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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 15th, 2009, 10:01 pm 
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Ok, last resort

Guys, I'm the tracker. Each night I can follow someone to see if someone visits or if they visit someone. No, I'm not fooling you. I followed Paidea last night, he did not visit anyone.


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Sorry Paid, thought if I didn't mentioned what I did, people would call shenanigans on me, and I would be lynched.


This is exactly why I voted for him, lets think for a moment. What is a good way to get people to not vote for you? Simple, claim a plausible pro-town power role. Regardless of weather or not he is actually the tracker, my reason for voting was just as sound as anyone elses.

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(1)Hmm, so your voting Rocks because he bread-crumbed?
(2)Also, Rocks never went after Tweedy :?:
(3)And while saying this, you don't even mention previous mistakes...


(1) I voted for Rockrocks because he had once again attacked a villager, and to me it seemed his potential role-claim was just a way for him to try and save himself.
(2)Sorry, meant Top.
(3) I didn't mention any other mistakes, because everything that could be said about those had been said and there was no need to repeat them.

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Wow, yeah. That was not good. Scar for voting after a roleclaim (close enough anyways).


Uhh, no. I voted before he ever claimed an actual role. When I posted all he had so far that we would regret it if we lynched him.

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....Are you guys serious?

He basically roleclaimed, and people are still voting him. Jesus.


Basically Roleclaiming =/= Roleclaiming. It has happened before, and I am sure it will happen again. Someone is about to get lynched so they come out with a role-claim trying to save their own skin.

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Scar, when you're a power role and you're about to be lynched, you have to claim. It is pulling at straws, and in any case, we aren't lynching a claimed Tracker.


I agree, if he is the tracker then we shouldn't lynch him. However, last time i checked "lynch me and you'll regret it" isn't a role-claim. If you notice my post was made before he made any mention of an actual role.

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Just because someone isn't playing well doesn't mean you continue with their lynch after they've claimed to be a power role.
~Paidea


I didn't continue with his lynch solely because he was playing badly, that advice was put there for him alone not to be evidence in any way. You can't deny that's true, if he hadn't put himself in the spotlight like that he could have avoided being almost lynched and outed to the Mafia.

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Oh Wow. Is this like the fourth time a power roles gets outed by day two? :grr: Unvote.

Though, I am not just letting you go. I've roleclaimed I think like four times, and its as easy as,
"OHAI GUISE IM DETECTIVE DONT KILL ME" I'm serious, no joke. Claim detective, catch a mafia, and its "FOLLOW THE SHEPARD MY SHEEP"


^^That proves what I've been trying to say this entire post.

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For voting after rockrocks made it out that he obviously had a pro-town power role.


Claiming to have a pro-town power role =/= actually having one. Especially when you only say you have one while not even offering a role name to back your claim up.

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Top's gonna say for the same reasons as Paid. ;D

Gonna go with the town here and go for Scar. You acknowledge that rocks is a possible power role but still vote him? Not a good thing.



You read his post clearly, since you responded to it. Yet you held your vote until the train had switched to another track? If you thought he was telling the truth why not unvote in your post after his, instead of trying to explain to him why you voted for him.


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For the time being unvote Rockrocks.

FoS Rockrocks because the last ditch role claim.

Topsummoner, for voting with no reason after his tirade about how sheeping is bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 15th, 2009, 10:02 pm 
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Forgot to add:

I was ninja'd like three times during the process of compiling that thing. So if i missed anyone let me know.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 15th, 2009, 10:03 pm 
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Topsummoner, for voting with no reason after his tirade about how sheeping is bad.


Forgot to remove that part, I added in Tops post after the site told me he posted while i was typing.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:35 am 
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Unvote rockrocks. Role claim sounds genuine.

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Tweedy wrote:
Excellent point made by bluecoat btw about Monk's rolefishing - FoS Monk Basher.


I feel like everyone ignores my posts and when they don't, its because they suspect I'm mafia. :(

Yeah Tweedy, I wasn't the first to say Monk was fishing, I just noticed it after J@n did (but for the record, I was going to post it before I read your post).

Heh, sorry J@nrok. I read over your post and remembered the point when I made my reply, but didn't double check it. Certainly no intent on my part to ignore your post. ^_^

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I'm here, just so I don't get lynched for inactivity again.

I'll post something in a bit, I just have to catch up to what went on overnight, 4 pages to read. ._.

Didn't you say the exact same thing last game except you never did?

Agreed on Scar. His first today apologised for his low activity levels and how he hasn't found much to comment on so far. That got my hackles up immediately - posting without saying anything useful and there is plenty of stuff to comment on. Not least where he stands on rockrocks. Then after J@nrok votes for him, it looks like Scar realised that here's a chance to off a villager - a villager who's just dropped a hint he has a role. So he goes in for the kill...but now it's backfired because in his eagerness to secure another villager lynch he's exposed himself.

That makes 7 votes for Scar.

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This is exactly why I voted for him, lets think for a moment. What is a good way to get people to not vote for you? Simple, claim a plausible pro-town power role. Regardless of weather or not he is actually the tracker, my reason for voting was just as sound as anyone elses.

No, it wasn't. All of us voted prior to rockrocks claiming. Maybe he is lying - that's possible. But I'm not willing to take the risk of lynching our tracker D2. Your initial vote was after he hinted he had a role - that's excusable, but iffy. Would make more sense to ask him why we'd miss him before adding your vote to the vote pyre. Then after he claims, you maintain your vote on him.

