I'm here, somewhat. Just haven't been able to drum up much desire to post.

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I voted for him because he was WIFOMing the FOS with an OMGUS. A pretty obvious mafia tell when you consider the metagame.

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Welp.

Paidea's theory is really sound, except in that there is no reason, whatsoever, that Riptide wouldn't have claimed had he found Kikori to be mafia. It would have answered a lot of questions and ended a major debate in the game to free up room for others. You said it yourself, yet you somehow still think that Riptide had a guilty verdict on Kikori. I disagree.

Moreover, your accusation against me hinges solely on the fact that Kikori is mafia, which is faulty. The thing of it is, I defend people who I believe are townies. At the very least, I will refuse to vote for them. That's the end of it. I'll be first in line to admit that I'm wrong if he flips mafia, but I'll also probably be first in line to be lynched. It's the nature of the game.

Unless Kikori's response (if he gets to respond) is overly scummy, you likely won't see my vote settle on him.

That said, what's cracking, Ex Rex? Why sign up for a game if you have absolutely zero intention of posting? You're by far the least active person here. As the game wears on, what with the death of the detective, we can only rely on ourselves and inactivity can't be tolerated at this level.

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Penguinguy told me what a signshur was.

So just to confirm, Kikori is one vote away from being lynched without having the chance to respond yet?

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I believe you'll find as far as investigation targets go, I'm simply the best there is.

This time, however, I doubt it was me investigated. What detective is reckless enough to act so far out of character that his neck is exposed to cut without actually claiming and saying "I found a Mafia!"
Two options here. One, I'm the Miller. I seriously do not want to say this is it because it doesn't add up as much as number two.
Two, by the way, is that Rip investigated the most influential names instead. Namely, Sayaka. Why would this matter? Because Sayaka was "100%" against me. What would be the best covert move possible for a Detective who knows a power player is a villager? Follow the leader. I personally believe Riptide found Sayaka to be a villager, and trusted in Sayaka's judgements against me enough to join in on it to vote for me. Night one, self investigation for a sanity check. (This should be obvious: Frank wouldn't have told us the Detective would be insane if he added it, so this would be necessary). Night two, investigate the biggest noise maker.

And with that, he'd have joined Sayaka in an attempted train against me. That at least explains why he didn't come out and claim: not having a Mafia result + having a doctor to protect him + having a big name to help look for potential investigation targets by = low profile approach. And it's really the only way I can think to explain my own situation right now.

Dear Paidea. Which day have I led so far? The best I've been able to do is win over a single vote against Top. Yeah, I am playing poorly. The only gut feelings I have are against people who have been deemed not worthy targets by everyone else (Sayaka and Topsummoner) while also being, as stated above, almost assuredly investigated by the Detective (Sayaka). Henry's up there for reasons you summarized, Rex and Aragorn are quiet as normal (which is mildly scummy as normal but not enough to push a lynch on), my Lander senses aren't tingling, and I haven't played with you for so long that I can't justify much of an attack against you except what I pointed out here, which has not been enough to warrant anything more than... well, pointing it out. Your playstyle hasn't deviated from anything in my memory because I've got little to go on.
Then there's Godders, but he's being Godders. Synonym: Tahu.
SO YEAH. Unless you guys want to join me in a train against Top, I'm kind of fresh out of ideas.

Rex, man up. You've got notepad, drafts, and tabs on browsers for a reason.

Jack, I love you to death, but please at least freakin' clarify if you were just playing the odds or not. I find it kind of weird that someone would vote for a person out of dislike of no-lynch days, then hold back a vote on the same person when a lynch is all but secured. You have thoughts that need to be on the table, buddy.

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But you weren't reporting, you were justifying your actions, to tells us they were okay and totally not scum behavior. As a townie, like an unbiased scientist, you would simply answer questions directed at you, and search for the truth/the mafia, and spend no needless time defending yourself, because you should know you've done nothing wrong. A mafia, or a biased scientist, are trying to push a predetermined agenda, would answer questions not directed at them, and always justify their actions, in a attempt to swindle to public to do as they so desire, and hide their guilt. This is not the only incident you have exhibited these traits. You tried to persuade Topsummoner D2 when Sayaka was nearing lynched. You defended yourself against Sayaka's baseless accusations, not with logic, but by finding your own faults, and defending them.

You have said as much, and I have brought it up several times, and Godder's has repeated his statements of the obvious.



So, you're conscious of your own style of simply not caring when Mafia, and since you've put in so much effort this game (albeit failed effort, going by vote-count) you must be Town. I have to agree with others, you are getting increasingly desperate, as this twisted logic should show. It seems that Sayaka has succeed in the very thing he said he was not trying to achieve, in making us consider you and Godders and Henry. I think there may yet be weight behind his blind assertions.


