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 Post subject: Re: Mafia 2of4: Day Four - Gone
PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 12:01 am 
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ho no speeling errors mean i am maifa

Those who criticize my post analysis for my voting reasons have no place using minor grammatical errors for their own.

Secondly, Scar switched off me and onto you, market, so it'd still be at 1, not 2. Miscounting votes is something that was used to lynch the other mafia. It'd be hilarious if the other was caught that way as well.


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PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 12:08 am 
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Careful, Monk. Godders has voted you, Scar's first vote today was on Marketman.

You WOULD be at two votes if MM decided to vote for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia 2of4: Day Four - Gone
PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 12:32 am 
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Oops. Scar =/= Godders. Yay irony.

I'm just going to shut up now. I've said what I've done and what I will do. Should no lynch occur I'll still go after Scar.


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PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 6:15 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Mafia 2of4: Day Four - Gone
PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 6:29 am 
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Monk Basher wrote:
GODDERS IS A VILLAGER.


I am, but as a Jailkeeper how would you know that? They can't check people alignment can they, only stop night roles.

The only way to know i was a villager other than being a detective is to be a Mafia yourself then you would know i was a villager to help back up your point.

Scar was the first person in the entire game to vote for Riptide so i am going to say he is definitely not Mafia.

And it is between Lander and Market Man6: personally i think that when people were voting between Market Man and Riptide, Monk decided to divert attention by focusing on Lander.

I feel like Monk didn't vote for Riptide (the obvious choice for a lynch) because they are both Mafia and that splitting the votes would mean less chance of a lynch on him, and on Day 3 (page 6) monk said

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In the interests of getting something done, market.


but he only had one vote on him before that which was Ex Rex, whereas Riptide had 2 votes on him and got lynch that day, if Monk had really had an interest in getting things done he would have voted for Riptide (who got killed anyway) not Market Man, it was his last feeble attempt of trying to keep Riptide alive until night so he could try and get another nightkill.

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Argh, OK fine make me talk then.

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I am, but as a Jailkeeper how would you know that? They can't check people alignment can they, only stop night roles.

The only way to know i was a villager other than being a detective is to be a Mafia yourself then you would know i was a villager to help back up your point.


I can only stop night roles, yes. However, since you were blocked last night and the lone mafia still killed, you therefore couldn't be him.

The rest of your case still hinges on me never voting for Riptide makes me mafia. Again, if you think I wouldn't know better, I'm not sure what to tell you.


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PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 9:14 am 
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Argh, OK fine make me talk then.

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I am, but as a Jailkeeper how would you know that? They can't check people alignment can they, only stop night roles.

The only way to know i was a villager other than being a detective is to be a Mafia yourself then you would know i was a villager to help back up your point.


I can only stop night roles, yes. However, since you were blocked last night and the lone mafia still killed, you therefore couldn't be him.

The rest of your case still hinges on me never voting for Riptide makes me mafia. Again, if you think I wouldn't know better, I'm not sure what to tell you.


There are 2 Mafia left because Topsummoner stated there would be 3 Mafia and only 1 has been killed, but why would 2 Mafia players vote for Riptide to kill him off? There is no reason, they wouldn't both have voted for him because he would've survived and carried on getting night kills.

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PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 9:51 am 
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Godders, read the first post buddy. There can only be 2 Mafia in any of his set-ups.

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PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 10:01 am 
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Scar wrote:
Godders, read the first post buddy. There can only be 2 Mafia in any of his set-ups.


Oh wow, this changes my arguement a little bit, i will have to re-think things.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia 2of4: Day Four - Gone
PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 10:23 am 
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Godders wrote:
Scar was the first person in the entire game to vote for Riptide so i am going to say he is definitely not Mafia.

And it is between Lander and Market Man6: personally i think that when people were voting between Market Man and Riptide, Monk decided to divert attention by focusing on Lander.

It would make sense for Monk and Riptide to be on the same side because:

Monk Basher wrote:
In the interests of getting something done, market.


