A Thriffic Mafia - Village WIN

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** September 13th, 2016, 3:37 pm

SparkyAMS wrote:

Jackstick wrote:

You're just giving me this weird feeling, Pyro3000.

Spirographed wrote:

You

.

If you wanna lie thats fine by me, but I have no reason to listen to you anymore.

UNVOTE SPIRO

PYRO

Just because Frank "maybe" sent you a message on thought about Top, how in the world does that make him guilty?

It doesn't, nor did I say it did. His immediate assault on Spiro made me suspicious. I picked one of the two to slam with my false claim. I chose Spiro. Spiro has cleared himself in my eyes and I'm using the way things went down after my claim to make my decision from there.

I assume most players realize how ridiculous it is that Frank would not only have an ability that HANDS the game to the villagers. If I claimed it on a random player, then everyone would just go after me. Claim it on a person that already has a vote, and you see a more varied reaction. The mafia won't care how ridiculous a claim it is. They would want to finish the lynch because it's only a vote or two away. The villagers are more inclined to be nervous and back away.

You and Top were the ones on the lynch train for Spiro. If Spiro is a villager and there was a mafia left that hadn't voted for him, I'd think they would have tried to seal the deal knowing that they could then take me out the next day by blaming me for what happened. A thought that you yourself even voiced.

I'm down for lynching either you or Top. I'm suspicious of both of you, and would shift my vote in an instant to you if you got up to 3 votes.from other players.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** September 13th, 2016, 3:38 pm

And as a note, your vote for me right after I mention being suspicious of you both but while voting for Topsummoner just drives my suspicions further.

Sighence · **Posted:** September 13th, 2016, 8:52 pm

Nah, Sparky saying what the mafia could do is something he's done as a villager, I can't hold that against him, and that looks like the lynchpin (

) to your argument for him at the moment.

I'd vote for Pyro, but 'Pyro doing crazy stuff' is also established Villager play.

Jack for now. Really it's because he's the one I can't really get a read on in general, and the others I might like have been less active than me.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 11:57 am

Pyro3000 wrote:

I assume most players realize how ridiculous it is that Frank would not only have an ability that HANDS the game to the villagers. If I claimed it on a random player, then everyone would just go after me. Claim it on a person that already has a vote, and you see a more varied reaction. The mafia won't care how ridiculous a claim it is. They would want to finish the lynch because it's only a vote or two away. The villagers are more inclined to be nervous and back away.

You're jumping to a whole lot of conclusions. I suspected from the start that Frank was full of Fuzzy Bunny

no matter what he sent you, and I made this clear.

Spiro's reactions to being pressured were suspicious. They're still suspicious really.

Everything in my gut is telling me to vote for you but my brain is telling me you're just misguided in your approach again. :>_<:

Why do you have to make this so difficult for us?

SparkyAMS wrote:

There's literally a role called "neutral villager", so... But anyway, Spiro.

If pyro's lieing, we'll just lunch him tomorow?

This is pretty bad for a 3/4 vote, especially when I had JUST asked you to 'weigh in', which this hardly qualifies as. It also displays a pretty bad understanding of the situation; Pyro's 'information' came from Frank so he had kind of divorced himself from the responsibility of the lynch going sour.

I'm going to vote for Sparky.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 1:11 pm

Participants
1. Jackstick - nobody
2. Topsummoner - Sparky
3. Spirographed - Survivor? - Pyro3000
4. Frank 4.0.1 - Killed Night 1
5. Sighence - Jackstick
6. Aragorn Ix
7. SparkyAMS - Pyro3000
8. Pyro3000 - Topsummoner

I'm a bit nervous about this. Spread votes are going to let the mafia pick us off one by one unless the doctor is really good at guessing night targets.

We need to keep in mind that if Spiro is telling the truth that he gets to decide the game if it gets down to 3 villager 2 mafia. Right now we're at 5 villager 2 mafia.

Tomorrow we're likely at 4 villager 2 mafia, and if we misslynch tomorrow it's 3:2 before night for a mafia win to 2:2

Even if the doctor makes 1 block, we're screwed because of Spiro's survivor role.

Starting with 8 people really hurt us.

I'm going to unvote and then vote Sparky

He was on my suspicion list to begin with and this brings him and I to 2 votes each. Meaning 2 votes to kill. I really don't think we should let this night go without a lynch. We should view this as being down 2 people right now. Not just 1.

Spirographed · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 1:26 pm

Just so it doesn't seem like I'm the final hammer on something, I'll be the 3rd, instead of the 4th for Sparky.

I will say that I do deem him suspicious, as I've already stated. However, I would like to point out that I am prone to more frivolity in my voting, because of my position as neutral. THAT SAID: I'm not kidding when I say I'm for the town on this one. I will vote with and for town as I deem fit. I'm sick of not being town.

