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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 2:19 am 
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What the heck? o_O

I see in Staff Lounge a leaving post from Shando and then he gets Admin. Nothing against Shando, but many other people deserve their chance to do good for the village, someone who wants to leave and then gets promoted is not a good idea. For once, I think I agree with Sarah. And mogo getting staff admin, there's really no difference from what he was before. You're a noob mogo.

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Agreed for once.

Mogo's new rank, not really a whole big issue, he was an admin before, he's just a different kind of admin now, he earned the rank before so there is no reason he doesnt deserve a rank on the same level now.

In my opinion there are many more deserving board mods that should have got admin before Shando, he abandoned the village basically saying the community sucked and now he is given a position of greater power for no apparent reason and you expect the users to respect him when he has shown little to no respect for the village itself? I know Hiker doesn't want users to leave but this isn't the way to solve that, the admin rank should be given because it's deserved and someone willing to abandon the village just because it's going through a bad time does not deserve it.

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PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 8:34 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
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Mogo's new rank, not really a whole big issue, he was an admin before, he's just a different kind of admin now, he earned the rank before so there is no reason he doesnt deserve a rank on the same level now.


Except for the fact that there's quite a few more deserving members to get that position, ones who've earned it, and didn't just take it as a bribe.


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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 10:28 am 
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Sarah wrote:

Mogo's new rank, not really a whole big issue, he was an admin before, he's just a different kind of admin now, he earned the rank before so there is no reason he doesnt deserve a rank on the same level now.


Except for the fact that there's quite a few more deserving members to get that position, ones who've earned it, and didn't just take it as a bribe.

You misunderstand the nature of Mogo's position. He is effectively Chat Staff Admin, as he will be focusing on technical issues that arise with the Chat, as well as finishing up the new Chat.

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PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 10:32 am 
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Sarah wrote:

Mogo's new rank, not really a whole big issue, he was an admin before, he's just a different kind of admin now, he earned the rank before so there is no reason he doesnt deserve a rank on the same level now.


Except for the fact that there's quite a few more deserving members to get that position, ones who've earned it, and didn't just take it as a bribe.

You misunderstand the nature of Mogo's position. He is effectively Chat Staff Admin, as he will be focusing on technical issues that arise with the Chat, as well as finishing up the new Chat.

As long as it doesn't take up a space that someone who does behind-the-scenes work deserves, I retract my statement. :-s

EDIT: And also, why not just stay chat admin?


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PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 11:19 am 
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Im just a clanchat-goer abd not very into the forums but from what Ive seen shando is ... welll..... not deserving at all :-s

"oh wow im sad i leave yay i get admin" & all he does on the forums is make useless posts with like no grammer lol

like 1000 siad nothing against you but you shando but hiker made a rlly bad decisionwith this

and wtf@mogolol u did the same thing quite and get new rank just stay chat admin power hungry your always mean to me in cc to :x

thats rlly funny tweedy "oh i work on 1 project for rv yay i get admin" wtf lol a5chow neded tons before she got it why do you get it on 1 XDDD!!

forums r going downhill atleast cc is still good :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 11:25 am 
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thats rlly funny tweedy "oh i work on 1 project for rv yay i get admin" wtf lol a5chow neded tons before she got it why do you get it on 1 XDDD!!

Mogo was already an admin. He just switched from Chat Admin to Forum Admin.

And as for Shando's grammar, that's a case of the pot calling the kettle black. :-s

Hoof, I think he and Hiker both felt that it made his actual position clearer.

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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
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Anyway.
Staff Admin means you're more or less in charge of running the behind-the-scenes stuff, like Glodenox. Mogo is not that. By making him a staff admin, it doesn't make his position clearer, it just makes the people behind-the-scenes angry that someone got the position they deserve for no justifiable reason. :-s
(and that's not just my assumption, there's quite a few behind-the-sceners who are not impressed at all with this new promotion. :-s )


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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 11:36 am 
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Tweeker wrote:
Mogo was already an admin. He just switched from Chat Admin to Forum Admin.

And as for Shando's grammar, that's a case of the pot calling the kettle black. :-s

Hoof, I think he and Hiker both felt that it made his actual position clearer.


