The Village Values

Hindenburg · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 6:25 pm

Ahhh, back with hedgehog and slappy. The good old days.

Zilla · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 6:26 pm

Thank you Hiker that was an excellent speech. I remember how nice everyone was when I first joined and I wish we could get back to that. I think respect is key. Like you said, it is possible to respect even your enemies and the people you disagree with.

GCSE wrote:

Make their (mods) job easier by not behaving like an idiot & it benefits everyone

Exactly. Sure the mods should live by a higher standard but don't wait around for mods to do something, everyone should start with themselves.

Silverarrow2 · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 6:31 pm

Ya

I want things back the way they were when I first started so bad...

It was great...then I took a break and came back to this

Thank you sooo much Hiker

Jbo88rams · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 6:38 pm

This needed to be said.....

I agree with the part about banning so many people that we get back to 500........

When I first joined about 22 months ago, the village had MUCH more of a "village" feeling. There was hardly any flaming or disrespect. A banning was pretty rare too. Now it happens everyday.

I hope there is actually a big change.

Bigfoot227 · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 6:53 pm

Nice Hiker good job.

Magic Falcon · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 6:55 pm

I hear you. I will make sure I watch the way I chat on the forums and be more mature.

Zone Ant · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 7:02 pm

lol, nice story, long and titey.

:wink:

Thething0123 · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 7:06 pm

nie speech hiker

i really hate all those people who seek the fun of flaming other runescapers for no reason
well i hope this gets re-inforced,

i barely post bu thave been in the village for a while now

lilsmurf2008 · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 7:14 pm

Monk Basher wrote:

Guess you guys didn't see this; it was kinda meant for a reply

Monk Basher wrote:

This is a good idea and all, but it sounds like you're willing to stake RV's reputation of being the best known fansite for one of being an extremely small one that happens not to flame anyone. I agreee, it's one heck of a lot worse than it used to be. But sruely there are other methods. Updating the chat filter, for example. "carp"(letters switched around a tiny bit) is still valid. Most things said when flaming are still valid. Personnally, I'd ask Jagex how they did their filter, and implement that here on RV. Also, this might not work at all. Human psychology dictates that there WILL be some major disagreement among even 2 sometimes(if you don't believe me, take one look at the divorce rate.) These feelings of hate are VERY rarely ever treated/realigned. I did it, but it took me 2 years of hardly ever seeing that person. Even then, I still remember what he did; I just don't have ill-will towards him anymore. In a case of even 500, there's gonna be some seed of hate somewhere. In the case of 45,000... well, we already know that one. I thnk the reeal way to approach this is by putting in the terms of agreement for ALL new members that flaming shall be kept to a minimum. I say new members because they are our primary problem. I've seen 200-post people, already they have 1 or 2 warnings. I see 1.5k post people, they hardly have EVER gotten a warning. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see RV back the way it was when I first joined, at the very least,(October 30, 2003), but it'd be still nicer if we could do it without banning oursleves into obliveon. It would be the supreme achievement, however, if we could make ourselves the #1 RS fansite FIRST, then cracking down. Not only does this permanently establish RV's reputation, this is good PR for when we cracxk down; most will say that this is good for those at the top to do.

Anyway, I'm done with my little rant. But please, consider what I've said.

But if we want to get #1 best fansite then we need to crack down first and make the village a friendlier place...not a flame hole then crack down when we have even more flamers to try and control... by crackin down first I think it would eleminate more flamers joining in the first place...

Erica · January 23, 2008, 4:35

I total agree its ridicualis that people insult eachother. this is rude and has no reason! there should be a little more restricted rules on people flaming and spaming but if that meens loosing people then so be it.

Runevillage is know for being one of the best runescape tips sites on the web.

i think we should keep it that away and have the forums be clean and full of fun. that is the rules and that is how you should live.

*sorry if i spelled anything wrong!

Keaz · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 8:42 pm

Mmmm..I argree. But some Mods need too know that because there mods, the cant abuse people or put them down.

doomtomb · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 10:47 pm

As I may not agree with your idea of protecting the haven of RV by banishing those in it I still relisize what you mean.

I remember the good old RV days. I think it really went down hill after RV summer flame war 2004. Sheesh that was bad.

I just remember paying a good visit to RV where all the rules would be followed.

dragon_mage_333 · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 10:53 pm

i agree 100% you are very wise

Baconmasta · **Posted:** January 27th, 2005, 11:39 pm

Hiker, i agree with you 100 percent. I havn't been around the longest, but i do remember the good times. To everyone: Hiker doesn't want all disagreements to stop. They're a part of a healthy community. What does need to stop is the fighting! If everyone's first response is to shout, then the village falls about.

Everyone also needs to be MATURE. If someone does flame you, LET IT GO. I cannot emphasize it enough. If you don't flame back, flame wars will never start I can understand if some of you are younger and not as mature. I'm 13, and can let this stuff fly no problem.

Finally, people need to learn to recgonize what a flame is. Something along the lines of "OMG J00 :bunny:

go to

you mother :bunny:

ing

" is a flame. Someone going "Noob" is NOT a flame!

For now though, i think the village is pulling up. Theres actually new people here with 1k+ posts. (Points at americankid, Babz, and AE) Kudos to you guys, you are the next generation of RVers.

Change is ahead though, thats for sure. We aren't going to go on banning sprees, though you can be assured that anyone and everyone flaming WILL be punished, and with more warnings/temp bans than before.

Finally, just an idea of my own. What if we made people lurk before allowing them to post? Like a 1 or 2 week period after registration where they can view everywhere, but they can't post. That way, that can learn the rules, nad be less likely to make stupid mistakes once they are allowed to join.

-b2c0n

24788 · **Posted:** January 28th, 2005, 8:54 am

Where is this small village you speak of?

PaladinWhyte · **Posted:** January 28th, 2005, 9:27 am

He's saying that's how it used to be... Back when there weren't 45,000 members.

CleverArcher · **Posted:** January 28th, 2005, 10:34 am

Hiker, you are on the right track once again and I couldn't have made a better speech myself. We need to get rid of abuse, flaming, spam and the lot and im glad that FINALLY someone is actually deciding to make RV take action against it.

And who really cares if we go back down to 500 members in order to show that we are enforcing the rules once again? Though I don't really think this is a realistic figure, 5000 is more realistic with the amount of members we got, but if we properly enforce the rules and get less of this stuff going on and more honest people around.

But face it, guys, whats past is past. While we can get as close as is physically possible, there is no way RV can be what it was...

It is doubtful...

ilovearagorn · **Posted:** January 28th, 2005, 10:38 am

Couldnt agree more. Let us all try and be diplomats when we tell people to go to hell. (Flamers, have fun down there, and dont forget to send a postcard!

)

Dr. McMurder · **Posted:** January 28th, 2005, 10:41 am

Ares wrote:

Mmmm..I argree. But some Mods need too know that because there mods, the cant abuse people or put them down.

I agree.

If you have trouble with a Mod, or someone else who has authority and responsibility in the forums, you should try to resolve it with the person directly. If that does not work, then Hiker is the person to go to. I do advice being careful with this. If you are having problems with many mods, then it is most likely that the common problem is your behaiviour, not the mods.

Everyone should remember to try and resolve your differences one-to-one with respect for the other persons points of view.

Dr. M.

miketheguy · **Posted:** January 28th, 2005, 11:00 am

good, the village staff is taking these matters into their hands and lots of non caring people will get banned

hopefully i'm caring

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