Courtroom Mafia: GAME OVER.... sorry.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** August 22nd, 2012, 8:28 pm

1. PenguinGuy - President, Killed Night Two
2. Sighence - Civilian, Lynched Trial Three
3. Kikori
4. Godders - Framer, Lynched Trial Two
5. Scar - Prosecutor, Killed Night One
6. Ex Rex
7. Aragorn Ix - Defense Attorney, Killed Night Zero
8. Dr Henry
9. Landerpurex

A town is restless.

For years, a dangerous mafia has ruled the city. Thoroughly bribed, the justice system has thus far turned a blind eye to the mafia's misdeeds. But the citizens of the town had enough, and marched on city hall. The President had no choice but to intervene, and called the legal system to action.

Months pass. Nearly all the mafia has been put behind bars... but their remnants have gotten to the judge responsible for these incarcerations.

Topsummoner - Judge, Killed in cold blood.

The townspeople are furious. Jail is not enough to stop these scoundrels. It is known: tomorrow, the village will find the mafia responsible for this deed, and death will be their fate.

A new Judge will be elected. He shall become death.

NIGHT ZERO BEGINS. NIGHT ROLES, PM ME.

The night ends when all PMs are sent in, or at 10:30 AM EST on Friday, September 24th.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** August 22nd, 2012, 8:44 pm

Reposted game information for your convenience. Also assume normal rules apply, like the 'no talking to other players outside the thread'. You're all vets at this point.

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Topsummoner wrote:

With Mountain Village ending soon, I'd like to get this sign-up going a little early.

Courtroom Mafia is my newest variant. This time, the major difference isn't in roles or win conditions... it's the very gameplay of Mafia.

Those of you familiar with the variant Kingmaker will find this first mechanic change familiar: there is a village power role called the President.

President PM wrote:

During the night phase, chooses a player to be the Judge during the next Trial phase. When the President dies, a random Civilian becomes the new President. If no Civilians remain, then a random power role. The President may not make himself the Judge. The President may not choose a player who was the Judge in the previous Trial phase. The President must also include a backup Judge choice in case his first pick dies.

There are three phases:

Night (36 Hours)
Nomination (48 Hours)
Trial (48+ Hours)

The night phase occurs as normal. Power roles send in their night actions. The President chooses a Judge.

At the beginning of the nomination phase, the chosen Judge is revealed. Players then must vote on who they want to put on trial. Each player only has one vote in this phase, and cannot change it once it is placed! (Format: Nominate: Player) At the end of the phase, the player with the most votes is put on trial. A majority does not have to be reached, but if it is, the phase will end early. If there is a vote tie, the Trial phase will be skipped.

During the trial phase, the first voter for the nominated player becomes the Plantiff. The nominated player becomes the Defendant. The Defendant may choose to elect a Lawyer, but may also opt out. (Elect: Player) During this phase, only the Plantiff, Defendant, Lawyer, and Judge may speak. Other players may show their opinion by voting Guilty or Not Guilty. This vote can be changed and has no bearing on whether the Defendant is lynched. As soon as the Plantiff, Defendant, and Lawyer have all posted at least once, the 48-hour deadline begins. The Judge must reach a verdict of Guilty or Not Guilty in this time. (Format: Verdict: (Not) Guilty) If he fails to do so, he will be lynched himself. If he chooses Guilty, the Defendant is lynched. If he chooses Not Guilty, the Trial phase ends with no lynch.

Additional notes on the pseudo-roles of the Trial phase:
Judge – Chosen during the Night Phase by the President. Identity is announced at the beginning of the Nomination Phase. Immune to nomination. May speak during the Trial phase. After the Defendant, Plaintiff, and Lawyer (if any) have posted, may decide the fate of the Defendant: Guilty (Lynched), or Not Guilty (No lynch). It should be noted that both village and mafia can become the Judge.

Defendant – Nominated during the Nomination Phase. May choose a Lawyer at the start of the Trial phase. May speak during the Trial phase.

Plaintiff – First voter against the Defendant during the Nomination Phase. May speak during the Trial phase.

Lawyer – Chosen by the Defendant at the start of the Trial phase. May speak during the Trial phase.

Jury – All players not filling above roles. May not speak during the Trial phase. May vote 'Guilty' or 'Not Guilty' to show their opinion.

There are additional 'real' power roles involved with the game, but what they are will be a secret.

Feel free to ask questions. Sign-up now... looking for 9 players, but if there are more, I will adjust the setup to compensate.

