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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 6:07 pm 
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Then allow me to make my vote while at college instead of trying to make a post while rushing to get ready for it.

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PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 6:14 pm 
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Roleclaim


Gonna go ahead and ignore that suggestion, thanks.

If people didn't believe my claim, I'd be lynched promptly.

If people believed my claim, then I'd become 'semi-clear', which will easily make me a high priority target for mafia. We don't want to trap our doctor on one target, not this early in the game.

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If you're vigilante or detective or something like that, why can't you trust a doctor to protect you and make use of your ability?


See above. The detective should avoid claiming at all cost unless they have a guilty or are about to be lynched. The (possible) vigilante should avoid claiming unless he is going to be lynched. Same goes for any other power roles. We don't want to trap our doctor on one player.

I'm sick of your rolefishing. Kikori Kid

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 6:30 pm 
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Roleclaim


Gonna go ahead and ignore that suggestion, thanks.

If people didn't believe my claim, I'd be lynched promptly.

If people believed my claim, then I'd become 'semi-clear', which will easily make me a high priority target for mafia. We don't want to trap our doctor on one target, not this early in the game.

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If you're vigilante or detective or something like that, why can't you trust a doctor to protect you and make use of your ability?


See above. The detective should avoid claiming at all cost unless they have a guilty or are about to be lynched. The (possible) vigilante should avoid claiming unless he is going to be lynched. Same goes for any other power roles. We don't want to trap our doctor on one player.

I'm sick of your rolefishing. Kikori Kid


I actually agree with this, something is different about your playstyle thus far Kikori, you do normally vote to get people to talk but you seem a lot mroe jumbled thsi time like you're trying to get a train going on someone without actually having to vote for them yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 7:39 pm 
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Well, problem.

I'm the doctor.

I wouldn't mind being latched onto one specific target if said target could actually, I dunno, DO SOMETHING USEFUL for the village.
Thus far, however, trying to go through with that has met suspicion. So, I get to go back to an old standby I'm fairly certain I stated publicly. If I get doctor, screw anyone else. I'm protecting myself every single night to be effectively invinvible if I can get you guys to believe I'm doctor.

For the metagame record, I've never had a special role as a villager before except the Nurse, and that had me unable to protect 'til the doctor died, which happened AFTER I died. So there's no previous game experience to go by for me having a special role. Have fun either believing or lynching your doctor.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 8:32 pm 
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Tanks, I just can't place it but, you just seem scummy.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 8:34 pm 
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If I get doctor, screw anyone else. I'm protecting myself every single night to be effectively invinvible if I can get you guys to believe I'm doctor.


Pretty sure doctor don't work that way, kikori kid


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 8:46 pm 
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Don't see how no one else thinks Top is acting scummy.

Top, I never said you should claim. I said, going "Guys I have a role, don't lynch me" and not saying what that role is is very, very scummy. You're twisting this to say we want you to roleclaim, which is not at all what the point was. And also, claiming "villager" does not count as roleclaiming. I don't know why you brought that up.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 8:58 pm 
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unvote. Bah. This is bloody ridiculous, As stated by himself, he does this to get info, not to rolefish. He did this last game, he was villager, so his voting pattern makes sense. Steely seems more and more right now that I think about. Topsummoner.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 9:03 pm 
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Even if you are able to protect yourself (which usually isn't common, but then again Tahu may not know this), there was no reason to claim. AT ALL. I'm really not buying into this Topsummoner lynch, especially since we presumably already have one roleclaim out on the table. Depending on what happens in the later days might put more scrutiny on Topsummoner (see: why aren't you dead?), but not right now.

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His logic is flawless. Topsummoner

I concur. We must lynch him now for the sake of the metagame, we MUST teach people that they can't go around claiming "anniversary" and expect leniency. Topsummoner.


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PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 9:41 pm 
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Doctor works how doctor wants it to work, Thyker. I have a record of being attacked, killed, muted, roleblocked, etc. extremely quickly as a villager that keeps me from playing past day three. I was quite content to sit back and look for the people I thought should be protected, but a couple people decided me rolefishing for said people to protect was worthy of trying to lynch me.

Doctor don't work that way? I'd rather doctor work to keep me alive and keep me a threat to the mafia than the doctor be dead 'cause you people can't take me at my word. :?:

Paidea, with a train started against me, you'd rather I stay quiet about my role and let myself be lynched for having to lie about a reason for rolefishing?

Steely, it wasn't a case of Top not acting scummy. It was apparently my rolefishing being scummier.

I tried it night one, Paidea. I protected myself. I'm not dead, so I know I'm not a CPR / Quack doctor. And I got no reply saying "I can't do this, make another choice".

Any more problems with my roleclaim?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 9:44 pm 
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And also, claiming "villager" does not count as roleclaiming.


wat. kay

Steely, how am I supposed to defend myself from an accusation like that then? And other people (kik for one) flat out stated they wanted me to roleclaim, so nice try. FOS Steely.

Meanwhile, lol trainhopping rocks

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 9:55 pm 
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*Sighs* Hm.

Thyker wants me dead.
I want Paidea dead.
Steely, rocks, and I-forget-who-else want Top dead.
Top wants rocks dead.
Monk wants bluecoat dead.
Rip wants Tanks dead.
Tanks wants Rip dead.