Entirely likely, but I don't know how this in anyway clears you. All it does is lend credence to Sayaka's claims and discredit yours, I find it unlikely that you two are both villagers in an unfortunate disagreement. And the idea that Riptide was softclaiming also puts you as mafia, so in both cases you are most likely mafia. All you've done is distract us and try to change the topic. The Detective, who is now dead, agreed with Sayaka, the one person you pegged as scum, and went after you. He likely had a report on one of you, and both pan out as you being scum. I doubt you are the miller, your actions imply the opposite. You've been defensive, attempted to manipulate others, and now are simply flailing.

Kikori

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DAY FOUR ENDS

Motivated by the loss of the detective the village seemed to finally become more of a cohesive unit. From the rooftops they clamored for Kikori to answer for his crime at the gallows. "No amount of pleading will save you now Kikori!" and with that the deed was done. One always wonders why Villages resort to mob mentality before investigating the homestead of their victims. Such questions I guess are left unasked...

Right in open view of Kikori's apartment was a nice and bloody chainsaw. No doubt used to make sure Market Man6 didn't survive a second time around. Everyone agreed that Kikori had to be Mafia.

NIGHT FOUR GO.

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NIGHT FOUR ENDS

Fresh from a good night sleep and success the previous day the village awoke with gusto. All except for one that is... It appears poor Topsummoner didn't quite make it through the night. The mafia made it clear they were out for some revenge. The ball is back in the Villages court.

Topsummoner, Villager, Dead.

DAY FIVE IS A GO

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Thanks Lou for the help with the avatar.

Ah, there's now a player list on the first post. 9 players left, 5 votes to lynch.

Frank ended Day 4 right as I got home from work, so please bear with me as I add my thoughts on what happened:

Pretty well written and I agree with a bunch of it, but by no means does it preclude you from being Mafia. You haven't really done much to dissuade anyone either.
I noticed this too when he said it, but I didn't bring it up because I didn't feel it was substantial enough. (And it might not be, but it's good to know I wasn't the only one who thought it was odd.)
You guys are both kinda dumb to speak in such ultimatums. If I find a Mafia in the first two days as Detective I won't announce it. Willingly killing Mafia members too early makes you lose everything they would have posted had you kept them alive just a little bit longer, often when they would incriminate others by accident. Saying "Kikori is Mafia" early means Kik could just shut up and you wouldn't gain anything. Saying "I'm the Detective but I'm waiting to announce my results so please protect me" is just going to get you killed, as he probably saw with me on Day 2. I'm fairly certain he would have claimed at the beginning of Day 4 if he'd gotten the chance.
You should've not wanted to say it because it's really, really stupid to say it. Why would you say "Hey guys maybe I'm the Miller"? Because you want to plant the thought in peoples' heads that maybe you were really a Villager and none of the stuff you did that points to other Mafia should be considered as evidence once you're dead. Why would you do that? Villagers don't do that! A Villager would know he's a Villager and wouldn't have any reason to tell people "hey btw if I die and I flip Mafia don't look deeply into what I said". Your whole post became nonsense the moment you said that.
What IS it with all you guys and wasting your Night 1 with self-investigation? Frank clearly said what the roles would be in this game, and Insane Detective was not among them. What's more, in the Global Mafia game last October, Frank portrayed a Night 1 self-investigation to be a waste of time. If Riptide really self-investigated Night 1 I'd be rather disappointed, honestly.

Well I guess that's pretty much all that happened on Day 4 that I wanted to dig into.

My vote today is going to Landerpurex. Paidea raised a couple of good points but the reason reason I'm voting for him is what he said on Day 3:W...what? I thought this was silly when I read it but it seems even sillier when I re-read it. Here. Let me paraphrase what you just typed.

"I agree with others that Sayaka is being consistent, and that almost completely means he's not Mafia. So while I don't entirely think he's Mafia anymore, I think voting for Kikori is a waste of time, so until Sayaka decides to do something that he already said he won't (and I expect he won't) do (aka 'until forever') I'm going to vote for him."

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You gave me some village-y vibes on Day 2 but on Day 3 you just kind of completely blew it, man.

