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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 5:47 pm 
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mecha still.
he the most suspicious still and his logic not make sense, ignore info from past 2 days.
dumb.

but also gammythorn look scum too.
you not include mecha on list of suspicious people when he clearly one of most suspicious in game?
he come up with bad reason and lie every day dont u c.
his post from 2day seal deal 4 me because he blatant about ignore everything except 1st day when f0xy got killed but y would he do that if he was 1 of us.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 6:11 pm 
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unvote Gammerthorn

I still think he's more likely mafia than mecha, but both are being scummy so I'm willing to go along with the prevailing opinion.Mecha


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 7:00 pm 
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4/6 votes to lynch Mecha in just a few hours.

Unvote for now, to give him a chance to actually respond, without risk of mafia-hammer.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 7:23 pm 
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As I repeat, the only useable STATISTICAL data was from day one, which is of course really useless. I have not said I am ignoring what has happened the last three days, that would just be stupid.

It's just I usually base my votes on statistical data, and there is none so far. So that makes this game harder for me.

As non stat data goes, accusing seven people in one post after lurking is wack.

GAMMATHORN.

As for what Lara says, It's true I cant use the "lynching is good for the town" thing when the votes are aimed at me, but then again obviously no one cared that today could be our last day if we didn't get a lynch yesterday.

I try to point that out and "my logic is bad"
I defend myself and I'm "obviously scum"

when I voted for J1N, I wasn't voting for someone random to get a lynch, I was voting for someone that many people already had faults with, and was my most likely assumption to be mafia. Now I can only see one person with HUGE faults, and that is lurking in the NO LURK MAFIA GAME.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 7:51 pm 
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CORNELIUS wrote:
mecha still.
he the most suspicious still and his logic not make sense, ignore info from past 2 days.
dumb.

but also gammythorn look scum too.
you not include mecha on list of suspicious people when he clearly one of most suspicious in game?
he come up with bad reason and lie every day dont u c.
his post from 2day seal deal 4 me because he blatant about ignore everything except 1st day when f0xy got killed but y would he do that if he was 1 of us.

SO IF '2day seal deal 4 [u]' THEN WHY ARE YOU LEANING TOWARD MECHA?
WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE SEEING THAT I AM NOT?
MAKE ME UNDERSTAND WHY GAMMA IS NOT THE BEST CHOICE FOR A LYNCH
HE SCREAMS MAFIA WHENEVER HE DECIDES TO DROP IN
MECHA HAS EXPLAINED AND CONTINUES TO EXPLAIN HIS ACTIONS
GAMMAS LAST POST SHOTGUN ACCUSED *I REPEAT* SEVEN PEOPLE WITHOUT ASKING ANY QUESTIONS NOR EVEN VOTING FOR ONE OF THE SEVEN
HOW IS MECHA STILL GETTING MAJORITY?

ALSO
J1N TAKING A STEP BACK AND UNVOTING IS A VERY TOWN THING TO DO
ANY RESIDUAL SUSPICION OF HIM HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM MY MIND

AS FOR THE REST OF YOU: THIIIINK

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 8:21 pm 
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MECHA wrote:
It's just I usually base my votes on statistical data, and there is none so far. So that makes this game harder for me.
sorry but i do not buy this

in the most recent mafia game, the first lynch was on day 3
in the second-most recent mafia game, the first lynch was on day 4
this has been a pattern on runevillage for a while now

the kind of data you say you are missing is TYPICALLY absent

so if this game is harder for you, so are all the others

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 8:42 pm 
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MECHA wrote:
As I repeat, the only useable STATISTICAL data was from day one, which is of course really useless. I have not said I am ignoring what has happened the last three days, that would just be stupid.

It's just I usually base my votes on statistical data, and there is none so far. So that makes this game harder for me.

As non stat data goes, accusing seven people in one post after lurking is wack.

GAMMATHORN.

