[quote="VOLVO"]Back. Sorry about that, was busy arranging my plans to sabotage this town.

Aaaanyway, [b]RUBICK[/b] because I want to have another go at killing him.[/quote]



[b]volvo[/b]

There is zero logic to be joke voting on day 3.

..bb code again

Volvo

I am not sure what a VOLVO lynch does for us. Not that he isn't clearly asking for it, but what do we gain from that? Would we be surprised to find out he comes back a simple vanilla town? (Not I.) ZAPPA, TARANTULA, and QUINTEN are all quality targets to pursue a lynch train on. I would not be surprised to see any of these names return back mafia.

QUINTEN has played a very safe game with his votes. TARANTULA refused to hammer ZAPPA given the chance. And ZAPPA has been the most active player I do not get a positive villager read from.

We really need to take some initiative here. As such, I continue my ZAPPA vote. I have no interest in continuing to be a fractured town.

see id agree with your logic if i wasnt my own driving force behind my initial activity. never was i dragged from the shadows to be judgd i put myself in the limelight and have held it all gmae

as it is youre trying too hard to justify voting for me in order to fall back on a nice defense once i flip vanilla

Where is everybody? We're not in a position to idle and watch things.

Yes, I'm breaking character. Two important things need to be said before this day comes to an end.

Firstly, this is the only day I can be trusted as a villager. The Disguiser role is a perfect way to throw any cleared investigations into jeopardy; until their removal, the only complete, true clearing of a name is what happened last night. The protection of someone from death. And that lasts for one single, solid day.

Secondly, stop trying and failing to go after Zappa. There's next to nothing flat-out scummy about him, especially compared to what some others have done so far. Waters and Yoruichi are both similarly offering little content, no fuel to any fires, refusing to vote for each other despite constant suspicions from other much more aggressive town-like players, and seem to want to focus on Zappa despite any lack of evidence or substance due to the numbers game simply working in their favor.

Uranus, you're wasting your vote. The guy Volvo is going after isn't concerned about it because nobody else seems to be, either. It'll work itself out before the game's over. Of that, I am confident.

Xerxes, as much as you seem to be able to put together a well worded post, it's not finishing the job because of a combination of inactivity and people simply not agreeing with you. I don't like this Zappa train, and Zappa himself won't get on it.

My vote stands. Everyone's saying Yoruichi and Waters are possible targets; let's see one of them happen.

My dear ally, Yoruichi seems completely villager to me. It was she that tried to get Tarantula to seal the deal on ZAPPAs head, while not being overly pushy about it.

I desire the head of ZAPPA and I will not rest until I have it. The fact that he has been so hard to kill only makes me think that the ones not voting for him are the biggest threats, with you of course an exception.

If ZAPPA was with us, then why does the enemy not bring their axe down upon him? Why would they obstain?

Our enemies are either those not voting for ZAPPA or those that currently are.

a question that displas your fine inbreeding o king

why, indeed would the mafia want someone that isnt one of their own to be scruttinized all game

if theyre really smart about it currently, one of them's on me, on of hems not and you wont see the second join in unles it secures their win

The votes flew all over the place. Distrust was everywhere, and instead of uniting, the group only splintered further following RUBICK's escape from death.

The sun passes over the scumdome.

ZAPPA - 3 - XERXES, QUENTIN, YORUICHI
YORUICHI - 1 - ZAPPA
VOLVO - 2 - TARANTULA, URANUS
RUBICK - 1 - VOLVO
WATERS - 1 - RUBICK

ABSTAINERS - WATERS

"That one really flew by, huh?" RENO said disinterestedly. "You know the drill."

NIGHT THREE BEGINS. IF YOU'VE GOT AN ACTION, PM IT NOW. THE NIGHT ENDS AT 3:21 AM EASTERN TIME ON OCTOBER 26th, OR WHEN ALL ACTIONS ARE RECEIVED.

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Let us be done with this nonsense.

The tracker has been fine with killing ZAPPA, but seemed firm that VOLVO could be villager.

ZAPPA must die. The hardest people to lynch in a game with low activity seems to be the actual mafia members, and we keep falling short on Zappa despite people agreeing that he's coming off scummy.

I honestly thought YORUICHI was mafia, and that was the biggest reason I didn't want to vote for ZAPPA. Welp I was wrong. I still don't know about VOLVO, and WATERS seems to refuse to vote. Those would be the other suspects in my opinion.

this si gonna be a long one, this day is probably gonna go fast and my acces is limited right now so bear with


you all seem to fail to realize that this is in fact the perfect time for the disguiser to have activated. the former yourichi has reinfiltrated - exactly as who anyone could but speculte at the moment, though picking those who have stuck by their gimicks would be a worse move, so i'd reexamine xerxes and quentin last

my prime suspect dying and chaning your minds about me? its exactly what they want. its 6-2 right now. pushing through a lynch on a suspect, greased by his suspect being the kill target (and the tracker, sure, but that being much more then a reasonable guess on the mafais part id only be convinced of afer the game), is exactly what shoul be done now. kill me andtomorrow, barring a doctor's success, it's 4-2, at which point the classic dogpile happens.

basically stop and think here because if you vote for me you just make it mafia vs doctor, and god help you if you let the earlier success sway you.

The only alternative I'm comforatble givving without more people posting (becuase serisouly that impostor needs to be found) is volvo due to that willful vote yesterday for our one onfirmed.

The problem with your plea, ZAPPA, is that trackers don't find out alignments of the people they follow. They only see who the target of the person was. This disguiser you speak of has no place in a battlefield without a standard oracle (detective).

