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PostPosted: January 27th, 2005, 3:12 pm 
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Amen to that :)

I have also noticed flamming eachother (partuculairly in teh debate forum) I think we should give people like 3 strikes and your out. You get caught flamming 3 times and you get a bann.

The legends will also have to do better reporting flamming to the blue card forum.

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PostPosted: January 27th, 2005, 3:13 pm 
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yes, im afraid that im partially responsible for that, the disaster between rune813 and myself (when i first posted, i didnt even know he was a vilager) got way out of hand and i regreted it soon after i posted it (but too late to delete)

anyway, i will learn to cool down when i am that mad and try to conduct myself the way i usually am (for those who know what im talking about, i am not the way i appeared yesterday)
i hope to see this as the first step to a better runevillage, and i salute you, hiker, for saying it, and making me think about all the things i may have said that could be considered flaming or spam.

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Wow hiker that was really very heart felt. I will try my best to be a better villager, also anyone who reads this post why not try to continue these values while you live out your lives and on rs.


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PostPosted: January 27th, 2005, 3:45 pm 
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hiker not to be rude and all but runevillage will never be the way it was before

we have recieved many rude people in the 2 years i have been here and there is no stopping to the people comming with rude things to say about another person

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Great speech Hiker, and i agree to it totally.. When i first joining there was alot of great debates, over anything, now it has gotten a little crazy.

Can't wait for the village to return back to how it was :)

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hiker....let me take this time to say...thank you...

When I joined, the village was exactly as you described, no more than 600 members and everyone was respectful, the atmosphere so kind and peaceful, it was such a wonderful place, everyone was like a big family. As the village grew, the atmosphere started to fade, and the village spirit was slowly dying. I was so concerned right now that it would be lost forever, but I am soo glad that things are being reinforced, to recreate that haven of kindness and respect we once had.

I for one will be fully supporting this and will do my part to help make it happen. Thanks again hiker, and thanks to the villagers, let's get back in to the true Runevillage spirit... :)

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PostPosted: January 27th, 2005, 4:14 pm 
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I've only been here for about a year...But that is one awsome speech hiker. IF the village can return to that...We'd have less mean people!


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nicely said, ive been here for a long time, but i havnt been very active, i remember when things were good, but not knowing everyone made a difference. I hope everything gets going how it should again, if you want to go make fun of someone, do it in person. Thats my motto :)

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thank you hiker, :D! i hope every1 takes this brilliant speech to heart!

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I dont think the village is different, It has just got more flamers who spread out to more topics - So it is worse in a way, but it would be good if we all just gave each other a big huggles

Im staying in Literacy Society, so I cant get much flaming in there :D

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My first thought is that those of us who value respect so highly are going to be the ones reading this, and most of those that don't... Won't. So I'm grateful for the 'heads-up' that something is being done, but I don't think this topic will have much direct impact on the problem or problems themselves.

That said, I definitely look foreward to improved interpretation and enforcement of the rules, and possibly some revisions as well. We may be a run-of-the-mill Runescape fansite at the first casual glance, but if we all work at it we are and can be so much more.

Villagers - Don't leave this up to the Moderaters and Administration! If you see a problem REPORT IT! If you can't find a Moderator, PM a Legend, and we'll get it taken care of! As the saying goes, 'the chain is only as strong as its weakest link', meaning we can only be as good as our worst Villager. Don't be that person.

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totally agree

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wow hiker that was deep
well when i first looked at the village before joining i remember it being like this. It was like this wen i joined a little too but not any more
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u r so right hiker!!!!!!!!! all we need is a little respect

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When you said you would talk to the administrators, you left out the mods! Are we just regular users???? No... Of course not... :D

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i aggree i havnt been the most active persion in my time but i rember when i 1st joined how nice every one was now you can liek never make a topic without some one puting your statement/ quesrtion down...

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well put hiker..i back you up 100% bro..and i hope we can get the village to the lovely place that u wish for

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Guess you guys didn't see this; it was kinda meant for a reply :)

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This is a good idea and all, but it sounds like you're willing to stake RV's reputation of being the best known fansite for one of being an extremely small one that happens not to flame anyone. I agreee, it's one heck of a lot worse than it used to be. But sruely there are other methods. Updating the chat filter, for example. "carp"(letters switched around a tiny bit) is still valid. Most things said when flaming are still valid. Personnally, I'd ask Jagex how they did their filter, and implement that here on RV. Also, this might not work at all. Human psychology dictates that there WILL be some major disagreement among even 2 sometimes(if you don't believe me, take one look at the divorce rate.) These feelings of hate are VERY rarely ever treated/realigned. I did it, but it took me 2 years of hardly ever seeing that person. Even then, I still remember what he did; I just don't have ill-will towards him anymore. In a case of even 500, there's gonna be some seed of hate somewhere. In the case of 45,000... well, we already know that one. I thnk the reeal way to approach this is by putting in the terms of agreement for ALL new members that flaming shall be kept to a minimum. I say new members because they are our primary problem. I've seen 200-post people, already they have 1 or 2 warnings. I see 1.5k post people, they hardly have EVER gotten a warning. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see RV back the way it was when I first joined, at the very least,(October 30, 2003), but it'd be still nicer if we could do it without banning oursleves into obliveon. It would be the supreme achievement, however, if we could make ourselves the #1 RS fansite FIRST, then cracking down. Not only does this permanently establish RV's reputation, this is good PR for when we cracxk down; most will say that this is good for those at the top to do.

Anyway, I'm done with my little rant. But please, consider what I've said.


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Well, I'm glad this is what's going to be happening... .Curt Kobain seemed to have a grudge on everyone... Especially me, and all I did was give my opinion in the debate forum....

But anyway... Good speech... You should be a diplomat.. :wink:
I'm sure this will help a ton... Someone asked earlier (not sure who) why we should sacrifice fame for kindness... I think we should.. It's useless to rule over a planet if no one will obey you...

As for not worrying about banning people... Does that mean no warnings, even if you do something unknowingly...? I'm sure someone new might do something (I even do, sometimes) that they didn't know was against the rules.

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Well, I'm glad this is what's going to be happening... .Curt Kobain seemed to have a grudge on everyone... Especially me, and all I did was give my opinion in the debate forum....

But anyway... Good speech... You should be a diplomat.. :wink:


uneeded figer pointing! FLAME FLAME!! *get's the hannor's nose hose*

umm...this is uneeded spam... :oops:

To make it slighty more relevent, Monk, post lower count people already get warnings because they tend not to read the rules. Or are long time members who've accumulated warnings to reset count. And most of the time, 1500+ members have been here long enough to get their warnings removed...just a thought.

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