As for what Lara says, It's true I cant use the "lynching is good for the town" thing when the votes are aimed at me, but then again obviously no one cared that today could be our last day if we didn't get a lynch yesterday.

I try to point that out and "my logic is bad"
I defend myself and I'm "obviously scum"

when I voted for J1N, I wasn't voting for someone random to get a lynch, I was voting for someone that many people already had faults with, and was my most likely assumption to be mafia. Now I can only see one person with HUGE faults, and that is lurking in the NO LURK MAFIA GAME.


Asides from the opening line of this, which is contradictory to the highest degree, I respect this post and see it as a perfectly valid defence against my person vote for you.

In my previous post, before the unvote, I was also leaning towards Gamma, as I really am bugged by the entire post he has made. It is full of random groupings and the more I think about it, the more I feel that he is more likely to be mafia at this moment in time.

The train against Mecha seems to have gathered so much steam it feels similar to the one built against me yesterday, and since it is quite late at the moment and I am tired, I shall leave it until tomorrow to analyse the voting patterns for people who have jumped onto the train on myself and the current one on Mecha, with very little explanation. Of course, someone else is welcome to do so whilst I sleep.

Huayra, I have one comment to make regarding you right now: Whilst I am glad that I'm not being voted for left, right and centre right now, I cannot help but feel suspicious of people who make several claims to my being townie role, especially later into the day when there is little need. I know I'm town, so it starts to feel like a mafia also knows I am town, and is trying to positively reinforce me so I view them as "on my side" and don't vote for them when it counts. In the previous game this was seen with Muscular Ape and Dr Henry, and I don't want to get caught in a similar predicament. I shall be keeping my eye on you as a result of this.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 8:45 pm 
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The fact that GAMMA makes all these wild accusations but doesn't even vote is also a big issue.

On a side note, I missed the fact that ICE was modkilled. Shows how much I've bothered reading Market's posts :P


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 9:07 pm 
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J1N
I MENTIONED YOU AND YOUR LAST POST FOR THE OTHERS
NOT TO BECOME PALS
IT WAS FOR THEM TO SEE THAT A TOWNSPERSON WOULD THINK TWICE OF THE RAPIDITY OF THE MECHA TRAINS STEAM ON THIS POSSIBLY FINAL AND CRUCIAL DAY

WHY IS THIS SO?
AND WHAT IS GAMMA WAITING ON?
TO BE THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN?


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 9:15 pm 
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HUAYRA wrote:
CORNELIUS wrote:
mecha still.
he the most suspicious still and his logic not make sense, ignore info from past 2 days.
dumb.

but also gammythorn look scum too.
you not include mecha on list of suspicious people when he clearly one of most suspicious in game?
he come up with bad reason and lie every day dont u c.
his post from 2day seal deal 4 me because he blatant about ignore everything except 1st day when f0xy got killed but y would he do that if he was 1 of us.

SO IF '2day seal deal 4 [u]' THEN WHY ARE YOU LEANING TOWARD MECHA?


let me explain myself.
i am allow to think more than 1 person is mafia.
in fact we kno there are 3 maybe 4 people who r mafia.

so i am allow to have feel certain of at least 2: mecha and gammy.

hooey u r seemin mafia 2 me.
4 like reasons other people mention but if those 2 r mafia maybe mafia r allowin them 2 get votes but makin sure there r not enuff 4 full lynch.
and also i agree with jin your post where u suddenly come 2 realization that he totally a villager surely seem suspicious.
because i am villager and it not something i would say because i am not 100% sure on anyone i wouldnt want to jump 2 conclusions like that.
it seem baseless maybe.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 9:18 pm 
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so right now we have

hooey, jin, mecha vote for gammy (3 vote)
kid, lara, cornelius (me), delta vote for mecha (4 vote)

kid have change voet from gammy to mecha.
jin have change voet from mecha to gammy.
lol that's funny.

