Pirates, Mafia at Sea: THE MUTINY HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL!

Landerpurex · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 1:33 am

Oooooh derp. I forgot he was brig keeper. Well, for what it's worth, we were never notified of being roleblocked. :?:

It was Aragorn that carried out the kills anyway in the case of semantics.

So yeah, I wasn't keeping quiet about anything.

FYI, if I were pushed, I was going to claim that I was the stowaway. Was unsure if I was going to claim survivor type role, or nightkill-safe role.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 5:21 am

The only 'role' that was blocked by Scar was Top, and he was told. Vanilla roles weren't told about Scar's roleblock, only Top's.

List of roles/night actions will be up later.

Scar · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 2:49 pm

Sighence wrote:

Unless I'm misreading Brig-Keeper as something other than a roleblocker, Scar should've seen your silence on being roleblocked and at least done something, anything with that. I think I know what he was doing - thinking he was the only blocker and assuming my roleblock claim and thus my guilt from there. Iunno, maybe I'm reading hindsight into this a bit too much. Either way, I am displeased.

I was role-blocker and doctor combined, those I targeted couldn't be nightkilled, but they couldn't do anything else either.

And you are correct, I assumed a one role blocker game, I knew I hadn't targeted you so that combined with my general annoyance at that point made me vote for you.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 3:26 pm

Scar wrote:

Sighence wrote:

Unless I'm misreading Brig-Keeper as something other than a roleblocker, Scar should've seen your silence on being roleblocked and at least done something, anything with that. I think I know what he was doing - thinking he was the only blocker and assuming my roleblock claim and thus my guilt from there. Iunno, maybe I'm reading hindsight into this a bit too much. Either way, I am displeased.

I was role-blocker and doctor combined, those I targeted couldn't be nightkilled, but they couldn't do anything else either.

And you are correct, I assumed a one role blocker game, I knew I hadn't targeted you so that combined with my general annoyance at that point made me vote for you.

lolol

But really, there should probably not be two roleblocking roles in one game. Also, you were pretty much a jailer.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 4:41 pm

Landerpurex wrote:

Scar wrote:

Sighence wrote:

Unless I'm misreading Brig-Keeper as something other than a roleblocker, Scar should've seen your silence on being roleblocked and at least done something, anything with that. I think I know what he was doing - thinking he was the only blocker and assuming my roleblock claim and thus my guilt from there. Iunno, maybe I'm reading hindsight into this a bit too much. Either way, I am displeased.

I was role-blocker and doctor combined, those I targeted couldn't be nightkilled, but they couldn't do anything else either.

And you are correct, I assumed a one role blocker game, I knew I hadn't targeted you so that combined with my general annoyance at that point made me vote for you.

lolol

But really, there should probably not be two roleblocking roles in one game. Also, you were pretty much a jailer.

The way I saw it, Top's roleblocking wasn't THAT useful (he didn't have many targets who needed to be blocked except for Scar and Riptide), but people he visited would be aware of a role. Scar's targets would only be informed if they had something to do at night. What this would do, in theory, was make all parties believe that there were more roles than there actually were.

Also, by changing role names (Captain, Brig-Keeper, Look-Out), it opened up the possibility of claims not being believed, or fake claims being made.

After some of the previous 'normal' games were basically role-heavy variants, I tried to be clever and flip it around, by calling it a variant, giving it a theme, and some fancy role names, but essentially it was a normal game. My aim was that the main variant bit would be that everyone would ASSUME it was a variant, and expect things to be different so play slightly wary of this. I don't know how well this was achieved, especially with the poor activity and short gametime.

Balancing games is also difficult.

Would love to hear some people tell me what they thought of the set-up as a whole, disregarding the fact that it was a 3-day game.. was this due to poor balancing, or good play by the Mutineers?

