Mafia Revival, 2of4: Town wins!

Spirographed · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 7:07 pm

Dude. How can you be so certain? Seriously think about it. You seemed convinced, and I'm not sure why?

Frank 4.0.1 · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 7:10 pm

Pyro wrote:

Except, if we kill Sparky, we most likely aren't taking out 50% of the mafia. But, if we take you out we definitely are.

After all, you're the one that was actually in jail last night.

unvote

Frank 4.0.1 · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 7:12 pm

Spiro

Jackstick · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 7:16 pm

Happy thoughts, happy thoughts. ☃

Landerpurex · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 7:49 pm

sparky

I'm taking Occams Razor here. I can not believe we are going through this again, hopefully we will have a successful lynch and move on from there.

Pyro, I absolutely, 100% fail to understand why you voted for defeat. This precise, exact same thing happened to you just days ago.

Quite frankly, I am suspicious of your hesitance to vote for Sparky.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 7:50 pm

Wait, I'm missing something.

Pyro, are YOU the jailer??

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 7:53 pm

Landerpurex wrote:

Wait, I'm missing something.

Pyro, are YOU the jailer??

Yes.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 7:55 pm

unvote

:facepalm:

I guess we're waiting on defeats response but something tells me absolutely nothing is going to come of this.

Spirographed · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 8:06 pm

The only thing two things I can think are happening right now are:
1) Pyro is mafia and just blew it.....again. (unlikely)
2) This is some weird Pyro logic, where he is false claiming and trying to get me to confess to something that isn't true (being mafia) and is blowing it again.

Either way, you're blowing it, man...

My vote stands. Sparky has got to go. Read Pyro's and my posts from the viewpoint of us as Jailkeeper. The truth will show.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 8:15 pm

Landerpurex wrote:

unvote

:facepalm:

I guess we're waiting on defeats response but something tells me absolutely nothing is going to come of this.

Something already has.

The mafia have now discovered who the real jailkeeper is, because they knew that Spiro had been had.

Meanwhile, we know Sparky has to be a villager because it's too risky of a play for Spiro to frame his accomplice in order to boost himself. After all, he knew a jailkeeper was in the game, and if he got his partner lynched then it was game over for him since he couldn't pull off a single kill the rest of the game unless I died.

Unfortunately, if this doesn't get resolved today, then both Spiro and I live, and if there IS a doctor, he will be torn on who to protect at night, and my chances of survive are further dropped from 33% to about 16.5%

Basically, Spiro wanted me to out myself with his play. I thought maybe I could turn the tide without outing myself, but Top's post practically sets the floor for Spiro today unless I speak up. Sure, I could wait until tomorrow for everyone to jump on Spiro, but on the 33% chance that there's a detective, I would sooner see my role fall and hope the detective catches the remaining mafia than to keep bouncing around protects and wonder if the mafia sent in a kill or motioned to not kill in order to frame someone using my abilities.

Honestly, had Spiro not roleclaimed my role, I would have kept quiet in case the mafia chose not to kill in order to get the jailkeeper to accidentally frame someone and then get lynched the next day.

But for the very person I locked up to claim my role, it's absolutely clear what's really going on.

Spiro is currently just trying to push the statement of "Remember what Pyro did last time. Are you really going to side with Pyro?" What he's leaving out, though, is that my role claim last time was sincere as well.

I hate to meta, but if meta reasons are going to be used against me, then my defense has to be meta as well.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 8:18 pm

On another note, view what I'm saying from a mafia's perspective.

I roleclaimed to PROTECT sparky. I would be completely safe going along with the easiest lynch of the day. Meanwhile, if I'm the only person defending Sparky and Sparky dies, where does that sit me? The only remaining mafia and now with a fake roleclaim on my head?

It would be absolute suicide on my part.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 8:25 pm

In fact, you could think of it as this gamble:

Situation A, Spiro is telling the truth and he caught a mafia. One mafia down, one to go.