Not sure why my reaction to Pyro is suspicious, though? It was absolutely ridiculous to assume that Frank had all that ability AND got his info passed along on the night that he died. The ones who rolled with Pyro's push on me are just as dumb as he is (if he turns out Town).

Topsummoner · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 1:56 pm

Okay, where do I start with you? I guess with your most recent post.

Spirographed wrote:

Just so it doesn't seem like I'm the final hammer on something, I'll be the 3rd, instead of the 4th for Sparky.

"I'm going to avoid doing something suspicious but announce that I'm doing it specifically to not be suspicious. This isn't suspicious right?"

Quote:

Not sure why my reaction to Pyro is suspicious, though? It was absolutely ridiculous to assume that Frank had all that ability AND got his info passed along on the night that he died. The ones who rolled with Pyro's push on me are just as dumb as he is (if he turns out Town).

Well let's look at that then.

Spirographed wrote:

A *KNOWN* *VILLIAN* FROM *ANOTHER* *TOWN*?!
Hahahaha

Pyro you are executioner, possibly? Are you seriously suggesting a role that can investigate and send messages on the night they die? Executioner or jester? Whatever it is, I'd be willing to bet you are the Village Evil role.

Aragorn, I have nothing to explain. I would encourage any investigative role to check me out tonight, before jumping on this stupid train.

Oh my god, you (Pyro) suck for voting for me!

Please detective, investigate me tonight! I promise I'm not the godfather!

Spirographed wrote:

WAIT A MINUTE.
THE NAME OF THE DAY IS "LETTERS UNSENT"!!!!

I really think Pyro is jester at this point. I'm not really against killing him, still, tbh. I don't know, though. I feel like Thr's jester's win result could be different than our norm.

Meh. Vote stands.

Taking the flavor of the thread title as evidence is REALLY grasping at straws. The messenger is dead, future letters will be unsent. You went on to KEEP bringing this point up as if it matters.

Spirographed wrote:

Ok, well, since you're all being idiots, here it is:

I'm the Village Neutral. I'm survivor. I'll be hosting next game, because I'm sick of not being town. Legit frustrated with it.

I, being the neutral, had/have every intention of helping the town win. Everything I've said can be taken at face value. CAN NOBODY SEE THE SUSPICION OF PYRO?!! COME. ON.

Can't fault you for roleclaiming under the pressure, but Survivor is about the safest thing you could possibly claim. It's really weak. And how upset you appear to be getting over getting lynched really does look like frustration for getting Mafia three times in a row.

I hate to jump off the lynch when it's so close to fruition, but I can't lynch Sparky in good conscience with Spiro on the train. I don't buy his claim, he's playing waaaaay too scummy.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 2:09 pm

Top I'm thinking you may intentionally be splitting the vote.

At this point I am 90% certain it's you and Sparky.

SparkyAMS · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 2:12 pm

Pyro3000 wrote:

Whether what Frank said was true or not is another story, but I have no choice but to assume.

Only one piece of information came out of this day and I "had no choice but to assume" that it wasn't all complete BS.

Topsummoner wrote:

Pyro is most likely telling the truth, the real question is whether Frank was. Knowing him I have my doubts, however...

At this point we should all know that Pyro's moves given the information available to him aren't always entirely rational. I think it's totally unreasonable from Spiro AND Jack to be suspecting him for this.

You think its odd that Spiro, (if he's innocent) would be a bit mad about someone lying about him? It's one thing to say you're suspicious of someone, its another to say you have un-verifiable proof that they are bad.

Topsummoner wrote:

Pyro's 'information' came from Frank so he had kind of divorced himself from the responsibility of the lynch going sour.

By this point you already knew Pyro had been lying. You can't not be responsible for a lynch train you start if it was all based on your own lies.

I've never really had a useful role before, and I guess I wasted it last night on Jack, I thought things might pile up at his house like last time, but I guess not.

Greetings from The Doctor.

And since it takes me like 15 minutes to make a post and Top just posted in front of me, Unvote Pyro

Aragorn Ix · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 2:21 pm

Well this is an absolute mess. Pyro, as useful a tactic you may think it is, making everyone immediately distrusting of you has yet to help the village in any of the games we've played...

For the record I think you're telling the truth (latterly) but I don't see any credible evidence to make a lynch on anyone. Especially not now Sparky has claimed doctor...