I had, in effect, this setup:

Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Jailkeeper
Double Voter
Watcher/Tracker (look at a person's door, if they leave, follow them, if they stay, see who enters... only every other night though - possibly could have made it every night)
Strong Swimmer - I don't know the normal name... essentially Godders would have come back aboard the morning of the day AFTER the day after he was lynched, as long as the Lookout (Riptide) was still alive to spot him swimming behind the ship.
Day One Drunk (with a night one invulnerability and muting power)
Mafia Godfather (Aragorn asked me if he was immune to night investigation... I told him no because I didn't want to reveal the fact that we didn't actually have a detective, but he was the sole person who could send in night kills)
Mafia Roleblocker (Prostitute/Wench)
Mafia Goon

Scar · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 4:53 pm

So, do we have a person up for the next game? If not...I'm free still

Kikori · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 5:09 pm

Dr Henry wrote:

Also, by changing role names (Captain, Brig-Keeper, Look-Out), it opened up the possibility of claims not being believed, or fake claims being made.

After some of the previous 'normal' games were basically role-heavy variants, I tried to be clever and flip it around, by calling it a variant, giving it a theme, and some fancy role names, but essentially it was a normal game. My aim was that the main variant bit would be that everyone would ASSUME it was a variant, and expect things to be different so play slightly wary of this. I don't know how well this was achieved, especially with the poor activity and short gametime.

Balancing games is also difficult.

Welcome to my world. I don't think I've hosted a game that didn't feature the problems listed above when making.
You didn't do bad. Drunk power player with a role potentially suicidal to claim, two Mutineers with a power play against a power player, you not in the game, and not enough actual discussion that was probably due to some lack of interest / availability.
(I had to work after my day three post. I didn't have much chance to post more than that. x.x)

Aragorn Ix · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 5:30 pm

So that was why I wasn't immune to negative investigations. All makes sense now.

Kikori · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 5:53 pm

I'll be honest, that kind of shocks me. No Crow's Nest liver. Riptide's situational watching / tracking was the closest we had to investigation, and to only have... what, one night it could be used to any effect? That was, for better or worse, a tad crippling.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 8:04 pm

I forget what the order was. I know I'm signed on for a variant, but I'm not actually done making it :X

Someone dig up the list.

Scar · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 8:59 pm

This seems to be the most recent list

Monk - normal
Jaron - variant - ongoing
Scar - Normal
Dr Henry - variant?
Topnub - Variant under construction.
Godders - Normal
Kikori - Normal

I had originally intended to host in May, but wasn't ready so I delayed my turn. Since Top isn't ready currently it should be either Kikori or myself.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** August 2nd, 2012, 11:12 pm

Add me and Market to that list. We have a variant but it needs more time.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** August 3rd, 2012, 12:18 am

I say go ahead Scar, then.

Scar · **Posted:** August 3rd, 2012, 1:47 pm

Monk - normal
Jaron - variant - ongoing
Scar - Normal
Dr Henry - variant?
Topnub - Variant under construction.
Godders - Normal
Kikori - Normal
Lander & Market - Variant under construction.

Sounds good to me Top, if no one has any objections I'll get a normal game plan together and put the sign up topic up this weekend.

Riptide · **Posted:** August 3rd, 2012, 1:51 pm

Scar wrote:

Monk - normal
Jaron - variant - ongoing
Scar - Normal
Dr Henry - variant?
Topnub - Variant under construction.
Godders - Normal
Kikori - Normal
Lander & Market - Variant under construction.

Sounds good to me Top, if no one has any objections I'll get a normal game plan together and put the sign up topic up this weekend.

I'll gladly host again sooner or later, and I promise to put a bit more effort again.

Market Man6 · **Posted:** August 3rd, 2012, 5:58 pm

Yours wasn't bad rip!

Riptide · **Posted:** August 3rd, 2012, 8:27 pm

Market Man6 wrote:

Yours wasn't bad rip!

Ah, but it didn't really have any story or anything. I could put that in next time around.

Saten Ruiko · **Posted:** August 4th, 2012, 8:57 am

Landerpurex wrote:

Add me and Market to that list. We have a variant but it needs more time.

I know I've already hosted but I have another variant for you guys if you're ever interested. The upside is that I don't expect it to last past Day 1, so you don't really lose any time if you decide to try it out. :awesome:

Topsummoner · **Posted:** August 4th, 2012, 9:58 pm

inb4 everyone is a Crazy Fuzzy Bunny

Kikori · **Posted:** August 4th, 2012, 11:02 pm

In before everyone suicide bombs.

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