Finally - anyone notice Jay's been very quiet on the subject of Scar (he's been quiet in general...).

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 9:24 am 
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That's because I haven't been on much. College sucks time. I have been keeping tabs on the topic.

Anyway, Scar, I understand your logic about the last ditch role claim. However, that doesn't make it wrong. You NEVER vote for a potential town power role, no matter how suspicious it is, unless you're in a make or break situation. Scar

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 9:30 am 
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Got to agree with Scar here.

FoS: Paidea

Very quick to jump on Rocksrocks and Scar.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 9:30 am 
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Also FOS: Penguinguy for being hesitant on voting Scar.

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PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 9:34 am 
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Also FOS: Penguinguy for being hesitant on voting Scar.

Not sure that's fair. He voted for him, then his next post suggested that we shouldn't be too hasty and give Scar time to defend himself, which is a reasonable comment.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 10:02 am 
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Then he's a hypocrite for voting for him after saying we should give him more time. Either way, my suspicion stands.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 11:17 am 
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Scar wrote:
PenguinGuy wrote:
(1)Hmm, so your voting Rocks because he bread-crumbed?
(2)Also, Rocks never went after Tweedy :?:
(3)And while saying this, you don't even mention previous mistakes...


(1) I voted for Rockrocks because he had once again attacked a villager, and to me it seemed his potential role-claim was just a way for him to try and save himself.
(2)Sorry, meant Top.
(3) I didn't mention any other mistakes, because everything that could be said about those had been said and there was no need to repeat them.


That seems like a slip-up to me, no one has been a confirmed villager yet. (rocks probably though) If you were referring to Top, why didn't you just say Top?


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 11:54 am 
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J@nr0k wrote:
Scar wrote:
PenguinGuy wrote:
(1)Hmm, so your voting Rocks because he bread-crumbed?
(2)Also, Rocks never went after Tweedy :?:
(3)And while saying this, you don't even mention previous mistakes...


(1) I voted for Rockrocks because he had once again attacked a villager, and to me it seemed his potential role-claim was just a way for him to try and save himself.
(2)Sorry, meant Top.
(3) I didn't mention any other mistakes, because everything that could be said about those had been said and there was no need to repeat them.


That seems like a slip-up to me, no one has been a confirmed villager yet. (rocks probably though) If you were referring to Top, why didn't you just say Top?


By Villager I mean member of the town, sorry if my wording threw you off there...

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PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 2:08 pm 
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Just because you don't believe him doesn't mean we should lynch a potential pro-town role. It's just not worth the risk, mkay.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 2:17 pm 
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Not sure I trust Rockrock's roleclaim. I agree that it's something someone could do last-minute to avoid a lynch, but I also know that I tried to do the same as a detective once (and got lynched in four hours). Not really sure how this'll pan out, so I'll just Unvote.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 2:58 pm 
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Well, this'll be short because I have homework before I have to go to work, but my gut instinct on Scar is that he has tunnel vision (this seems eerily similar to some things I've done). However, I've been absent for a lot of this and will probably be absent for the end of the day, so I'll be changing my vote to Scar for the sake of a lynch. Tunnel vision or not, you don't press harder when someone hints at a role (basically, same reason as Monk, which was J@n's reasoning first). Also, I'm not too happy with the defenses presented, and won't be around to see anymore today.

My next choice though is J Assassin, who it seems like isn't providing much this game. He's been pretty aggressive without saying much. Needless to say, I'm suspicious of Top Too, but I'm not going to beat that horse.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 3:41 pm 
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Sweep wrote:
Got to agree with Scar here.

FoS: Paidea

Very quick to jump on Rocksrocks and Scar.

Hypocrisy in italics. You quite blatantly just bandwagoned without any comment of your own.

@Tahu: Why did you address the rockrocks issue, but not the Scar one? What are your reasons, if any, for not voting for Scar?

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PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 4:19 pm 
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PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 4:24 pm 
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Paidea wrote:
Sweep wrote:
Got to agree with Scar here.

FoS: Paidea

Very quick to jump on Rocksrocks and Scar.

Hypocrisy in italics. You quite blatantly just bandwagoned without any comment of your own.

@Tahu: Why did you address the rockrocks issue, but not the Scar one? What are your reasons, if any, for not voting for Scar?

~Paidea


I to would like an explanation from Sweep.

Since it looks like I very well could die, when i turn up innocent look at Sweep. That would be quite the cover story if he(?) jumped in to try and defend me/side with me before I was lynched. If Sweep is Mafia, he would know I'm a townie and thus would know it was safe to defend me and make himself look pro-town when I come up innocent.

Also, this seems to bear saying now since we are down to 2 hours left, and this is going to make me look real stupid. But I am the Town Drunk, each night I can choose one person and block any and all powers they may have.

I can block a night kill, if the person I choose is the one sent to kill.

I know, I know. Desperate grasping at straws and all that...

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PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 4:36 pm 
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Oh shi-

Unvote

Town Drunk is a role straight from Epicmafia. Mentos plays there frequently. I believe you.

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PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 4:42 pm 
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Well, I'm at a loss of what to do. This is getting extremely ridiculous.

Sweep Placeholder vote

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia. Day 2. Another store owner was lost.
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 4:57 pm 
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Unvote.

I am LITERALLY holding my vote to stop any and all future desperate roleclaims. :?:

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