Bifurcate Mafia: Game over, Village wins (twice)!

Dr Henry · **Posted:** May 27th, 2012, 5:37 pm

That's day over I believe.

Saten Ruiko · **Posted:** May 27th, 2012, 5:56 pm

It only took about half of the day for the Village to turn on Riptide. They felt his defenses were a bit substandard, and ultimately it would be his undoing.

Riptide was led to the gallows and hung. When his lifeless body was searched and another black knife found, the remaining townspeople sent forth a cheer of celebration.

Riptide - Mafia - Lynched Day 2

Two for two! It was surely the Mafia who were in trouble now. Could the Village go three for three the next day, or were they about to make their first slip-up?

Night 2 has begun
(ends ~7:00 AM on Tuesday the 29th)

Saten Ruiko · **Posted:** May 27th, 2012, 9:30 pm

The next morning, five people arrived in the Village center. This time it was Scar who was missing. The group headed for his house after a brief waiting period, but they already knew what was to come when they saw that his door was ajar. Scar's body was almost true to his own name, as he had been slashed wide open during the night.

Scar - Normal Villager - Slain Night 2

Five were left now, and despite the loss of life, things were looking fairly good for the Village as the finger-pointing began.

Day 3 has begun
(ends ~10:30 PM CST on Wednesday, May 30th)
5 players remain - 3 votes to lynch

Topsummoner · **Posted:** May 27th, 2012, 10:01 pm

Henry I'm sorry I doubted you.

If there's still a Detective, now would probably be a good time to claim. Two clears would probably make it very easy to determine who the last mafia is. Anyone else agree with this sentiment? Open to suggestions here.

Market Man6 · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 3:18 am

im ok with hearing something from the detective!

Dr Henry · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 5:41 am

Topsummoner wrote:

Henry I'm sorry I doubted you.

If there's still a Detective, now would probably be a good time to claim. Two clears would probably make it very easy to determine who the last mafia is. Anyone else agree with this sentiment? Open to suggestions here.

Which bit were you doubting me on? Riptide or Scar? o.O

Both of you are assuming we still have a detective... a debateable thing and something the last mafia could easily fakeclaim.

Since I know I'm villager, and have lead the lynch for the past two mafia, and I also believe Top to be villager, that means that there is now a 1/3 chance of finding the mafia out of Tahu, Aragorn and Market.

Now is the time for you three to roleclaim. An incorrect lynch, and death tonight, will put us at a last-day scenario where if the wrong choice is made, the town loses.

Aragorn Ix · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 9:00 am

Okay well I'm a villager with a roleblocking ability. On day 1 I blocked Tahu (thought he might be a mafia framer) and day 2 I blocked Doc Henry. Hopefully one of these two has a power role to verify my claim.

Tahu 1000 · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 9:04 am

I'm the detective, but unfortunately the only person I can clear is Market; I got roleblocked Night 1 (interestingly enough, Aragorn was my target that night). I can confirm Aragorn's ability but not his alignment. Speaking of which, Aragorn, why did you think I might be a mafia framer? That seems to be a rather specific role to suspect me of.

Aragorn Ix · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 9:19 am

Tahu 1000 wrote:

I'm the detective, but unfortunately the only person I can clear is Market; I got roleblocked Night 1 (interestingly enough, Aragorn was my target that night). I can confirm Aragorn's ability but not his alignment. Speaking of which, Aragorn, why did you think I might be a mafia framer? That seems to be a rather specific role to suspect me of.

Honestly it was a guess between you and Lander on percentages, as I figured there would be a framer if a detective had remained in the game. I still think a framer is in the game, because its a hugely imbalanced game otherwise in favour of the town.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 10:17 am

Market, do you have a role?

Market Man6 · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 12:06 pm

nope.
paraphrasing:
im back for round 2... i am a normal villager, and i will win once all the mafia are dead.

topsummoner
i am voting for him because i no longer believe his med student claim.
i dont believe we have a med student, because i dont believe we have a doctor. any doctor would have protected scar last night. the mafia do not need scar and monk around. since they are confirmed as being non mafia.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 12:13 pm

Market Man6 wrote:

nope.
paraphrasing:
im back for round 2... i am a normal villager, and i will win once all the mafia are dead.

topsummoner
i am voting for him because i no longer believe his med student claim.
i dont believe we have a med student, because i dont believe we have a doctor. any doctor would have protected scar last night. the mafia do not need scar and monk around. since they are confirmed as being non mafia.

