A Very British Mafia [Town Wins]

Dr Henry · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 7:39 pm

Muscular Ape wrote:

For further clarification, the above musings don't include Day 1 votes. They mean little to me as Day 1 is fun time. I would, however, go as far as to say that that would be the most likely time for mafia to vote for each other. In that sense, only Riptide voted for Thr from the above combinations.

I'm really tempted to just vote Thr and be done with it.

We are in a pretty troubling position though. If Thr is indeed mafia, I think he is paired with either Monk & Riptide, meaning if you and I both agreed to lynch Thr, we'd need one of them to jump on board. Highly unlikely that Monk will, and what if Thr is aligned with Riptide? Then it just won't happen at all.

If Thr and Riptide are the two mafia, then without Monk we have lost anyway.

If one of them is mafia with Monk, and we pick the wrong one, the other will hammer and we lose anyway.

Depends how confident you are in Thr being the most likely option?

Muscular Ape · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 7:41 pm

I think something that will solve every issue I'm agonising over, bar one, is waiting a reasonable time (it's still early Day) to see who Riptide votes for first.

Thr · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:07 pm

I've been played... I will give my explenations but its pointless. I haven't said anything about monk because I dislike voting for inactivity. Riptide has spoken a few times but nothing to hammer him on. I have come to the conclusion Sighence is town but he was gone for atleast a 2 day gap meaning he couldn't have done anything as mafia at that time. I don't think a mafia member wouldn't check in for that long. Now trusting Spiro I'm going to believe Ape it town aswell and say Riptide and Dr. Henry are mafia. So we are done for no matter what. I will go ahead and cast my vote for Riptide I have no evidence unless stated here.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:11 pm

Thr wrote:

I've been played... I will give my explenations but its pointless. I haven't said anything about monk because I dislike voting for inactivity. Riptide has spoken a few times but nothing to hammer him on. I have come to the conclusion Sighence is town but he was gone for atleast a 2 day gap meaning he couldn't have done anything as mafia at that time. I don't think a mafia member wouldn't check in for that long. Now trusting Spiro I'm going to believe Ape it town aswell and say Riptide and Dr. Henry are mafia. So we are done for no matter what. I will go ahead and cast my vote for Riptide I have no evidence unless stated here.

How much contradiction do you want in one post?

You have no evidence on Riptide yet will label him as mafia, yet with absolutely zero evidence you 'clear' Sighence, who hasn't even been here?

As I said Ape, refusing to vote for inactivity is a death sentence in every damn mafia game, yet nobody ever learns. It is laughable how easily the mafia get a pass if they just don't post.

Thr. If Riptide is your cohort and that is why you have suddenly turned on him, in the hopes of distancing yourself from him, then he wont vote for you and you win, but this is the only hope we have left.

Thr · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:18 pm

Ape take a carful look at everyone's posts. I'm pretty sure unless they were inactive everyone found somthing on Dr Henry at some point. And now its come down to this. I'm pretty sure the reason I was kept alive was for my flawed logic. And now its being used against me in the end. If we both vote the same we can atleast hope sighence will check in and vote. I don't have much else to say.

Muscular Ape · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:18 pm

Interesting.

From my perspective, I feel like town is screwed either way with the absence of Monk.

Monk is the easiest person to lynch as we have 4 active players and if he is aligned with one of them, only one will not vote, still giving us the majority. Hence he is an easy target.

Dr Henry & Riptide are the hardest two to lynch, because it will require Monk's vote no matter which combination Riptide may be apart of. Thr would be easier, because he is aligned with Monk then it only requires me, Dr Henry and Riptide. If he is aligned with Riptide, then it again requires Monk.

Me? I'd also be easy as Monk in theory. Wouldn't need his vote assuming everyone could be persuaded.

I'm going to think on this a little while and see if we can get Riptide's input (and perhaps if we're really lucky, Monk's) before I finalise my 'side'.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:21 pm

Thr wrote:

Ape take a carful look at everyone's posts. I'm pretty sure unless they were inactive everyone found somthing on Dr Henry at some point. And now its come down to this. I'm pretty sure the reason I was kept alive was for my flawed logic. And now its being used against me in the end. If we both vote the same we can atleast hope sighence will check in and vote. I don't have much else to say.

Being kept alive for your flawed logic?

It is D4. There have been three kills at night.

Market we have no idea about, except maybe activity.

Lander was clearly killed to frame me.

Spiro claimed doctor. There was no way mafia would choose killing you over him.

I don't really get your so called 'logic' though.

Thr · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:29 pm

Pk so say I realky am mafia and Riptide is my parttner. I'm voting. for HIM. Sighence is inactive meaning if both of you are town down a vote. But wait look I'm voting for my supposed partner. You can lynch him. If we are both mafia is there a difference??

Dr Henry · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:32 pm

Thr wrote:

Pk so say I realky am mafia and Riptide is my parttner. I'm voting. for HIM. Sighence is inactive meaning if both of you are town down a vote. But wait look I'm voting for my supposed partner. You can lynch him. If we are both mafia is there a difference??

So yes... you vote for him. He dies. He is mafia. You survive the night, kill me/ape, and appeal to the other that Monk is the last mafia as you can't possible vote for your teammate to save yourself -.-

Riptide · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:38 pm

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With that being said, it's time to go balls deep and lay out what I have on the table.

Kinky.

