obviously aren't.

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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 10:09 am 
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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 12:47 pm 
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You're a really awesome person and friend to me and I don't have a bad word to say against you. Noone here knows the real you that I've come to know, so they can talk crap all they like but they don't really know anything.

I like talking to you about your accomplishments and your knowledge about money. Alot of people here have interests in different things and they like other people to listen and take an interest. They post to get praise for their achievements not have other people shoot it down which alot of the people here have done to you. I think alot of people on this site should be ashamed of themselves. For the pure fact that you expect everyone else to give a damn but when it comes to a fellow human being you don't take a damn bit of notice. It's selfish.

Anyway it doesn't matter to me that you're leaving this site because I have you on Skype :) You'll be a life long friend to me and I'll always be there to listen so screw the selfish people on here who only give a damn about themselves and their sad lives :D

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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 1:17 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 1:31 pm 
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I wish you would just take the meds again and stay. You were nice to have back. I can understand not wanting to take medication that changes you though. It's no fun being forced to be someone you're not.

I wish you the best and I'll contact you on skype whenever I need some financial advice!

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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 1:32 pm 
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Now folks, with my track record here and the fact that I've quit my meds again (for good this time), the idea that I wouldn't get in trouble again is pretty close to slim to none, and people seem to recognize this fact. <snip> I decided that I'm not going to stand for it, however, and have refused to take my medicine since my thoughts cleared due to the lack of drugs in my system.


Quitting your meds is your choice, and I won't call it good or bad. But your reasoning for why you're given them is pretty much cynical, and would only really make sense (or settle well) with anti-government conspirists.

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So while my departure is half defensive in case I do decide I want to come back to RV eventually, that's not the primary reason why I am departing. <snip> but nobody seems to bat an eye at my portfolio's CAGR, which far exceeds even that due to my shrewd investments.


*Points to Sarah's line* Respect has to be earned. You may earn credibility if you can trump such important names, but what you do with the credibility is more important.

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Even my 50% to 80% returns aren't good enough for anyone to care about my performance. <snip> For that not to get so much as a "way to go, Sah," or a, "that's awesome, Sah" from the vast majority of you is entirely disappointing to me as a capital allocator.


Probably one of the few genuine points against us.

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However, I can't decide what you feel is or isn't important, and despite my numerous attempts to help the members of this website understand the capital markets, I'm usually just told to "shut up because nobody cares," or even worse ignored entirely. <snip> But, if you guys aren't going to show me the respect I deserve, you're not going to be learning it from me.


Whether or not you're unbanned, you still have an enormous reputation as a troll, a sexist... I don't have to list the rest, you know what you've done. Getting unbanned does not clear that reputation. Cleaning it takes time and effort.
Unfortunately, you have one enormous thing at your disadvantage. An ego. Everyone has one, and whether or not you've earned one from being as great with money as you are, flaunting it around is generally looked down upon. It's your choice to see people as being jealous of your skills, but it's (again) cynical to always assume that.
Yes, it's impolite for people to just tell you to shut up due to not caring. But let's be frank here, if everyone left due to being told to shut up or feeling / being neglected, this site would have been emptied out LONG ago.
Trying to teach people what it takes to be rich doesn't clean the slate, let alone earn you respect. Your credibility works for knowing what you're talking about, but it's the peoples' choice to not be interested or wanting to deal with someone who's (not wrongly) known for poor behavior. Whether or not it's polite for people to tell you shut up, nobody is obligated to take a lesson from you. The exact same as a college professor, as we discussed on skype, people have their own interests. If earning money your way isn't on the list, you've no right to blame them for it. Yes, you have the right to say you tried to teach (or help), but you can't honestly complain about people having individual interests.

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So yeah, I'm retiring, partly because I know I'm liable to get into trouble right now and partly because I don't think I'm being given the respect I deserve. You can agree or disagree, but it's not really going to impact my thoughts on how I feel I should be treated either way. I'll include a short list of members who have been nice to me or who have particularly interested me. For those of you who have been nice to me, there is a special place in my heart and I hope to talk to you on Skype, MSN or whatever.


I don't dislike you. I can't say I'm overly fond of some of your personal beliefs, but hell, that'll happen with everyone I meet. We never really communicated online, but rather on Skype, but I will at least say I'm happy to see you leaving on decent terms instead of for causing trouble. The confessions of teaching people to make money being personal and wanting to do so to help others better themsleves instead of flaunt your knowledge / bloat your ego came too late, but at least they're out now in case the need for them ever comes again.

Thanks for at least trying, Scott.

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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 1:42 pm 
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So... You're upset because you don't get respect for your financial prowess on a RuneScape fansite? Please tell me I'm not the only one having trouble figuring out how that makes any sense. :-s If you want to talk about economics/investing/etc, a fansite for an online MMO isn't exactly the most logical place to go for that.