Whatever YORUICHI saw, was who targeted what player. Obviously this means that if they saw a person that targeted RUBICK that they could have been watching either the doctor or the assailant. I would even go so far as to say they tracked the same person twice in a row just to be sure.

That person is you, ZAPPA. You must die for Persia's glory.

The good ideas will survive.

Zappa

Running out of good quotes here guys, might have to switch to movie quotes next...
Also it turns out C7B175 is a good code to hide color! WHO KNEW?

ZAPPA made a fair point, no need for a quick lynch. (Though we seriously need to try and kill off a mafesto today) Also say the mafia did replace someone, I think a smart choice would have been someone with few posts (Easier to imitate).
That leaves

URANUS, and QUENTIN - Both infrequent poster's
RUBICK - A confirmed town (Best choice imo, though he does post more than the other two)

My reasoning on the others

No way would they choose
ZAPPA - With all the heat it would make no sense
XERXES - Posts too unique (A method to madness)

I don't think they would choose
VOLVO - Because he posts nonsense

Assuming YORUICHI was the Disguiser
QUENTIN and Myself probably wouldn't be targets due to the fact the last post they made was throwing shade at us. (Aswell as ZAPPA)

That leaves me banking on WATERS being the other mafia. He's simply played too passive, then just dropped off the radar.

Sorry, XERXES, but I find fault with this post. The first fault I've found with you. For numerous reasons at once, no less.
1.) The character break is uncharacteristic. Rich coming from me, I'm sure, but you've been thus far able and willing to do it quite well until now.
2.) No part of Zappa's plea implied the Tracker could determine alignments. You're putting words in his mouth.
3.) The Disguiser has a place. I pointed it out yesterday: anyone who has been "confirmed" by such things as detectives, trackers, jailkeepers, or successful protections from a doctor, becomes a prime target to be disguised. You're trying to dismiss their importance.
4...
This is our setup. I'm not Bulletproof; I was successfully protected by a Doctor. We've seen the Tracker tagged. There is no other combination. So why did you feel the need to specify a Detective? For that matter...
5.) Why did you feel the need to spell out the Oracle as the Detective, when you referenced the oracle earlier in the game without the tag? Everyone knew what you meant.

Here's what I think. Yuroichi was the Disguiser. Xerxes was the Tracker. Xerxes tracked Zappa and somehow nailed a night-one viewing of the kill. Xerxes' focus on Zappa gave Yuroichi and/or Zappa a clue that Xerxes had a special role. Yuroichi claimed Xerxes in the night to eliminate the tracker, and throw the dice on a Zappa lynch again to stay in the Xerxes character. If it's a success, let's face it, nobody would want Xerxes dead after that. If it's a failure, it's Zappa's aforementioned doctor vs. mafia game.

Now, let's assume I'm right. Who do we kill? Zappa and Xerxes are the implied Mafia in the scenario.
If I'm wrong, and Yuroichi was the genuine tracker, who do we kill? They did indeed primarily target Zappa. I'd stand by Waters as the last Mafia quite readily.
But, one step at a time.

ZAPPA

Firstly I have to say there really is no explanation for my inactivity. Take it or leave it.

Secondly, I find your willingness to split the vote strange. Also strange: you're making a list pointing out the painfully obvious. But I agree with part of your premise, I think a mafia disguise as RUBICK would be the mafia's best bet based on the fact that he was saved (confirmed if this were a normal game) and made only one post out of character before Night 3. It would be entirely possible for the disguiser to take over RUBICK and make posts with subtle differences and we wouldn't necessarily see them given he had made one post out of character before last night.

With all that being said, RUBICK, I believe to try to find out who the disguiser has become we not only have to analyze the posts but we have to analyze the 'kill' that we didn't see. The only thing about your scenario that doesn't make sense to me is why they would choose to kill Xerxes, given his posting pattern? He has been very consistent in both his posting style and his voting. I doubt the mafia would risk having to pull off such a stunt. It's far more likely that they would either target VOLVO or you given the above.

It's also entirely possible that the role is being used as a scapegoat to get us talking in circles and hasn't been/won't be used.

At any rate, I voted for ZAPPA before and I will do it again. I'm only slightly more inclined to believe that he is mafia outright rather than YORUICHI was the disguiser and targeted RUBICK. Either way, I would also be on board with pursuing a lynch train on RUBICK.

The gods frown upon me this day. I had paid no heed to the the inclusion of this "Epic Mafia" role and had let myself confuse it with the framer. You are correct in that there is clearly only one way that the mafia would align, but my researches have brought back information in regards to these disguised traitors.

If they die, they will be shown to all. A disguiser takes not the responsibilities of their victim. They merely use their face. My informants also mention that this role is often one that involves nightly visits. That if they see someone die, they get to take their role. How simple would it be to simply visit the same victim as your partner? It would be the only sensible way to work out such a crime.

That the enemy would target someone of my stature shows me that they are afraid. They wish to cut Persia down tomorrow knowing that they may not be able to tonight.

Perhaps there is no healer at all, and we truly do have a man clad in iron within our ranks.

With ZAPPA dead, RUBICK and VOLVO seem to be our prime suspects. VOLVO is all too easy to imitate and carries that risk as it is. RUBICK is someone that has "died" and fits the requirements for the enemy to make their mask.

However, there is a point that your great king has also made himself known a clear ally. If the enemy has not yet made their disguise, I am surely a strong candidate as well. There is no one a person would rather be than the great King of Persia.

Lol took you guys forever to finally kill me good job town but uoll never catch my partner now