But kikori, yesterday you were SO certain I was mafia... now not even a mention?
You have to have SOME thoughts

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But Market. Do first grade math.
There are eight people alive.
Among them, I believe five are villagers. Pyro, Paidea, Aragorn, Myself, and Sparky.
That leaaves you, Sayaka, and Godders as... waiters? If so, I'll have a cold glass of mountain dew. Oh, wait, I know, it leaves you as kettles!

Use your head. You and Jaron haven't had one single disagreement all game, vote together on everything, and he's defending the most asinine roleclaim we've ever had in this forum. Of course I think you're a Mafia. And behaving like that isn't going to make you look any more innocent if defending yourself with that claim, assuming Pyro succeeds in his defense tonight.

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The fact that you talk about there being another night phase might as well be you pleading guilty, since the game would end if you were lynched as a villager.

Sayaka certainly isn't in the clear, but if anyone would have realized I was a doctor, it would have been him. He even pointed out my quotes, so I know he recognized them. If he was Mafia I would think he would tell them not to risk going after me for the victory kill. Nor do I think he would support a lynch on a mafia when Market was only one more vote from being killed.

I will say this much. The members I believe without a doubt to be villagers are Aragorn, Market, and Godders. When it comes to Sparky and Sayaka I'm on the fence and leaning towards Sparky, but he's seeming less and less mafia-like every post.

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I'd also like to mention that we still need 5 votes for a lynch, which means that at the current village:mafia ration, we need everyone involved in tonight's vote.

I respect that you haven't jumped on anyone, Godders, but at least for today, we're going to need you to vote if we're going to get a lynch at all. It's probably safe to assume that the mafia will refrain from voting for Kikori. It's too late in the game to try to pull a "I voted for X and he was mafia, so surely I'm villager." They know that with me still being alive that they run the risk of people being proven innocent during the night phase. They know they can't afford to lose Kikori today. It would drag the game out, and that's not a safe move for any of them with a doctor around.

I'd rather not spend another night phase just hoping for the best.

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You're probably right, im just going to re-read over everything to make sure about voting for Kikori, because 2 days ago, he was one of the people i certainly believed to be a villager, but with such similar patterns as Paidea, it is certainly a probability that Kikori is Mafia in my mind, because Paidea is one of the few people i believe to be an almost certain Mafia, obviously we have about 48 hours and this decision can't be made lightly, because if he was a villager we would almost certainly lose the game.

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Unfortunately, that's what you'll be doing.
After I'm lynched, seven people alive. However, it'll still be the night phase. Four villagers to choose from. Like I said, a literal 1d4 roll to try to save the game from ending with a six-man, 3:3 day six.

Pains me to do this, but Kikori. My living today is the same as Top's living on day three. There's too much misdirection allowed due to me being alive. Even if I live, the Mafia can just turn it around in a very successful lynch attempt against me anyway. A painful recreation of the Topsummoner scenario I tried to keep from happening.

Good luck, Pyro. Protect it right tonight, we can still win. Otherwise, game over.
(Or you guys can vote for Sayaka and we clear all this up here and now. But given nobody's voting for him, I'll take a 25% chance.)

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Trying to get people to panic and unvote?

Your entire post lacks any sense. You keep acting like you're not Mafia, but then you act like even if you die today the game will continue. The only way you can die and the game continue is IF YOU ARE MAFIA.

You're just voting for yourself so that we can't pick out your team just by looking at who didn't vote for you.

Before the night begins, let's look at our record here.

Pyro - Neil Patrick Harris
Paidea - No alibi.
Aragorn - Non-mafia roleclaim and a voting pattern that makes me suspect he's telling the truth.
Kikori - Future dead mafia
Sparky - No alibi. Questionably favorable voting pattern
Market - The person the mafia tried to have lynched in your place.
Sayaka - Has provided a list of his suspicions on players throughout the game. Risky behavior for a mafia member to make since his death would give away his team if he was mafia.
Godders - Doesn't want to be the final vote in anything. Likely trying to avoid looking like someone in the mafia by making sure he's not the vote that seals the lynch. Likewise he could have ended Market's life and won the game.

You, Paidea, and Sparky are the prime mafia suspects. The chance of Godders being lynched is slim since he's the one person the mafia could still try to turn things over on. Paidea is likely mafia so he won't be at risk tonight either.

That means the only sensible people for the mafia to go after tomorrow are Aragorn, Market, and Myself as we're all the least likely to be lynched. However, with a doctor about, it's not as easy to go after them since you know there's a good chance of me defending them tonight.