Mogo switched from Chat to Staff, silly!

And I think he might be referencing Mogo's grammar, actually.

I must say that I agree with Hoof on the matter of Chat Admin vs. Staff Admin. The Chat Administrator is what it sounds like: an "Administrator of the Chat." A Staff Administrator is an "Administrator of the main site, projects and village staff." (Both descriptions taken from the usergroup descriptions)

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You misunderstand the nature of Mogo's position. He is effectively Chat Staff Admin, as he will be focusing on technical issues that arise with the Chat, as well as finishing up the new Chat.


No offense, but that does not sound like a Staff Administrator to me at all. When I think of a Staff Admin, I think of someone who is involved in all of RuneVillage's behind the scenes work (Guides, Database, Website, etc.), not just one area. However, a Chat Admin seems to be someone who focuses on the chat, including overseeing upgrades and bug fixes, which pretty much matches what you said he'll be in charge of. I know that he's a part of updating RuneVillage to make it better, but that doesn't mean that's Staff Admin material.

Edit: Why does Hoof always beat me D:


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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
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Edit: Why does Hoof always beat me D:

Because I'm awesome. :shifty:

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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 1:11 pm 
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roflmao

Im just a clanchat-goer abd not very into the forums but from what Ive seen shando is ... welll..... not deserving at all :-s

"oh wow im sad i leave yay i get admin" & all he does on the forums is make useless posts with like no grammer lol

like 1000 siad nothing against you but you shando but hiker made a rlly bad decisionwith this




Ok, seriously, who do you think you are? Gods gift to mankind? You have been at RV a day and your judging the likes of Shando and Hiker to whether they made good decisions or deserve promotions? Sorry, but you don't know Shando AT ALL. You do not have any right to comment on his grammer, or whether he is deserving of his new rank, or whether his posts are useless. No right.

Sorry to be harsh to a new member but seriously. Don't go judging people you know nothing about.

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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 3:11 pm 
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Whoa, so they leave for a little while and get promotions..... Does that mean if I finally come back after such a long absence, I become a deity? :D

Kidding. Nice one you guys. Me stop spotlight stealing now. Bad Avian.


You can re-become the deity again, you are an elder and former admin :P (Please do, by the way)

And H K, I agree, but there are people who browse around while not posting, as well as the people who make second accounts. I'm not making an accusation, just showing the benifit of the doubt.

EDIT: But, and I'm not sure if this should be public, pepsi matches the user Sacred Soldier.

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 Post subject: Re: Cha-cha-cha- changes....
PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 5:09 pm 
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OK, to answer a few queries here (This is the first time I've had access to a computer, I've been using my PSP to post for the last few days).

Frogger wrote:
What the heck? o_O

I see in Staff Lounge a leaving post from Shando and then he gets Admin. Nothing against Shando, but many other people deserve their chance to do good for the village, someone who wants to leave and then gets promoted is not a good idea. For once, I think I agree with Sarah. And mogo getting staff admin, there's really no difference from what he was before. You're a noob mogo.

Nate


Since I left my original positing I have been in constant communication with Hiker. The main thing was that I was going to continue working on the RV Chat, and remain behind the scenes on it. However I didn't want to have the responsibilty of making sure it was modding accordingly, and modding it myself. the main reason being that I'm jus not active enough in there anymore. However, it is very difficult to work on the Chat without having an active role in the mod community, and especially is you can't access the appropriate mod/admin forums (it makes communicating with the people you need almost impossible). Therefore hiker offered me a different position. He actually offered me the title of well... anything. I didn't want Chat Admin, as I'm not fulfilling the same role as Tweedy. I didn't want Forum Admin, because obviously, I'm not looking at the forums. And I didn't actually want Asst Staff Admin, because I don't really think that suits me either, plus it sounds like I'm part of Glode's team, when in fact, it's more of a case of I'm operating on my own steam. Staff Admin was just the best chocie for now, but it could change.

As for taking another staff members rank away, this is far from true. I won't be working on the main site, so if there is a position there that needs forefulling glode will highlight it, and something will be done about it. if you have any quieries on that, please bring them up with glode. I am not really affiliated with the "Staff" usergroups, so he would be best to ask.

