Bit difficult for there to be anything else to go on when all he has contributed so far is one post D1, which I shall reveal here in all its glory:


Inactives killed us endgame last time around when we didn't have enough people posting to get a lynch, so I'd much rather eliminate them early on in the game. Especially when it's almost certain a few mafia will be lurking and not saying much and if they don't say much there isn't much that can be used to build a case against them.

Lastly, and this is more of a general benefit (and perhaps it benefits the meta-game as well but just saying that will probably get me lynched so I won't bring it up) - but if inactives are targets then it encourages everyone to stay active and post. And the more people posting the more mafia are posting, and the more mafia that post the greater the chances are that they will slip up.

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I see what you're saying, Tweedy. Thyker, get talking.

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I can deal with it! I roll with 8ad 8r8ks all the time. No 8iggie!

I, for one, support this notion.
Thyker normally is more active on mafia, and him hiding around is suspicious, as we all know that inactives (as Penguin said) "crippled the village" last game.

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Eastgotenks wrote:

Back in the day we were damned lucky to get 30k xp an hour. I remember I trained to level 100 in rsc, back when it meant something at average of 25k xp an hour.

And we walked fifteen miles to the varrock bank in the snow without shoes or socks, uphill both ways!

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I had a dream where Sah launched a one man terrorist attack all over the internet shutting down over 80% of all the websites in the world and I was literally inside the internet, in my own body watching the updates as if the internet is something a person can exist in. IE virtual reality?

Oh yeah, the Internet is a room at night with hills and Weeping Willows. True story.

They were confirmed power roles for the village. 50% are still good chances to hit one of them, yet neither were targeted. As mafia, it'd be best to get power roles out of the way earlier in the game. I refer you to Mafia 8 when I was mafia, and Steely (watcher) was killed D2 when either him or Mentos (vig) may have been killed. I don't know if mafia is playing it safe and not taking a good 50% chance, or something else is going on.

And today I don't mind killing an inactive, so i'll see who the villager agrees on before voting.

Hello, everyone. How are you this fine evening?

Really, after all the games you've played with me you should know it's my style to stay quiet until I think I found someone who is mafia. But if you really want my input.... I don't think rocksrocks is mafia, but is probably the best choice for a lynch at the moment if you still want one, and I have been known to be wrong before. However, not lynching does have it's benefits and has pretty much crippled me a lot when I was mafia in past games. It allows players to get more information on those who talk (look for tells) and let any watching or detective roles get information on those who don't talk.

So my advice is simple, flip a coin and decide whether to not lynch or lynch rocksrocks. I am a fan of the no-lynch idea at the moment, especially when I'm not certain of the people I have my suspicions of yet, so that would be why I'm not voting for rocks before anyone asks about that.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean rocks in that last post (probably had him in my mind because he was the last to vote for me) I meant Sweep.

This is why I voted Tahu. "Might as well" is colloquial with bandwagoning.

Rockrocks, really?

Maybe I should have underlined "only". Or maybe made it size 200. Either way, DO NOT REVEAL YOUR REPORT UNLESS THE PERSON YOU FOLLOWED VISITED THE PERSON WHO DIED. Mkay?

If they visited no one, the mafia know they aren't a visiting role. If they visited someone else who is alive, the mafia know they are a visiting role. So just don't post it. Shame on J@nr0k for going against what I said.


Are you making a statement, or are you accusing me of such?


You're going to have to help me out here. I don't recall any such comment being made or being asked a question. If someone asks me a direct question, I do my best to answer it.

J Assassin voted for me because he agreed with rockrocks' opinion that "being spammy" was not worthy of a vote, NOT because he disagreed with my logic (which is, if anyone hasn't been keeping up: if you aren't currently voting for someone, there is no point in FoS-ing them when you could just as easily vote them. Also see this.). At least, he didn't state that as a reason at the time, but is NOW saying that diagreeing with my logic was a reason.

I understand why J Assassin voted for TheAnimal, but I don't understand why he isn't providing input on anything else going on, instead of just throwing around votes. Agreeing with bluecoat's point about play style in addition to what I have above, I'm settling on a vote for J Assassin today, since no one seems to be biting on Tahu.

To touch on what Thyker just posted, it is completely contradictory to say that you don't think someone is mafia, but is still the best choice for a lynch. Second, Thyker suggests we have only two choices today: lynch Sweep, or lynch no one. This is obviously incorrect, and not lynching anyone is the WORST thing we can do today. I've really got my eye on you, Thyker. Playing style is no excuse for not contributing, especially when your idea of input is unhelpful advice.

~Paidea

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Sorry that I seem to get on after the argument has already happened. Lynch me if you want, I don't care. I'm just a normal townie anyway.

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I can deal with it! I roll with 8ad 8r8ks all the time. No 8iggie!

Eh, I could go line by line explaining how everything I said was logically understandable especially from a strategic standpoint. But I won't simply because it's really obvious when you step back and think about it, and I'm pretty sure I explained the reasoning fully in my post.