This puts Sayaka and Sparky at high risk tonight, but if one of them dies then it will be so overly apparent that the one that lived is mafia. So the mafia can't even safely lynch whichever of them is a villager.

This means that either you target one of the people you know I'll protect, or you give up one of your own to be an obvious lynch alongside Paidea.

With Kikori dead we'll be at 4 villagers 2 mafia.

The next day we'll be at either 3 villagers 2 mafia or 4 villagers 2 mafia.

With Paidea as a clear lynch we'll bring it down to either 3:1 or 4:1.

The next day is either 2:1, 3:1, or 4:1.

If at any point the mafia kills Sayaka, Sparky is mafia. If at any point the mafia kills Sparky, then Sayaka is mafia. We can use their lives as leverage and wait on lynching either of them last. After all, none of them are certain until the other dies, but if we get a big enough lead we could lynch them both and win. With the mafia being unable to target either of them, I'll only have to choose between myself, Aragorn, Market, and Godders. If I do the saves based on a random number generator, then you won't be able to deduce who I would save from that list and will be stuck with a 25% chance tonight of failing and proving someone to be innocent. It would be a shame if that turned out to be Godders. That would officially give him an alibi for not being a mafia and reduce the possible mafia members to being Sayaka, Sparky, and Paidea. Of which Paidea is already under very heavy suspicion for blending with Kikori far too well.

The village has already won this game. It's all a matter of going through the turns now.

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"ID 00001 - Sasori - Active
Confirmed through Night 4 actions to be both Villager and Doctor."

"ID 11100 - Kikori - Active
Despite getting Market Man6 to 4 of 5 votes yesterday, Kikori has decided to abandon this avenue and vote for Yuki Nagato instead. Such a flip is unexpected, especially when Market Man6 was so close to a lynch, and even SparkyAMS had more votes than I did. My previous hypotheses about Kikori being Mafia have not been swayed.

ACCESSING DIRECT QUOTATIONDetailing Market Man6's roleclaim as 'asinine' is a great disservice to both him and Yuki Nagato. You seem to have ignored my previous dictation on the multi-point justification of Market Man6's roleclaim.

ACCESSING DIRECT QUOTATIONThis can only be seen as another Mafia ploy. I would claim that a normal Villager would never respectfully kill themselves, but you have been shown on multiple occasions to ragequit and off yourself. With sincere deep regret for your decision, I will place the remaining required vote on your character. In the future, I do wish you the best in your ability to care about your well-being in the late-game stage."

Vote: Kikori

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I neglected to include a part of my previous post on my clipboard.

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Why can’t they see what I see? / Why can’t they hear the lies?
Maybe the fee’s too pricey for them to realize
Your disguise is slipping
I think you’re slipping

Vote: Kikori

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Well, as it goes i was going to actually place my first vote this entire game on Kikori, but it appears Sayaka has done it already, for what i can only imagine to be some last attempt at trying to claim Village alignment by saying he is the one to kill off Kikori.

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"And the day came to a quick close, with the empowered town reaching a swift decision about who to lynch."

"So we dragged Kikori to the gallows, at his own behest. He was lynched unceremoniously. As was the custom, we searched his dead body and found nothing. We went to his house, and again, found just a normal pad with no implications that he was evil or anyone other than a vanilla townie."

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Votes for Kikori, in order of casting: Pyro, Market, Aragorn, Kikori, Sayaka

Kikori - Vanilla townie lynched Day Five

Night five now begins. All relevant night actions may now be sent. The Night ends either when I receive all actions, or sometime Friday.

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And so our story draws to a close, as the town wakes up one last time. They find Aragorn missing. The group of six goes to house of the missing man, only to find his body riddles with bullet holes much like everyone else in the past. In horror, Pyro, MarketMan, and Sparky turn around and see Godders, Sayaka, and Paidea bearing down in them. Godders pulls out his signature Thompson submachine gun, and ends our tale bathed in blood.

Godders Mafia Godfather (no additional abilities) has won the game.
Sayaka Mafia Roleblocker has won the game.
Paidea Mafia escape artist has won the game.
Topsummoner Jester has won the game.

Aragorn Vengeful townie has been killed by the mafia N5.
Pyro3000 Doctor
MarketMan6 tree stump
SparkyAMS vanilla townie

Jaron was the mafia roleblocker, and although Pyro protected Aragorn, it doesn't matter as he was quite obviously roleblocked.

And anyone else NOT mentioned has lost the game.