But Market Man6 only had one vote on him before that which was Ex Rex, whereas Riptide had 2 votes on him and got lynch that day, if Monk had really had an interest in getting things done he would have voted for Riptide (who got killed anyway) not Market Man, it was his last feeble attempt of trying to keep Riptide alive until night so he could try and get another nightkill.


I have made changes to my argument before.

It just doesn't make sense for a Mafia player to ever vote for someone on their own team.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia 2of4: Day Four - Gone
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At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy loon:

That's what they want you to think.


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PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 11:16 am 
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Monk Basher wrote:
At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy loon:

That's what they want you to think.


Only a Mafia goon is left on the Mafia side, and loon rhymes with goon. DUN DUN DUN!!!! :wink:

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PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 12:44 pm 
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Monk Basher wrote:
We kill market today. I will be roleblocking Scar. If nobody dies, we kill him the next day.


I can't believe i missed this, if you were the Mafia Goon who could make the night kills then you could just choose not to make the kill on the night that you role block Scar meaning that if after Market Man was lynched we lynched Scar, it would be you (scum), me and lander.

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I didn't want to mention the possibility of mafia choosing not to kill. Thanks for that. If Lander is the actual mafia, you sealed the game for him (not that I doubt he already realized it, but he most certainly has now.)

So yes, you basically have to trust me. Your alternative is to kill me, find out you've made a huge mistake, and if the mafia is even remotely smart, kill you tonight. The town is then faced with a LYLO situation which is all too much in the mafia's favor.


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I didn't want to mention the possibility of mafia choosing not to kill. Thanks for that. If Lander is the actual mafia, you sealed the game for him (not that I doubt he already realized it, but he most certainly has now.)

So yes, you basically have to trust me. Your alternative is to kill me, find out you've made a huge mistake, and if the mafia is even remotely smart, kill you tonight. The town is then faced with a LYLO situation which is all too much in the mafia's favor.


In my eyes i see it like this:

Me: Villager
Scar: 1% chance of being Mafia
MM6: 20% chance of being Mafia
Lander: 20% chance of being Mafia
Monk: 60% chance of being Mafia

-MM6 chance to me is so low because he an silly accusation.
-Lander has done nothing good nor bad.
-Monk has made signals in the way that he speaks in the posts that he is scum-like.

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PostPosted: April 9th, 2012, 3:03 pm 
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Let your vote do the talking.

And WHY IN THE BLUE HELL would you point out the option of the mafia withholding their kill?

I understand that it's very, very likely that you're town, but you're playing poorly at this point. You've handed the mafia a genius plan here, if the mafia isn't Scar or Market Man. In which case, someone's lying their ass off.

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Oh derp. Your vote is doing the talking. You never changed it. Disregard the first part of my previous post.

The premise stands, however. And Market Man ought to cast his vote soon as well.

As should I, it would seem.

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I've made 'signals', Godders? You'll believe two small mistakes in one post and a recognition fail in another, but not entire posts, actions, and patterns in Lander's case? To top it off, you'll make mistakes of your own in that last post? If I didn't know better, I'd vote for you. As it stands, it's ludicrous on its face.


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3 votes to kill.
monk has 1
i have 2
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2 votes left to cast.


for two reasons, i am voting for monk.
reason 1: dont want to kill myself, as killing off villagers is a bad idea.
reason 2: i will leave the killing vote to the far more experienced Lander.


soooo lander... dont screw up ;)
also, the option for voting for scar/godders is there. if you dont think myself/monk need to die right now.

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PostPosted: April 10th, 2012, 1:51 am 
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To add to my view i don't think it's likely Lander is scum because he was the one who hammered Riptide.

Market Man6 wrote:
the option for voting for scar/godders is there. if you dont think myself/monk need to die right now.


There is two ways to look at this which is:

Me as Villager: means Monk was telling the truth about me being a villager (but not necessarily about being Jailkeeper).
Me as Mafia: which means Monk was lying and ofcourse, Villagers have no reason to lie which means Monk must also be Mafia, which is impossible for 2 to be Mafia because there isn't a Mafia recruiter person.

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