Either way, Paidea.


Oh yeah, and you read things completely wrong when you think a "suggestion" is "Your only option is..."

You said Sweep was the best choice for a lynch, even though you don't think he's mafia. That makes absolutely no sense. You said Sweep was the best choice for a lynch, and now are voting me. That makes absolutely no sense. You said you aren't voting for Sweep because you aren't sure of your suspicions yet, but you vote me after previously having given no such suspicion, or reasons for voting me. That makes absolutely no sense.

Thyker

~Paidea

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You're getting very defensive and apparently really want to push blame on anyone other than you.

Which is perfectly normal behavior for a paranoid villager, but even more normal for a mafia. Paidea, you're right when you say we have other options besides lynching Sweep or no lynch at all. We could lynch you if you want.
That being said, I see several people, namely Thyker, Paidea, and Sweep, all acting in a manner that could easily be construed as mafia. Scar and Rockrocks both roleclaimed to avoid getting lynched, and so far neither has been able to give solid proof of their role, which makes them potential targets, especially if a bunch of pro-town roles turn up dead. At this point, I'm not sure a lynch today is in our favor unless we can weed out a mafia, but in the interests of gathering information, I'm not going to recommend a dayskip. However, I will Unvote.

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Thyker is back to posting normally with his typical playstyle, so unvote

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Eastgotenks wrote:

Back in the day we were damned lucky to get 30k xp an hour. I remember I trained to level 100 in rsc, back when it meant something at average of 25k xp an hour.

And we walked fifteen miles to the varrock bank in the snow without shoes or socks, uphill both ways!

Frank 3.14 wrote:

I had a dream where Sah launched a one man terrorist attack all over the internet shutting down over 80% of all the websites in the world and I was literally inside the internet, in my own body watching the updates as if the internet is something a person can exist in. IE virtual reality?

Oh yeah, the Internet is a room at night with hills and Weeping Willows. True story.

My original defence of Sweep was made without actually re-reading over your cases against Scar/rockrocks. You weren't bandwagonning them so my point is pretty much null.


It's not particularly important now, but here it is:



Thyker, I read your post with an increasing sense of disbelief. Sweep isn't mafia but we should lynch him regardless, although you aren't prepared to vote for him and you actually say "if you want one". The you in the quotations clearly refers to the town, you obviously don't consider yourself one of us. Which would make you... I wonder.


How does not lynching help us at all? All of your supposed benefits apply equally if we lynch. Particularly when we probably don't have a vig.

The OMGUS vote on Paidea just solidifies my vote for you.


Thyker can be very easily construed as mafia because I'm pretty damn sure he is. Lynching a mafia is always in our favour, and if we don't get enough votes then we can't rely on a vig to finish our target off tonight. We need to muster up the votes today. Thyker was absolutely quiet prior to suspicion being cast on him, and then he crawls out of the woodwork and gives us his suggestions, which consist of lynching somebody who is not mafia in his opinion, or not lynching. When confronted with the sheer stupidity of that statement (sorry to be harsh, but really...) he promptly votes for Paidea, who pointed out how his response makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. This is as good a proof you're going to have of a mafioso this side of some investigative role coming forward, and we can't afford to wait that long.

And rockrocks, if his normal playstyle is behaving like a mafioso, then I'd agree with you. But that isn't his normal playstyle...his defence was in no way satisfactory and I don't see how you can think it is.

One final thing - interesting that Thyker's only vote prior to today was for Tahu - two mafia trying to keep themselves separate?

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unvote Sweep

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TheAnimal is one cool dude.

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There's a demo. Play the demo. Form your own opinion.

ah| TheWinrar(cIV): oh wow
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My new years resolution is 1680x1050.

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TheAnimal is one cool dude.

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There's a demo. Play the demo. Form your own opinion.

GET OFF MY ICE CREAM.

Just to clarify, we were not speaking outside the game. I just had to congratulate him ;_;

will post thoughts on Thyker case tommorow... probably. brain can't proccess

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Antic Hero wrote:

My new years resolution is 1680x1050.

Rocky Martin wrote:

TheAnimal is one cool dude.

Hideyoshi wrote:

There's a demo. Play the demo. Form your own opinion.

I'd just like to say one thing.

ROCKS AND SCAR ARE NOT COMFIRMED
Nor will they ever be, nor will any claimed role be, until they are dead or the game ends. Claiming a power role does not confirm you. Even if you claim detective and catch a mafia, you still can be mafia. I know, I've done it, and successfully too.

Now, as for Thyker,

This slightly unnerves me. He casts a blanket suspicion on Paidea, leaving ourselves to determine why. He basically gave no reasons, and never really accuses Paidea of nothing more that misinterpreting him hand being defensive. Also, he said that no-lynch was a good option, when its not. Its letting the mafia get in another kill, while we get none. lastly, he said Sweep would be the best to lynch, even though he didn't think he was mafia. Why lynch someone you don't believe is mafia?
Thyker

And Top, why did you FoS me?

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