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 2:28 pm

unvote sparky vote Topsummoner

I feel like top and sparky just want to split the vote. Sparky. Could very easily be false claiming to cause confusion but at the same time he could be telling the truth or call out the real doctor and it would explain how "in the background" he was at first.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 2:40 pm

Participants
1. Jackstick - unknown
2. Topsummoner -unknown
3. Spirographed - survivor? Village Neutral (potentially the Village Evil?)
4. Frank 4.0.1 - Killed Night 1
5. Sighence - unknown
6. Aragorn Ix - unknown
7. SparkyAMS - doctor? Village Support
8. Pyro3000 - Spy? - Village Support

I may as well come clean about being a spy while everyone else is throwing their roles out. I can follow people around and see what they do at night.

Unfortunately I missed the first night phase because I didn't pay enough attention, so I don't have any information to give. It's a shame, too, because I was going to follow Jackstick out of N1 Jackstick obligation so I could have confirmed if Sparky showed up or not.

So we have Top, Jack, Aragorn, and Sighence with no role claim. Obviously detective is going to keep quiet as well as the Village Evil. But I suppose this theoretically narrows things down if everyone is being honest.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 3:14 pm

Alright, did some thinking.

Keeping my suspicion that Top is Godfather.

I feel like Jack unvoted for me legitimately concerned about a mislynch. Maybe he thought he coyld just investigate me the next night to be sure. He still seemed pretty suspicious of me when he unvoted.

Aragorn has been dead quiet and mentioned being inactive. I feel like he doesn't have anything special to his role at the moment. Possibly Mafia Goon or the Village Evil. Leaning Goon but for meta reasons that could be coincidence.

Sighence just feels... void to me. I don't think he has any ill intent, but at the same time he doesn't seem like he overly cares to help us either. So I'm inclined to think he's the Village Evil from that.

So right now if all the claims are true, Top and Aragorn seem like the mafia to me.

Sighence · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 6:11 pm

Eh, what the heck, sure.

Pyro called it (eventually). I'm the Village Evil role. I can, once a mafia has been killed, switch sides. I'll go one step further and ask for protection tonight because I'm now actively harmful for the mafia to try to keep around.

unvote Jack, vote Topsummoner

I've no reasons of my own, merely persuasion.

Sighence · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 6:16 pm

Hey everybody, post your role PMs!

Thr wrote:

Village Evil
Copycat - Growing up you never knew what you wanted to be. You had seen people do great things, changing the world for the better. This inspired you to do the best you could at everything you tried, people even started to recognize you as a prodigy. But something else you noticed was there hard work never paid off. Now crime on the other hand… Some people made it out big, and with your skills you think you could too. If only you had a chance.
(You can take up the role of a dead mafia member. Message me at night to do this)

On a side note - If the mafia leader is the one to die, the other mafia gets Leader and you get the other role. I know this is a bit weird, but this role would have been better with 3 mafia.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 6:56 pm

Sighence wrote:

Hey everybody, post your role PMs!

When has that EVER been okay? :?:

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 7:08 pm

I would argue that the doctor protecting you doesn't really help anyone but the mafia since you essentially turn into one later anyway unless you decide that villagers have this game in the bag.

Which at this point, I'm thinking we just might.

I guess I'll follow Jack tonight and see what he does. Given that everyone has a special role, he would only do nothing if he's mafia. If he does something other than stand around or kill someone then I guess that means the mafia really is Top and Aragorn.

Given that I'm fairly certain Top is godfather it's probably best he investigates Aragorn to get the confirmation.

Sparky should probably choose between myself and Jack to protect tonight but not say who it will be.

I guess Spiro and Sighence can basically be left alone at night for now since protecting them doesn't really benefit the village.

Naturally this all depends on if I can be trusted or not.

Best bet is probably for Jack to investigate Aragorn to confirm he's mafia. No doubt he'll say he is. After all between Jack, Top, and Aragon, two of them are mafia. If Aragorn isn't then Jack is. Which means we should probably then lynch top to get one mafia out of the way. If I survive I can verify if Jack is really the detective because I'll be watching him. So if Jack and I both survive and I can confirm that Jack was detective, we lynch Aragorn. Then we can go after Top, and if the game is still going we know that Sighence has switched.

Checkmate I guess.

I suppose the mafia will kill Sparky tonight to avoid getting blocked if they went after Jack or I. They basically need Spiro and Sighences cooperation at this point to win so even unguarded they may leave them alone.

So yeah current plan if Top survives today (highly likely right now) is to lynch Aragorn and then Top and then Sighence if needed.

Jackstick · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 7:17 pm

When did I become the detective??

Sighence · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 7:19 pm

Topsummoner wrote:

Sighence wrote:

Hey everybody, post your role PMs!

When has that EVER been okay? :?:

This game. Peep the edit time on the OP (note the new rule 12) and then my post's time and take a guess on whether that's a coincidence.

SparkyAMS · **Posted:** September 14th, 2016, 7:21 pm

It's a, common rule?

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