My thoughts:

I have to issue an apology to Pyro for my post after N1. It wasn't fair to him or the town to make a post like that and I directly interfered with the game. I hope you all understand that I only wanted a fun, active game. I thank the mafia gods that everyone was in great sportsmanship and didn't really use the information to capacity, and Pyro became active so I obviously didn't need to replace him.

I also have to apologize to the collective town, this game was not properly balanced. The existence of a miller, jester, and the mafia having an escape artist was too much. A number of 13 called for either 4 mafia and a powered town, or 3 mafia and a watered down town. I watered the town down too much, not even a self-protecting doctor really evens things out. I didn't realize until after we had started that a mafia escape artist can be game breaking, especially later on. I also expected whoever got vengeful would engineer a plan to martyr themselves and almost certainly kill a mafioso. Why this role wasn't more discussed is beyond me.

The tree stump is real, and I won't apologize for adding it. The role description says that when lynched or killed, the stump cannot vote but can still post in the game. This would be a massive advantage for a player like Top, Kikori, Doc, or anyone really, but it did not come to fruition. It seemed like an underestimated role, but largely inconsequential. Not a power role. I lifted it right from the mafiascum wiki.

I initially thought Pyro was playing really selfishly, but he came on very strong in the end. For all the wrong reasons, but I was impressed with his style nonetheless. I had hoped that his save on himself would turn this whole horror show around, but he was still stuck on kikori. Kikori was perhaps the *most right*, though he and pyro (at some point) named 2/3 mafia, while naming eachother as the third member. It's all the mafia needed.

Topsummoner played a hell of a jester, but I quite expected him to be nightkilled and then lose, as well as a gain for the town. But, he did cause Jaron to roleblock him twice, so there's that.

The mafia played relatively well. How Jaron got away with essentially roleplaying the whole game is beyond me. But it certainly worked. Godders plays the doofus almost *too* well. And paidea was just plain inactive. Lurking or inactive, whichever. The town noticed far too late.

Jack's death was a major, major blow to the town. I thought it was still anyone's game, especially with Doc Henry dead. The town rarely recovers from the loss of the detective so early on. This was no exception.

I think that's all I have to say for now. It's probably of no consequence, but I plan on retiring from mafia for a long period of time, if not for good. I think the game should be given a rest. For me, perhaps I've always played a little intensely. It's the way I prefer to play, and it will not change, but I will not have my style put off others. The game has become, for me, too much about winning and who's good at it and who isn't. For me, winning and being RIGHT is the most fun, but that is not the case for everyone, and so I'm taking a leave of absence.

Lastly, here are everyone's roles, role PMs, and all actions I recorded.

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I investigated Dr Henry N1, and got a Mafia reading. Conveniently, he died the same night! I'd hate to be responsible for lynching a Miller.

I had planned to investigate Aragorn Ix N2, but I forgot to send the PM. I had it written out and everything, but I must have closed the tab before actually sending the PM. Conveniently, I died the same night! I'd hate to be a detective who doesn't do his job.

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Yuki looked at the blood on her hands in what was as close to horror as Yuki Nagato could possibly get. Was this it, then? Had her Master changed his mind? Playing for the Mafia and bringing about the destruction of reality by expanding the Closed Space was the least desirable outcome, and yet those were her orders. If it were possible, she would have killed herself right this moment, or even earlier. But she was restricted to her orders, no matter how horrible they would be. And they were truly horrible, she thought, looking around at the kilometers of desolate landscape she had hoped to prevent.

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CONTINUE PREVIOUS LYRICS WHICH WERE HEAVILY INVESTED IN FORESHADOWING

So…
Go ahead / Run away
Say it was Horrible
Spread the word / Tell a friend
Tell them the tale
Get a pic / Do a blog
Heroes are over with
Look at him / Not a word
Hammer meet nail
Then I win / Then I get
Everything I ever
All the cash / All the fame
And social change
Anarchy / That I run
It’s Dr. Horrible’s turn
You people all have to learn
This world is going to burn
Burn
Burn

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I'd like to clarify a few things and set the record straight.

1) Sorry Pyro, I didn't catch on that you were the Doctor. We were too invested in trying to find the inactive person Lander pointed out in Day 1. So perhaps while Lander's statement truly affected the course of the game, it may have saved your life if I would have otherwise been paying better attention.

2) Top, I roleblocked you Night 1 AND Night 2 (just in case Lander had royally screwed up or something). We all knew you were lying from your first claim. Paidea said you were probably a Jester, but I disagreed on account of Lander continually previously saying this was going to be a vanilla normal game. I thought the role wasn't included.