Situation B, I am telling the truth, and I piped up when I could have stayed quiet. I would most likely be defending someone from my own team. Thus Sparky and I would both be mafia. Therefore, if you lynch Spiro today and he shows up Jailkeeper, then clearly Sparky and I are both mafia. You get 2 mafia all from killing Spiro and confirming his role.

I suppose there is also the situation where I could just be trying to kill the jailkeeper, but it's a slim chance that there's a doctor and an even slimmer chance that the jailkeeper would lock a mafia up two nights in a row. Hell, he could even lock up the doctor if there is one and screw himself over. If I was mafia, I would simply wait to kill Spiro at night instead of drawing such obvious attention to myself during the day.

Sighence · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 8:28 pm

We're not on any sort of losing threshold that might make that play viable. Spiro

I'm less willing to rule out the possibility of Spiro bussing Sparky than Pyro is (or was in his first post in this chain at least; slow it down man, you're all over the place), though.

Spirographed · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 8:32 pm

I'm actually trying to get them to read your and my posts from the beginning, with us being Jailkeeper in mind. Though, Your last game, as tragic as it was, was about your choices, not your guilt. I think you're making a poor one here with some sort of weird trap, or are Sparky's cohort and pulling a WIFOM move.

I know Sparky is mafia.
I'm not sure what Pyro is.

I guess it does make sense to lynch me statistically, and there is nothing I can do about that. This is frustrating. I don't know what to say...

Ninja'd;
If you guys lynch me, Situation B will happen. DO NOT let Pyro say this was some sort of failed experiment and talk you out of lynching him. Any lynch you pick will tell the truth, Town. You got this.

Spirographed · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 8:56 pm

Well, Top, you've picked a great name for the day.

Frank 4.0.1 · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 8:59 pm

SuperJail Warden Pyro wrote:

The mafia have now discovered who the real jailkeeper is, because they knew that Spiro had been had. ... Basically, Spiro wanted me to out myself with his play. I thought maybe I could turn the tide without outing myself, but Top's post practically sets the floor for Spiro today unless I speak up.

MafiosoGraph wrote:

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2) This is some weird Pyro logic, where he is false claiming and trying to get me to confess to something that isn't true (being mafia) and is blowing it again.

MafiosoGraph Earlier wrote:

If that's true, then the "real" Jailkeeper only has to back this up. Won't happen, because I am he.

MafiosoGraph wrote:

{you're right, there was no mess in a house}).

MafiosoGraph wrote:

Any lynch you pick will tell the truth, Town. You got this.

An incredibly handsome man from a previous game wrote:

Reading that, it looked like someone trying way too hard to appear like a villager to get some votes off himself. He was simply telling us something superficially true.

Spirographed · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 9:16 pm

Not an assumption Frank. The flavor text didn't mention a being entered at all.

Frank 4.0.1 · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2016, 10:28 pm

Spirographed wrote:

Not an assumption Frank. The flavor text didn't mention a being entered at all.

Strange Narration wrote:

The villagers congregated in the square and counted their numbers. Nobody was missing. Nobody even showed signs of being attacked. There was immediate dissent; was there really a mafia threat? Perhaps the King had committed suicide and framed it as a murder as one last joke before passing beyond the veil.

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Strange Narration wrote:

I also clarified that, as per usual, any successful protections would be announced in the day start post, whether they were by a Doctor or a Jailkeeper, but the flavor text will not clarify which of the two it was.

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Saten Ruiko · **Posted:** August 3rd, 2016, 1:02 am

Frank 4.0.1 wrote:

I literally yelled "AHH HOLY Fuzzy Bunny

" at my monitor at the conclusion of this clip.

Aragorn Ix · **Posted:** August 3rd, 2016, 1:14 am

Not this again...

If pyro is innocent I feel sorry for him that he keeps being the target of fake or dodgy role claims. I'm actually inclined to believe him over spiro, but that's just a hunch at this point.

Frank, knew you wouldn't let me down with the shenanigans.

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