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Under the assumption that it is highly unlikely for one mafia member to cast suspicion on the other, let alone actually vote for the other member, I have come up with several possible mafia combinations. These combinations probably also work under the assumption that nobody has made some extremely ballsy moves (best example: Dr Henry killing Lander). This is also under the assumption that I am town which I obviously respect is not a given to anyone besides myself. I will add my own possible combinations (although you may feel more comfortable doing it yourself to ensure I'm not fibbing/misrepresenting!). Anyway, here they are:

1. Dr Henry & Riptide. Haven't voted for each other, haven't said a bad word about each other and in fact have defended each other at times.
2. Thr & Monk. Thr has avoided mentioning anything about Monk like the plague. Monk has said nothing which does not help.
3. Riptide & Thr. For 2 relatively active people, these guys have also avoided mentioning anything about each other.

You too, haven't voted for Doc yet, have you? You've not exactly been buddy-buddy with him, but you've not made an enemy out of him either. As for Monk, the guy's been inactive in the topic since D2, and I have no clue why that is. Maybe he got townie and said, " Fuzzy Bunny

it, this is boring, I don't wanna play." But if he's mafia, that's ballsy, being inactive. If he does continue being this inactive, we can lynch him as needed since I assume he won't bother to make a response.

Now then, Thr.
You vote for yourself at the beginning of Day 2 and I have no clue why. Perhaps you're trying to send a subtle "hay guiz I'm town I don't care if I get lynched" message, or maybe I'm reading into that vote too much. Fast forward to D3, and you go and hammer Sparky with little evidence of you own, while you typically voted with your own tidbits alongside the votes in the past. Granted, you did say you took Defeat's doctor claim into account, but we had no way of proving he was actually the doctor. He could've just been false claiming. Thr

Thr wrote:

Pk so say I realky am mafia and Riptide is my parttner. I'm voting. for HIM. Sighence is inactive meaning if both of you are town down a vote. But wait look I'm voting for my supposed partner. You can lynch him. If we are both mafia is there a difference??

Voting for someone doesn't necessarily mean you're not their mafia buddy. For all we know, that could be a ploy to get people off of your tail. (Ironically I say this as I vote for you.)

Thr · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:55 pm

I voted for spiro because I caught him in my failure of a trap. I then completely confused myself changed up my votes and didn't know what to think. And since everyone is questioning me I might as well ask why you have laid low almost this whole game with very few posts. I think you were to be the quite one while Henry stirred up the town. So if he got lyched you could take over from the shadows. a You posted just enough so Henrys rants for lynching inactive grazed off you and hit sighence, and sparky. What a coincidence...

Riptide · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 8:58 pm

Thr wrote:

I voted for spiro because I caught him in my failure of a trap. I then completely confused myself changed up my votes and didn't know what to think. And since everyone is questioning me I might as well ask why you have laid low almost this whole game with very few posts. I think you were to be the quite one while Henry stirred up the town. So if he got lyched you could take over from the shadows. a You posted just enough so Henrys rants for lynching inactive grazed off you and hit sighence, and sparky. What a coincidence...

Look at any of my previous games. If anything, I'm being abnormally active here. And, it's funny for you to call me that, considering how one of the vets in our midst hasn't posted since D1.

Muscular Ape · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 9:11 pm

What an awkward position I find myself in as RV newby. If I side with Riptide/Dr Henry and they're mafia, I've derped. If I side with Thr, I've derped.

It's hard to explain how I've arrived at my conclusion, but I'll give it my best shot.

I'm willing to scrap the Thr & Riptide combination considering Riptide would be insane to vote for him when realistically he and Thr could win today. This leaves Dr Henry/Riptide and Thr/Monk. Frustrating, as now really is a gamble numbers wise.

Here are my (perhaps final) thoughts:

Dr Henry has been giving me the benefit of the doubt the entire game, as well giving the same to Riptide whereas Thr has been all over the shop quite bluntly. However, and this is where it may seem bizarre, this leads me to think that Dr Henry is not on the level. He has successfully played a very clever game (up until this point) by taking advantage of the fact that I am new to RV Mafia. He has consistently given me the clear and sweet-talked me because he knows I am town, but additionally has done it so as to convince me that he too is town in return. Never trust someone who claims to be nearly certain of anyone's alignment. There's almost always an agenda.

Furthermore, as I was concerned once Thr voted Riptide, Dr Henry & Riptide are voting out Thr, who I mentioned earlier would be one of the easier targets. Dr Henry was never going to vote me to begin with, he needs me on his side; that would undo all his hard work throughout the game of indirectly convincing me he's town. He wanted to lynch Monk, but now that I've thrown my weight behind Thr (and backtracked) him and Riptide have joined 'my side' expecting me to hammer Thr and win the game for them.

With that being said, I now think Dr Henry & Riptide are the mafia. Well played to all involved, it's unlikely we'll get a lynch with Monk absent, but nonetheless:

Riptide

Dr Henry · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 9:15 pm

So... Stalemate?

I still think Monk and Thr are the mafia.

Ape, I must say that if you end up being mafia I will be extremely impressed for your first game... and scared for all future games.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 9:27 pm

You know what? No. Screw this.

I will not have the town lose because of a mafia pretending to be inactive. Monk was online just a few hours ago, he has had plenty of chances, days upon days, to post, and he has CHOSEN not to.

You three can think what you like, whichever one of you is his co-hort I do not expect to join me on this lynch. I don't care. When we lose, at least I can say I made the effort to kill the fake-inactive mafia.

Thr · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 9:36 pm

I did notice that aswell and it un nerved me. However either case (in my mind Riptide is mafia)

Riptide · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 9:38 pm

It might've just been me misreading an old set of rules when I started playing, but I've always thought you couldn't use outside information in a game?

Thr · **Posted:** February 5th, 2014, 10:53 pm

I'm pretty sure last game we had about the same situation and it was fine. I'm not 100% sure or anything since I don't make the rules.

Aragorn Ix · **Posted:** February 6th, 2014, 3:16 am

I consider using online activity as using outside game information, it's not allowed.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** February 6th, 2014, 6:36 am

He should have been replaced by now

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