1. PenguinGuy
2. Sighence
3. Kikori
4. Godders
5. Scar
6. Ex Rex
7. Aragorn Ix
8. Dr Henry
9. Landerpurex

Topsummoner · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 10:08 am

The town gathers at the courthouse, ready to begin their discussion on the mafia. But there is blood trickling down the steps of the courthouse. Eyes are drawn upward, to see the brutally shot Aragorn hanging from the front of the building. In his blood, the words 'NO JUSTICE' are written.

Aragorn Ix - Defense Attorney, Killed Night Zero

Horrified, the townspeople continue into the courthouse. A message from the President sits on the Judge's podium. It is known: Kikori will be the day's judge.

Nomination Phase 1 begins.
You have until 12:10 PM EST on Sunday, August 26th.
Be sure to brush up on the rules of the phase before anything! See the previous post.

Kikori · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 10:21 am

Well, this is a partially confusing night zero result.
Defense Attorney =/= elected Lawyer? If we're allowed to choose our own Lawyers based on just who we want to have as a Lawyer, then the specialness of Aragorn's role is lost on me 'til the game ends.

And since I was never elected King in the Kingmaker game to the best of my memory, arbitrary: I promise to hear the opinions of all sides before jumping to conclusions about whether or not to kill an--Lynch Landerpurex[/b]!

(Remember, one vote for the WHOLE DAMN PHASE, so let's not waste our votes on our usual shenanigans.)

Dr Henry · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 11:06 am

Kikori wrote:

Well, this is a partially confusing night zero result.
Defense Attorney =/= elected Lawyer? If we're allowed to choose our own Lawyers based on just who we want to have as a Lawyer, then the specialness of Aragorn's role is lost on me 'til the game ends.

And since I was never elected King in the Kingmaker game to the best of my memory, arbitrary: I promise to hear the opinions of all sides before jumping to conclusions about whether or not to kill an--Lynch Landerpurex[/b]!

(Remember, one vote for the WHOLE DAMN PHASE, so let's not waste our votes on our usual shenanigans.)

That doesn't count as a vote does it? It has to be nominate, not lynch I think... Just checking, because obviously if you were the first voter, you become plaintiff AND judge so it would only be you and Lander talking in the next phase with you having the sole choice - power hungry much?

Topsummoner · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 11:09 am

Note: A Judge cannot be a plaintiff at the same time. If the Judge was the first voter, the second voter would become Plaintiff. Sorry, should have cleared that up.

Ex Rex · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 12:24 pm

Is there something I'm missing, or did Kikori just claim President?

Kikori · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 12:37 pm

Jeez, you guys are slow.

Our usual shenanigans have to do with voting for each other at total random for a short time. Well, a vote now would end up screwing things up because we wouldn't get to change it. So I Italicized my joke instead of bolding and, because I'm apparently the judge today, I have the power to see whoever's on trial dead. Hence, joke kill of Lander in itaclics. :facepalm:

Rex wrote:

Is there something I'm missing, or did Kikori just claim President?

Topsummoner wrote:

The President may not make himself the Judge.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 7:20 pm

There seem to be a *lot* of facets to this variant, namely in the involvement of the defense lawyer.

It's Day One, and contrary to normal games, we HAVE to put someone on trial here. Soooo...yeah. Arbitrary waiting for everyone to check in.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 7:22 pm

OH and on a related note, after this game, I would like to request that no one start another game, as we are going to have a global mafia game sponsored by the RVET and hosted by Jaron. :awesome:

PenguinGuy · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 11:12 pm

Aragorn's role seems weird, since Top said the defendant can pick a lawyer, which in real life would be called a defense attorney. So Aragorn's role might have given him extra power when chosen as lawyer or something to that effect. However, we're not gonna find out until the game's over.

The only information we have to roll on is Aragorn's being killed and Kikori's being picked. Which means metagame time. Nobody I know of has a beef with Aragorn, but anyone who does would be a good place to start for today. As for Kikori, I do not know if there is any gain for the town or the mafia in deducing the President, since when he dies the role is just given to someone else.

Sighence · **Posted:** August 24th, 2012, 11:36 pm

If I read the rules right, the Judge can also be elected as the defendant's lawyer.

Conflict of interest time GO.

Kikori · **Posted:** August 25th, 2012, 1:28 am

PenguinGuy wrote:

Aragorn's role seems weird, since Top said the defendant can pick a lawyer, which in real life would be called a defense attorney. So Aragorn's role might have given him extra power when chosen as lawyer or something to that effect. However, we're not gonna find out until the game's over.

The only information we have to roll on is Aragorn's being killed and Kikori's being picked. Which means metagame time. Nobody I know of has a beef with Aragorn, but anyone who does would be a good place to start for today. As for Kikori, I do not know if there is any gain for the town or the mafia in deducing the President, since when he dies the role is just given to someone else.