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Whoa, so they leave for a little while and get promotions..... Does that mean if I finally come back after such a long absence, I become a deity? :D

Kidding. Nice one you guys. Me stop spotlight stealing now. Bad Avian.


Avian, you'd always be welcome back.

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roflmao

Im just a clanchat-goer abd not very into the forums but from what Ive seen shando is ... welll..... not deserving at all :-s

"oh wow im sad i leave yay i get admin" & all he does on the forums is make useless posts with like no grammer lol

like 1000 siad nothing against you but you shando but hiker made a rlly bad decisionwith this

and wtf@mogolol u did the same thing quite and get new rank just stay chat admin power hungry your always mean to me in cc to :x

thats rlly funny tweedy "oh i work on 1 project for rv yay i get admin" wtf lol a5chow neded tons before she got it why do you get it on 1 XDDD!!

forums r going downhill atleast cc is still good :mrgreen:


Your view of a user deserving a rank is fine, but i have to say that you are either one of these two things if that opinion is true:
  1. If you are are aware of Shando, you'd of been registered here for longer than your couple of days, therefore, you must be speaking on someone's behalf.
  2. The reason you are aware of shando, is because you are posting on a second account, which is against RV rules. your IP can be traced, so if this is true, i will give you a couple days to contact me if so

Secondly, your comments about me. firstly I have worked on A LOT more than 1 project over the 5 years I have been here at RV. I've held the rank staff, for 3 of these years.

I am wondering about your comment on my acts in the CC aswell. I rarely enter the CC. I haven't played RS properly for... 3 years? I am never in the CC unless I'm eXtremely bored, there's a new udpate that interests me, or there's an event. So i would have to say your accusation is false. If you do feel that i mistreat you in chat, why have you not raised this with an administrator? We always ask users, or even mods, to make any reports against staff, so that we can make sure we keep RV a fun, and safe community for all it's users.

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PostPosted: July 21st, 2008, 9:50 pm 
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Since I left my original positing I have been in constant communication with Hiker. The main thing was that I was going to continue working on the RV Chat, and remain behind the scenes on it. However I didn't want to have the responsibilty of making sure it was modding accordingly, and modding it myself. the main reason being that I'm jus not active enough in there anymore. However, it is very difficult to work on the Chat without having an active role in the mod community, and especially is you can't access the appropriate mod/admin forums (it makes communicating with the people you need almost impossible). Therefore hiker offered me a different position. He actually offered me the title of well... anything. I didn't want Chat Admin, as I'm not fulfilling the same role as Tweedy. I didn't want Forum Admin, because obviously, I'm not looking at the forums. And I didn't actually want Asst Staff Admin, because I don't really think that suits me either, plus it sounds like I'm part of Glode's team, when in fact, it's more of a case of I'm operating on my own steam. Staff Admin was just the best chocie for now, but it could change.

As for taking another staff members rank away, this is far from true. I won't be working on the main site, so if there is a position there that needs forefulling glode will highlight it, and something will be done about it. if you have any quieries on that, please bring them up with glode. I am not really affiliated with the "Staff" usergroups, so he would be best to ask.


I know that you noob. I really just wanted to give you a hard time.. Of course you deserve the position, and if you were as active as you once were, you should get assist. site admin. I know you'd do good with the site. But my opinions were pointed more to what Sarah has been saying. Btw, give me a call once in a while, I feel bad calling you and you telling me how much it costs. :P

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Btw, give me a call once in a while, I feel bad calling you and you telling me how much it costs. :P

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Last months phone bill was about... £53... £18 of that was one call to you. I get this months, and it's £38, no calls to you. Lol.

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Btw, give me a call once in a while, I feel bad calling you and you telling me how much it costs. :P

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Last months phone bill was about... £53... £18 of that was one call to you. I get this months, and it's £38, no calls to you. Lol.



urm why don't you just use skype to talk to each other for FREE ?

an gratz mogomongoose i can see ur cool avatar you was talking about now :P

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PostPosted: July 22nd, 2008, 8:07 am 
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