... Let's see. Out of the me-Thyker-Paidea trio, I know I'm villager and I've claimed doctor. Thyker's after me even after I claimed, possibly to hope for a swing at getting me lynched despite only being at 5/8 at the time. I don't believe Paidea's being Paidea at all. So I'm quite willing to wager one of the two's mafia.
Trying to work out the reasoning against Top would go in too many circles. D: Majority =/= right, but Top only countered Rocks and didn't do much else to Steely or the third party.
I'm fairly certain one of the two between Rip and Tanks is mafia, too.

Time will help tell. 'Til then, there's about three hours left 'til most of us will be dead asleep, and since nobody's swinging over to Paidea and many others are against a Top lynch, rocks.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 10:06 pm 
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*sigh*

I voted Top because he kept saying Kik is rolefishing. Even though he asked you to roleclaim, I think he may have suggested it and not demanded it. Also, your little Trapping the doctor bit was kinda ridiculous. Think about it. I'd much rather have a confirmend vigilante doctor'd than some random fella.

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Back in the day we were damned lucky to get 30k xp an hour. I remember I trained to level 100 in rsc, back when it meant something at average of 25k xp an hour.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 10:09 pm 
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No matter your role, be it vanilla villager, power role or mafia, it's just not a good idea to roleclaim on D1, especially if you don't have to. Would you prefer I had outed my role then Steely, because if you do, I could use some of my OWN backwards logic to call you out on rolefishing or something.


You were implying claiming vanilla townie is the same as claiming a power role. That's what I was referring to when I said claiming villager does not count as roleclaiming.

And this is actually another case of you twisting my words. I have not once said I think you should roleclaim. I have said nothing but claiming to have a role but not saying what it is is scummy. That point you have not yet responded to.

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PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 10:11 pm 
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Oh, also FoS on Penguin. Too quiet then normal plus his voting pattern seems different.

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Back in the day we were damned lucky to get 30k xp an hour. I remember I trained to level 100 in rsc, back when it meant something at average of 25k xp an hour.

And we walked fifteen miles to the varrock bank in the snow without shoes or socks, uphill both ways! :-s

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I had a dream where Sah launched a one man terrorist attack all over the internet shutting down over 80% of all the websites in the world and I was literally inside the internet, in my own body watching the updates as if the internet is something a person can exist in. IE virtual reality?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Unlucky 13: Day 2, 15 left.
PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 10:26 pm 
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Doctor works how doctor wants it to work, Thyker.


GONNA GO PERFORM SURGERY ON MYSELF, BRB.



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PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 10:28 pm 
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also what's with this "you people"

you got somethin' to tell us, kik?

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Oh, also FoS on Penguin. Too quiet then normal plus his voting pattern seems different.

Too quiet? What about the people not posting anything constructive, or nothing at all? And what do you mean voting pattern seems different?

What the heck?

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Kikori, even though he didn't tell you it didn't work that doesn't always mean you can do it. Like if you're role-blocked chances are you wouldn't be told, this may be the same in that if you protect yourself it fails without telling you.

I don't remember taking part in a game where the Doc can protect himself...

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Oh, also FoS on Penguin. Too quiet then normal plus his voting pattern seems different.


Right, so he is being quiet yet he has voted enough for you to compare it to other games? How does that make any sense? I don't like how you seem to be jumping around so much, your current vote is for Top who has had a train on him for a long time now and you did little mroe in your voting post than agree with Steely and vote.

Then when you explain it a few posts later you said:
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I voted Top because he kept saying Kik is rolefishing. Even though he asked you to roleclaim, I think he may have suggested it and not demanded it. Also, your little Trapping the doctor bit was kinda ridiculous. Think about it. I'd much rather have a confirmend vigilante doctor'd than some random fella.


So as long as I don't demand someone roleclaim I'm not fishing? Asking or demanding you're still trying to find out the persons role, which = role-fishing. Better for the Vig to keep attention away from themselves than role claim and tie up the doc when there is still a chance of him being able to save someone else who is drawing attention to themselves.

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PostPosted: February 25th, 2010, 11:21 pm 
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Lul.

inb4mylynching. I said that wrong Pengu. What I meant is you voted Top for pretty much the same bloody reason I did, and Top just left you off with a question. I did the same thing, yet he voted me.
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Too quiet?
Yes, posting little is being quiet
What about the people not posting anything constructive, or nothing at all?
2 of your posts were spam, 1 was a bandwagon, and one was against me, not the most constructive posting
And what do you mean voting pattern seems different?
See earlier remark, I did say that wrong

What the heck?
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Right, so he is being quiet yet he has voted enough for you to compare it to other games? How does that make any sense? I don't like how you seem to be jumping around so much, your current vote is for Top who has had a train on him for a long time now and you did little mroe in your voting post than agree with Steely and vote.
Look, I said it wrong, so see the edit, but his actual serious vote seemed to be a bandwagon and not something well constructed like I thought it would be.

So as long as I don't demand someone roleclaim I'm not fishing?
Asking or demanding you're still trying to find out the persons role, which = role-fishing.
Yes, but he wasn't trying to force-claim like everyone else thinks he was
Better for the Vig to keep attention away from themselves than role claim and tie up the doc when there is still a chance of him being able to save someone else who is drawing attention to themselves.
Well that's the doc's choice, but I'd rather have a confirmed power role protected then have some one else, whether it be a possible power role or the like, playing it safe would just make more sense. This is just me though





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And we walked fifteen miles to the varrock bank in the snow without shoes or socks, uphill both ways! :-s

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