There is gain for the Mafia, sort of. The Presidency role goes to non-power role villagers until it makes its way to the power roles. If we have any standard detectives or doctors, they and the Mafia would be the last potential presidents. So if pres after pres dies, we'd be left with naught but power roles. Most likely at that point it'd be a LYLO situation.
And there are too many directions to take with it. It's day one. We've got effectively no suspicion to go by, so I can only assume it was a random picking. If it has anything to do with trying to figure out what power players will act how under what psuedo-power roles, there are enough power players around that it'd still have been picked out of a hat.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** August 25th, 2012, 4:33 am

Kikori wrote:

PenguinGuy wrote:

Aragorn's role seems weird, since Top said the defendant can pick a lawyer, which in real life would be called a defense attorney. So Aragorn's role might have given him extra power when chosen as lawyer or something to that effect. However, we're not gonna find out until the game's over.

The only information we have to roll on is Aragorn's being killed and Kikori's being picked. Which means metagame time. Nobody I know of has a beef with Aragorn, but anyone who does would be a good place to start for today. As for Kikori, I do not know if there is any gain for the town or the mafia in deducing the President, since when he dies the role is just given to someone else.

There is gain for the Mafia, sort of. The Presidency role goes to non-power role villagers until it makes its way to the power roles. If we have any standard detectives or doctors, they and the Mafia would be the last potential presidents. So if pres after pres dies, we'd be left with naught but power roles. Most likely at that point it'd be a LYLO situation.
And there are too many directions to take with it. It's day one. We've got effectively no suspicion to go by, so I can only assume it was a random picking. If it has anything to do with trying to figure out what power players will act how under what psuedo-power roles, there are enough power players around that it'd still have been picked out of a hat.

In my eyes, they felt like they had a free kill to start the game before anything happened, and didn't want to risk going for a veteran in case they were being protected by the doctor.

Now I'm going to get the ball rolling, go with my gut and nominate someone who I feel is clever enough to think like that, and also clever enough NOT to choose Godders which would get suspicion on him for that exact reason.

Nominate: Scar

Also, very glad that there is no joking around on Day One for once, Tahu would be happy

Dr Henry · **Posted:** August 25th, 2012, 4:37 am

Also, whoever chose Kikori as Judge better have thought it through... It means he definitely is not the president, which means that the odds of him being a power role OR mafia increase higher than anyone else. But we cannot nominate him today, but FoS Kikori for tomorrow, mostly dependent on who we hit today and tonight

Godders · **Posted:** August 25th, 2012, 5:37 am

Nominate : Scar

This isnt a train, this is because he gets me killed Day One everytime he is Mafia and this is the only way i can get back at him, also he is Scar.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** August 25th, 2012, 6:43 am

Sighence wrote:

If I read the rules right, the Judge can also be elected as the defendant's lawyer.

Conflict of interest time GO.

Wow, there are a lot of loopholes I missed.

The idea is that each of the pseudo-roles of the Trial phase can only be held by one person at a time, and each person can only hold one of these roles.

Kikori · **Posted:** August 25th, 2012, 10:05 am

Dr Henry wrote:

In my eyes, they felt like they had a free kill to start the game before anything happened, and didn't want to risk going for a veteran in case they were being protected by the doctor.

Now I'm going to get the ball rolling, go with my gut and nominate someone who I feel is clever enough to think like that, and also clever enough NOT to choose Godders which would get suspicion on him for that exact reason.

While we disagree about Aragorn being a vet or not, the logic makes sense.
He's also known for being on the quiet side, so we'll see soon enough if there's a pattern or not.

Scar · **Posted:** August 25th, 2012, 12:11 pm

Sorry for taking so long to get in here, I'm in the process of moving to an apartment this weekend. I'll try to be here as much as possible obviously.

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Anyway, I'm flattered at being nominated by two people above everyone else.

There obviously isn't much to go on here, we have the usual active v. inactive people problem already and it's only day 1. So, because anything I can find so far in the thread would be an insane stretch to nominate someone for I am content with going to trial.

Also, I am the Prosecutor. I am not a detective role, but I do work with one. Each night they investigate someone and I am sent the results. Night 0 they targeted Kikori and he is Mafia.

Obviously with me being nominated I would have to go to trial, and with the Judge being Mafia I was almost guaranteed to die. Now I need the help of the Town to nominate someone else with two votes so I don't to go to trial with a Mafia Judge. If that can't be done than for the love of all that is holy to you Nominate him tomorrow and kill him.

Scar · **Posted:** August 25th, 2012, 12:13 pm

Also obviously only nominate someone twice so neither of us has to go to trial, because unless we choose another Mafia player we would only be sending someone to their death.

Courtroom Mafia: GAME OVER.... sorry.

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