so there are 10 of us and 7 vote.
so archr, blackhawk, and gammy are not vote yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2014, 9:37 pm 
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WELL CORNELIOUS
I SAID WHAT HE DID WAS A TOWNSPERSON THING TO DO AND THAT LEFT OVER SUSPICIONS OF HIM ARE GONE
I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING 100% WHETHER HE IS TOWN OR NOT
TO ME HE SEEMS TOWN
SAME FOR MECHA
MECHA DOESN'T GIVE ME THE IMPRESSION HE'S GIVEN THE REST OF YOU
AND CORNELIOUS...
I STILL SUSPECT YOU NOT AS MUCH AS GAMMA BUT STILL
TELLING *ME* THAT *I'M* JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THINGS WHEN YOU SAY ONE GUY IS A SEALED DEAL AND THEN YOU VOTE FOR ANOTHER
YES OF COURSE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SUSPECT MORE THAN ONE PERSON
BUT SUCH STRONGLY WORDED OPINIONS FOR BOTH?
SCUMMIEST
SEALED DEAL

THIS JUST MAY BE SEMANTICS AND THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE MY VOTE BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ROOM TO CALL SOMEONE ON THAT KIND OF TALK


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 7:10 am 
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CORNELIUS wrote:
so i am allow to have feel certain of at least 2: mecha and gammy.


Highly bugged by this statement. How convenient it is for you to be 'certain' that the two people receiving votes today are mafia. Anyone else find this a very strange thing to have said?


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 9:11 am 
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J1N wrote:
CORNELIUS wrote:
so i am allow to have feel certain of at least 2: mecha and gammy.


Highly bugged by this statement. How convenient it is for you to be 'certain' that the two people receiving votes today are mafia. Anyone else find this a very strange thing to have said?


Not really I agree with him.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 10:35 am 
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Don't see how you can be 'certain' of anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 12:16 pm 
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J1N wrote:
Don't see how you can be 'certain' of anything.


Ohhhhhhh, the certain part is what you were highlighting (I missed the quote marks), yeah I'm not certain or anything but I do think they are likely mafia.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 1:11 pm 
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Well, I will explain as much as I can. I grouped together possible Mafia combinations, I didn't accuse anyone directly. I tried to bring a new thought process into this conversation. There were so many people in my grouping because I thought it would work the best in those combinations. I explained what I thought they would do in that group.

As for the votes on Mecha I think its a Mafia train and refuse to join in. It started with him saying he wanted a lynch but is that really a bad thing? You all just say stuff like hes the most suspicious but I don't see any hard evidence.

For me I will reveal my vote within the last 24 hours. Things will be ruined if I don't, (Depending on how things unfold)


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 2:02 pm 
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GAMMATHORN wrote:
As for the votes on Mecha I think its a Mafia train and refuse to join in. It started with him saying he wanted a lynch but is that really a bad thing? You all just say stuff like hes the most suspicious but I don't see any hard evidence.


it wasnt just him saying he wanted a lynch, it was the way he presented it, and the way he has acted since

nobody has any hard evidence; there is the chance we have a detective but if we do clearly he hasnt gotten any guilty results
being the most suspicious is what we have to go on
that being said

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For me I will reveal my vote within the last 24 hours. Things will be ruined if I don't, (Depending on how things unfold)


are you playing intentionally scummy
if the games setup wasnt set out beforehand by market id think you were a jester

witholding your vote, i understand
its potentially a mylo situation (though your groupings of 3 mafia lead me to believe you dont think it is mylo)

but calling attention to it and being cryptic like this? what is your play but to get more votes on yourself?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
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i think u guys r focus on word "certain" but u should focus on word "feel" instead.
idk to me when i say "feel certain" it much different than "am certain."
it the nuances of the english languages u know.

anyway now i need to read other posts.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Welcome to the Masquerade - Day 4
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i seriously considering change my voet from mecha to gammy.
every post gammy make make me more and more suspicious.


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