Given how much I completely despise playing as Mafia, I try to be as honest as possible in all of my posts. You're wrong, Kikori. Had we truly known Top was a Jester, we would have nightkilled him. I don't know why you fought for the belief that Mafia teams want to let someone else win, but whatever. Not all enemies of my enemies are friends.

3)I was planning to do this months ago regardless of what role I got. You can ask bluecoat for proof even. I figured my posts would probably make me die early, which was going to be great because I still think my Yuki Nagato death post was super awesome. It's a shame I never got to use it.

4)That's mean, dude. You really go too far sometimes.

5) Landerrrrrrrrrrr! This is the first game ever in which I actually wanted the Mafia to win because that means the storyteller in your stories was Mafia all along! You let me down with a lack of an outro! We killed Aragorn for that reason!

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So calling a roleclaim like that asinine is "too far"? Jesus, when did we go back to the days of catering to twelve year olds? Hell, me telling him to do first grade math was more mean than that. Just because it's the truth doesn't mean it's any less insane. An entirely brand spanking new role to the Village that nobody had heard of until you pulled it out of the Mafia wiki, appearing in a VANILLA (capitals verbatim) game? I stand by "asinine", and shake my head in confusion if that's mean to say.

I do have one curiosity. At the time Paidea started coming back into the game, it was defending me when all it took was one vote to hammer me and end the game in the same manner it was tonight. Instead he defended me, one vote away from victory... Why?

Still, a pity the game ended due to a roleblock. Successful target pick, no less! The perfect way to put the village in a position to win with the highest stakes ending possible! Regardless of the anticlimactic finish, though, glad to have gotten as into it as I did. Was quite fun.

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pretty much sums it up.

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When did we venture into the days where insults were acceptable at all? Lander's Mafia Guide Etiquette section says there shouldn't be any personal attacks, but that should've been a given to begin with.

No, not the 'asinine'. The 'most asinine roleclaim we've ever had in this forum'. We've played a lot of Mafia games in this forum, Kikori. A lot. I can think of a whole lot of roleclaims that were not very bright, to a greater degree than this one.

But congratulations Market, Kikori has decided that you are, far and away, the worst ever. Nevermind that Lander said we'd be seeing uncommon roles or that there was complete documentation that exactly matched what Market claimed.

Perhaps the same reason I could've hammered Market to end the game but didn't?

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Oh, I just now noticed. Sorry for the late response on this one.

I honestly see zero use for killing a Jester, when you're Mafia. He offers nothing to the Village except confusion, chaos, a desire to see himself dead, and a love of doing so in the most beneficial manner to the Mafia--taking up a Lynch that could be used on the Mafia. The logic "The Mafia will get any gain out of night killing the Jester" does not click in my mind because I don't see how the Jester hurts the Mafia whatsoever. Even if he shuts down and just idles through the rest of the game due to being found out, that still means it's harder for Villagers to lynch. So call me ignorant or just extreme, but I will need it explained why there's any use for Mafia killing him. Treat me like a first grader for this one, if you have to, since I'm probably thinking too hard on it.

The only reason I can guess at is you guys wanted to fish for the Doctor. Though Paidea wouldn't have been as suspected as you at that point, since you'd be voting against someone who followed you in your previous train that day, so you have a little less wiggle room than Paidea for that day's trains if you'd swapped.

That aside, thanks for twisting my words. Asinine roleclaim, an insult? Worst ever? Far from it. The role apparently exists, but at the time of calling it what I did, it was when Market was suspected as a Mafia. You see this from the outside in as the truth already, knowing that Market's not on your side. What do you think it looks like to a villager still putting the pieces together? "Oh, wait, that makes perfect sense, not a totally confusing copout at the last minute"? And of course there would be documentation. Remember, perspective. You were, for all intents and purposes, a Mafia alongside Market. You therefore... have zero capability to offer him the information?
That you see it as an insult against Market is simply astounding. Everything you're trying to defend him from, to me, is something I can only see offending a middle schooler or someone younger. When did trying to work out the probability of something in a game turn into attacking the person who had the idea? For every god damn game of Mafia I've played aggressively, this seems to become an issue. AND EVERY GOD DAMN TIME, THERE'S ZERO INTENT AGAINST THE PERSON. NONE. I'VE STATED SO NUMEROUS TIMES, INCLUDING GAMES YOU'VE BEEN IN--WHICH YOU CAN APPARENTLY REMEMBER WELL IF YOU'RE ABLE TO THINK OF OLD INSANE ROLECLAIMS. [/venting]

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