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 Post subject: Server Moving [TEMORARY FORUMS - Please see last post]
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 6:56 am 
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Hiker received a message from our host, which will most likely affect you as well:
Our hosting company wrote:
"We are planning on turning this server over to the datacenter at approximately 12:00 am (Midnight) on Thursday, November 13 to 12:00 am (Midnight) on Saturday, November 15, 2008. Since the known exploit does not affect databases, please backup any databases that you would like us to restore once the server comes back online. This server will be completely wiped of all data. If you do not have backups of your files, please let us know and we can search our reserve for backups."


For those of you who didn't see the previous global: the server security was breached and a malware distributing script was ran on the server. What this means for you? If you were on the server two days ago and had problems with your computer or saw strange things happening to it: make sure you scan it for malware! To be safe: even scan if you're not experiencing anything wrong!

What this is going to mean for us, will be that the server is going to be down for quite a while and once it gets up again, we're not sure whether all data is still going to be on it. Therefore it's best not to post any big things on the forum for now, because we'll most likely be unable to store it. I'll be making a backup of our database about 5 hours before they're going to do the moving (I have an exam this Friday, so I won't be staying online till it is going to take place), but that backup won't guarantee nothing is going to be lost.

RuneVillage will be the first site that is going to be restored, as requested by hiker, but seeing it is most likely also the biggest site, it'll most likely take the longest. We're not yet sure of whether we're going to set up an alternate location for the forum and everything or not. I could perhaps lend my own website for the forum and chat system, but I'm not too sure about that yet.
EDIT: we can't guarantee anything about how long it is going to take, but it could very well take over a day (although I personally doubt that). Apparently this attack infected almost their complete data center...

We apologise for any inconvenience, but seeing this is the best way to get rid of that security breach, I'm sure you'll understand it.

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 8:24 am 
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Ok, I'll make sure to save my Wood 'n Wood main post tonight.

What time do you think the website is going to be down?
(I didn't really understand the quote from the company...)

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 8:29 am 
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It can be anywhere from I guess 12 hours to 2 days, according to it, starting on midnight in whatever timezone the host is. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 8:46 am 
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It can be anywhere from I guess 12 hours to 2 days, according to it, starting on midnight in whatever timezone the host is. :P


OK, now what timezone is the host in? I think it's in the US...

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 9:19 am 
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So...midnight on the 13th would have been last night. Has this happened already and is it fixed now or is it going to happen at midnight tonight, which actually is the 14th?

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 12:33 pm 
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Okay, an update to the situation: it *is* still going to happen Zilla. All the data is most likely going to be lost, but I'm taking back-ups to prevent that from happening.

I'll be hosting the forum on my own website in about 4 hours or so. This will be done in a short transition period. I'll do my very best to make sure nothing is going to get lost. Seeing the host will just be using its latest backup it took, there's bound to be a rollback in their system. Hopefully I'll be able to prevent just that.

Also people: when the site comes back online, it's best not to go post there because I'll most likely wipe out the database then and put the database from my own site (where our forum will be put for the time being) there. That way theoretically speaking you shouldn't lose any changes/posts you make.

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 12:39 pm 
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I've saved the RVBB Topic in notepad just in case :D

Thanks for everything, Glod :D

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PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 12:40 pm 
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If you need any extra storage space, I've got a University-run FTP site that I can help store things on. I doubt you'll need it, but I thought I'd throw that out there. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 1:03 pm 
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I will save my 2 prize possesion threads now.

Thanks for the heads up :P

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 4:04 pm 
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Bad news: it's way too hard to really take backups of all database tables.

Good news: the backup of our site is of only 2 days ago. Therefore I'm going to focus on the posts that were made in the past 2 days and I'll try to get those back on the server once it's back.

Please though make backups of any important posts you edited/made the past 2 to 3 days!

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PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 4:24 pm 
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So, when is forum and chat going to be transferred to your site?

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 4:34 pm 
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It isn't. I tried to transfer it, but it was simply too big to transfer it in the ways possible. I'll probably ask Frogger whether we're allowed to use his temporary forum once again.

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 4:47 pm 
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wait, so only the 2 day old posts will be deleated... Hope you figure it out soon, :(

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PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 4:48 pm 
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Yes, if the host can keep up to his word, we'll have a rollback of only 2 days, which is reasonable.

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Will the main site be down as well? Or just the forums?

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PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 4:56 pm 
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The whole server will be down. So the forums, chat, site, ... will *all* be down.

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 Post subject: Re: Server moving: we'll be offline and data loss possible!!
PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 5:00 pm 
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update....

the host has given us a way to maybe download the entire database in one whack.... i'm going to give it a try right now -- 5pm CST... and we will be subject to go down at anytime after that....

we will need to be offline again while i make the backup....

but that will give us a single file that we can restore... and posts between now and and when we come back, including ones on Glodenox's temp server will be lost.

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PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 5:00 pm 
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So... It went down already... Since it wasn't for too long though, I'm guessing it didn't actually get moved?

EDIT: Saw hiker's post. Okey :D

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PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 5:02 pm 
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Nope, the actual "going down" will be for in about 5 hours from this post if I've got my calculations right.

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PostPosted: November 13th, 2008, 5:20 pm 
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Okay, I'm slightly confused... Are we gonna be dead for possibly 2 days or are we gonna go somewhere? And if so, wheres that going to be? And when will that be up and running?
Sorry for so many questions.

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