Well I'm the Doctor. Care to rethink that.

Fact is, I DID protect Scar last night... and Aragorn was an utter idiot and roleblocked me.

Now I am torn between you, as I don't believe we have another normal villager, and Aragorn, as I don't see how swapping an Insomniac for a Roleblocker and adding an extra mafia will balance out the game.

I was leaning towards Aragorn as a mafia roleblocker though, and Tahu apparently cleared Market as a villager. I didn't roleclaim in my last post as I hoped you would try to claim Doctor so I would KNOW it was you...

I'll wait to hear back from everyone now we have all 'claims' out in the open.

Oh, and I'm allowed to protect myself tonight... who ya gonna pick mafia, me or Top?

Market Man6 · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 1:49 pm

oh! well then! unvote
im going with aragorn right now. you might call it a gut feeling, but i dont like the way he says tahu is a mafia framer, then 'defends' it by saying how if there was a detective, he would figure there was a framer as well.... but he never knew there was a detective at the time.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 1:52 pm

Roleblocker is a common mafia role, and it makes sense as a balancing factor in the game. I'm all for voting Aragorn.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 1:56 pm

Market Man6 wrote:

oh! well then! unvote
im going with aragorn right now. you might call it a gut feeling, but i dont like the way he says tahu is a mafia framer, then 'defends' it by saying how if there was a detective, he would figure there was a framer as well.... but he never knew there was a detective at the time.

If none of us are claiming detective, except Tahu, then he can't exactly be the mafia framer too. If he ISN'T detective, then why would there be a framer? Whereas there IS a roleblocker, as Aragorn roleblocked two of us now. Considering how there have been two mafia goons killed, without any role, the point of a pro-town roleblocker is practically non-existent... It would involve blocking multple pro-town roles in the hope that he would block the framer if he found him... and even then he wouldn't know that. It doesn't compute.

Therefore, I call Aragorn out as Mafia Roleblocker.

If I am wrong, it is between Market and Tahu tomorrow, with me leaning towards Market perhaps being the 'Godfather', a mafia role which some variations will return 'innocent' results to the detective.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 1:57 pm

Top ninja'd me as I was posting...

That's 3/5 though, Aragorn is gone.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 2:00 pm

I am fairly confident we're right on the money though.

Act One spread:

Villager
Villager
Villager
Detective
Doctor
Med Student
Insomniac

Mafia
Mafia

^ In the above spread, the mafia are grossly outmatched, with two investigative roles and a doctor + backup doctor.

(Hypothetical) Act Two Spread:

Villager
Villager
Villager
Detective
Doctor
Med Student

Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia
Mafia

This evens the game out considerably. The mafia have a numbers advantage, and the existence of the roleblocker keeps the town from winning with a 'follow the detective' strategy, as the detective can just be roleblocked. In addition, if the doctor's identity becomes known, he can just be roleblocked. If it were not for the Medical Student Role and the wisdom we gained from Act One, this would be a highly mafia-sided setup.

Ultimately, this makes perfect sense in my mind.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 2:03 pm

The follow the detective strategy would've been fine... as even a roleblocked detective would allow me to save Scar...

Sorry Scar, I DID try to save you. Even if you were probably behind killing me Night One last time, and have bested me on two prior occasions.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 2:04 pm

It would have been fine how the game turned out, but I'm talking in terms of initial circumstances. Had we not been able to deduce Lander and Riptide being mafia as quickly as we did, we would have been in a lot of trouble due to the Roleblocker.

Dr Henry · **Posted:** May 28th, 2012, 2:12 pm

Topsummoner wrote:

It would have been fine how the game turned out, but I'm talking in terms of initial circumstances. Had we not been able to deduce Lander and Riptide being mafia as quickly as we did, we would have been in a lot of trouble due to the Roleblocker.

You're welcome :lol:

Bifurcate Mafia: Game over, Village wins (twice)!

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