Landerpurex

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You, since the original accusation that started this, have seemingly validated Sayaka's accusation. The argument centered around Sayaka, defending himself from mostly (but not limited to) Kikori, Lander, you, and myself. On a initially related tangent, Topsummoner and Kikori were arguing. During this time, both you and Lander defended Kikori. Yesterday, you steadfastly held to your guns, and then at the end of your post implied that Kikori would be lynched anyway, and used the Riptide soft-claim idea to validate your vote. You continued to distance yourself from the argument where you were on the side of a mafia member, attacking Sayaka. You also had defended Kikori, yet seemingly excluded that detail.

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Are you going to post anything constructive or insightful today?

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Dumb to speak in such ultimatums? What's dumb is the withholding of informaton *coughcough*, but moreover, what's dumb is a detective withholding a guilty verdict. There is absolutely zero reason to withhold it, regardless of how early it is. Why? BECAUSE THERE IS A CONFIRMED DOCTOR IN THE GAME. A detective with a doctor glued to him is like the ultimate champion of the town. It changes the whole dynamic. We've seen this time and again in games around here. What's more, is if he had gotten a guilty verdict on N2, he could have also provided us with the name of an innocent villager in the process (his presumed target N1). And then further innocents/guilties until the mafia got lucky and found the doctor; or he had to claim due to danger of being lynched. Either way, it is always more beneficial for the detective to claim if he gets a guilty verdict right away, because the alternative is exactly what happened. He dies before we get any information.





First of all, you're putting words in my mouth and generally misunderstanding what I was saying. Yes, you were (are) exhibiting town behavior, and are (were?) being consistent, but this does not automatically mean you are town. For me, your withholding of information was still more scummy that the town behavior we were seeing. Now, given Kikori's alignment, we have no real choice but to believe you as a townie. Surely no one would go to such lengths to bus one of their own kind.

That said, Ex Rex, post something of substance or die.

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Landerpurex

Penguin, I ask you directly if you are prepared to vote Lander today. While I agree Dr Henry is mafia, the signs of Lander being mafia should be pretty glaring to any townie. He openly and outright defended kikori with weak argument and has not been playing like townie-Lander, who assesses posts with much more neutrality.

The reason I'm calling you out is because we cannot afford to have the votes split with the number of active townies rapidly decreasing (see: mafia killing Topsummoner). I am probably next, or you if you're a townie. If Ex Rex is a townie, that's one vote we're gonna be extremely lucky gonna get. So it comes down to getting votes from Dr Henry, Aragorn, Godders, and Jackstick. I wouldn't count on Dr Henry to vote Lander because I'm pretty sure he's mafia too. Aragorn isn't very active regardless of his role. I think Godders is town at the moment, but he's doing an uncannily good job of blending in. Jackstick is unpredictable and my best bet is that he's a townie who doesn't care very much and will check the topic and stay true to his word about hating days that don't go with a lynch and vote to hammer.

After Lander and Henry I'm pretty sure the last mafia is between Aragorn, Godders, and yourself. I'm giving Sayaka and Jackstick the benefit of the doubt, for now.


Thank you but that was not, and is never the intent of my posts. As a townie I'm not trying to show everyone else I'm town, I'm trying to root out the mafia through segmented cooperation. Your're planting a tiny seed here that bumps up my feeling you're behind a master scheme from 1% to 10%.

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Haha! Fair enough; I can relate because I haven't tried to prove myself either. My main point was that if you were Mafia, that would have been the intent of your post, even if only subtly. (For me though this reply quells some of those concerns.)

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Oh, I meant to reply to this too I guess:
I disagree, I think it's easy to understand what you said:

Quote --> Paraphrased
"but as others have pointed out, he is being consistent." --> "People have said that Sayaka is being consistent, and I agree"
"Consistency is probably the least likely trait for a mafioso to have." --> "If you're consistent then you're the least likely person to be Mafia"
"So although I may not be as suspicious of him as I was," --> "So while I don't entirely think he's Mafia anymore"
"I still think he is on a fool's errand" --> "Lynching Kikori is dumb and you should feel dumb for doing it"
"and until he reveals his reasoning (which likely won't be happening)" --> "Until Event X happens (which will never occur)"
"I will treat him as a mafioso for reasons already stated." --> "I'm voting for him even though I implied I think he's probably not Mafia."

I'm exhibiting my own behavior. If you think it's town then that's your call but I don't think I've made any attempt to call it as such. Also you're the one that said consistency is the least likely trait of a Mafioso, not me.
Undoubtably.
Kikori's alignment was pretty dang obvious from the start. This sentence has no substance. You're just using it as an excuse to stop your "I am voting for Sayaka forever'n'ever" claim you made on Day 3 and switch to Ex Rex instead. (Who I agree is not doing the town any favors here but that is besides the point.)

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I too agree with Paidea about Lander.

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