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PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 5:08 pm 
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What an epically confusing post.

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PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 5:45 pm 
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You're a really awesome person and friend to me and I don't have a bad word to say against you.


I guess this sums up how I feel. Thanks for letting me ask you probably basic questions for hours on end then totally forgetting everything you taught me by the next time we get to talk. I'm sorry not everyone else sees you the way I do. Thank you so much for being my friend.

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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 6:51 pm 
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I'm a little flattered that you talked about me, lol. I'm not being sardonic here at all ^_^;

I can say that I appreciate the concern, but the fact is I'm not one for conspiracy theories. There isn't a big government scandal over healthcare, etc. I'm going through with my understanding of affairs and economics because a deeper understanding helps me from just becoming ignorant.

I used to be horrible when it came to this stuff... Seriously, I wish RV could see me back when I first joined and was that scrawny little kid who never left his computer or really cared about anything. You just gotta go outside one day and smell the flowers, man. Be a little late for a meeting one day. Screw off on a Saturday that you know you can afford. If someone brings up something to do with you or whatever and you don't know whether or not to say "yes," go ahead and say "hell yes!" instead. Sometimes life's good with a bit of spontaneity, and me, the king of insecurities, knows that better than anyone. There are some things a textbook and meds can never teach you. It sounds a little hackneyed, but it's absolutely true. I can only hope that one day you can experience the same.

NEW ENTRY: I also think you don't know nearly as much about the economy as you think you do, and your unwillingness to both admit this to yourself and take the advice and knowledge for others will lead to your ruin. I find it incredibly difficult to take anything in your post seriously because I highly doubt that you are that far at all. If you were, you wouldn't worry about getting so much "respect." Besides, if you only become successful so that others will see you as being successful, then you will never be happy. It's a horrible way to live your life and you'll develop severe psychological health problems in the future. You're going to be a very unhappy person if you don't change that about you, and that's coming from someone who's been to that hell and back. If you don't believe me, ask Gamestar. He knows everything.

ENTRY (cont): You need to wake up and smell the coffee. I recommend Starbucks "Vanilla Blend." Either that, or a good Grande Caramel Macchiato (frappuccinos are good too). Don't get a Venti though, because you know you'll drink it too fast since you know you have so much. But alas, I digress. You can't be making your life up for us and expecting us to care, because nothing will ever happen. I think you have some behavioral/social problems, but because of your extreme narcissism you won't admit it. I'm not trying to be mean: I'm telling you the truth. You need to wake up. You have issues. Shutting yourself off from life is absolutely no way deal with it. Thinking that you have it all figured out and that we should all respect you for it and all the other stuff you talked about in your previous post is absurd. I can do integrated functions in my head and have been called a literary genius for my excellence in my writing classes - but I have no need to brag about it. There's no point. I'm proud of what I've done. That's what matters. You won't find any pride in what you've done if you only look to others for acceptance.

(CONT):I'm proud of my life, and the things that I have done. I'm proud of myself, and the person I've become. You're free to whine, but it will not get you far. I do just fine with my car and my guitar.

So yeah, go live life. Don't worry about your meds. Take them: they're good for you. If they make you happy, then they must be doing something right. It's better than being depressed all the time, eh? You can have all the worries, concerns, and ideas to fix them, but you aren't going to go anywhere if you don't put them down for a bit and let yourself wander a bit.

You're at that time where life is going to hit you. It's up to you whether to back down and hope it misses, or look it dead in the eye and say "Dish it up, baby! And don't be stingy on the jalapenos!

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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 6:53 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
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 Post subject: Re: I am retiring for good this time
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 7:34 pm 
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I've only been here for a while on the forums and I had to read the post again because it didn't make sense truly. .
I don't dislike you or like you in the way of Jem or Sammy, all I have to say is : Best of luck.
And, it doesn't matter if you don't get credit for what you've done, if you have some regard for yourself, you'll give yourself some. Self-confidence is the word I'm getting at. And, self-esteem.

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PostPosted: November 23rd, 2009, 7:40 pm 
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Medicine, such as the ones you took, were made to keep you in line.
How would the person gather enough information about the government when he didn't have medicine?
What? Would he have like a sort of . . computer to check out whatever the government has?
Medicine has been made for years, even before computers were made. Even before the United States was ever made.
I highly doubt that there is a reason for why the 'government' makes medicine. I have to agree with Mentos.

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I really do hate to see you leave us like this...

I think that perhaps you're confusing lack of respect for lack of interest... I would imagine that the number of Villagers with a deep interest in the investment world is pretty low.

I respect the skills and knowledge you've developed, but it's not a subject that would hold my interest for long-- investments are pretty much past me at this point. Besides, they won't take food stamps!

Sorta like i don't imagine i could hold your interest for very long with my antique boy scout collection... :)

Maybe you could pop a couple of those pills and re-evaluate the situation?

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