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PostPosted: October 18th, 2011, 9:34 pm 
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It’s a den of thieves!

Occupy Wall Street protesters said yesterday that packs of brazen crooks within their ranks have been robbing their fellow demonstrators blind, making off with pricey cameras, phones and laptops -- and even a hefty bundle of donated cash and food.

“Stealing is our biggest problem at the moment,” said Nan Terrie, 18, a kitchen and legal-team volunteer from Fort Lauderdale.

I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”


Crafty cat burglars sneaked into the makeshift kitchen at Zuccotti Park overnight and swiped as much as $2,500 in donated greenbacks from right under the noses of volunteers who’d fallen asleep after a long day whipping up meals for the hundreds of hungry protesters, the volunteers said.

“The worst thing is there’s people sleeping in the kitchen when they come, and they don’t even know about it! There are some really smart and sneaky thieves here,” Terrie said.

“I had umbrellas stolen, a fold-up bed I brought because my back is bad -- they took that, too!”

Security volunteer Harry Wyman, 22, of Brooklyn was furious about the thievery -- and vowed to get tough with the predatory perps.

“I’m not getting paid, but I’m not gonna stand for it. Why people got to come here and do stupid stuff? All it does is make people not wanna come here anymore,” Wyman fumed.

At one point yesterday, Wyman and other volunteers briefly scuffled with a man who was standing near a park entrance with a pail calling out: “Donations! Donations!” -- and pocketing the cash people tossed in the bucket.

Meanwhile, the Rev. Jesse Jackson was at Zuccotti late last night as he and about 50 protesters formed a human chain in front of a medical tent after police officers came over to ask about the tent, cops and protesters said.

“Jesse dropped in like a ninja,” said Stephanie Perricone, 21. “He came out of nowhere and helped us all out.”

The officers were asking about the size of the tent when the crowd of demonstrators -- including Jackson -- stood en masse in front of it.

The cops said didn’t ask for it to be taken down and the issue was quickly resolved.



http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/criminal_occupation_oh3CnKANUqYHrGPCaZaLRK#ixzz1bC3EDfn8

As a poster on another board said: "People wanting redistribution of wealth complaining when their items are redistributed."

Seriously, who brings out that kind of stuff to a protest? Why is someone with the kind of money to afford that complaining about how unfair it is that they don't have money?

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 Post subject: Re: Oh the irony
PostPosted: October 18th, 2011, 10:15 pm 
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Those corporate goons probably hired those thieves to undermine the efforts of the protesters.

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There may be a few people who are there to protest just to protest, but that doesn't void their cause.


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PostPosted: October 19th, 2011, 8:33 am 
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I think Cracked put it pretty well:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/3-types-wal ... own-cause/

I'm very DIY, don't-let-the-man-get-you-down, and anti-authority, but this protest just annoys me. What's that, don't like that you're not in the top 1%? Well then, you could have majored in investment banking instead of anthropology.

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 Post subject: Re: Oh the irony
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Is this protest even accomplishing anything?

From my understanding, its broke people gathering infront of areas of wealth. And proesting there to try to get the money spread out more equally?

Is this correct?

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They're protesting corporate influence over the federal government. I'm not even from the same country and I've known that for a while now...

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I think we can all agree that this protest it full of idiots.

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PostPosted: October 19th, 2011, 4:30 pm 
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Market Man6 wrote:
Is this protest even accomplishing anything?

From my understanding, its broke people gathering infront of areas of wealth. And proesting there to try to get the money spread out more equally?

Is this correct?

Yeah pretty much. In a nutshell it's people protesting against corruption in big corporations and/in the government.

The idea of it is without a doubt one of the most patriotic things ever done. The IDEA of it. Most of the protesters don't know what they're doing and their ideals conflict. To make this work a lot more needs to be done than generic civil disobedience.

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Rayseima wrote:
Market Man6 wrote:
Is this protest even accomplishing anything?

From my understanding, its broke people gathering infront of areas of wealth. And proesting there to try to get the money spread out more equally?

Is this correct?

Yeah pretty much. In a nutshell it's people protesting against corruption in big corporations and/in the government.

The idea of it is without a doubt one of the most patriotic things ever done. The IDEA of it. Most of the protesters don't know what they're doing and their ideals conflict. To make this work a lot more needs to be done than generic civil disobedience.


In all honesty, something needs to be done about the way only the richest 1% of americans actually choose what laws to pass. (This news article/topic proves what happens when the big corporations start influencing lawmaking) The sad thing is, this whole Occupy Wall Street seems to be without direction and without a definite goal. Without something to aim towards, how will anything change? Until there is a set of demands that can be implemented, i don't think anything will get done...

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Market Man6 wrote:
Is this protest even accomplishing anything?

From my understanding, its broke people gathering infront of areas of wealth. And proesting there to try to get the money spread out more equally?

Is this correct?

Yeah pretty much. In a nutshell it's people protesting against corruption in big corporations and/in the government.

The idea of it is without a doubt one of the most patriotic things ever done. The IDEA of it. Most of the protesters don't know what they're doing and their ideals conflict. To make this work a lot more needs to be done than generic civil disobedience.


In all honesty, something needs to be done about the way only the richest 1% of americans actually choose what laws to pass. (This news article/topic proves what happens when the big corporations start influencing lawmaking) The sad thing is, this whole Occupy Wall Street seems to be without direction and without a definite goal. Without something to aim towards, how will anything change? Until there is a set of demands that can be implemented, i don't think anything will get done...


to rayseima - are things really that corrupt over there that these are needed?
at a first thought, i would say for these people to go get a job. that would be more beneficial to their wallets.

to the king - the link you added described an attempt at protecting big companies, and not the big companies actually having an influence on laws being passed.
and if it turns out that the big companies ARE actually affecting the laws, how hard is it for several states to reject this corrupt government and to leave. make their own nation.

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how hard is it for several states to reject this corrupt government and to leave. make their own nation.


Very.

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how hard is it for several states to reject this corrupt government and to leave. make their own nation.


Very.

Precisely how America was made—we didn't like England, so now we aren't England. And THAT took ~150 years to come to those terms, with those states having ~50k population about there being corruption in a single country, by one other country.

Now imagine a country...being formed...by a formed country...with states now containing ~50mil population...and all of this corruption-is-taking-over-the-entire-modern-world realization happening within ~15 years.

As the title quotes: Oh the irony.

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Couldn't care less about any of this. Greasy liberal college students anyway, with their worthless degrees in philosophy, art history, liberal studies, and obscure music. Lol'ed heartily at the hipster pic...heheh. Stolen macbook indeed. Those are some imperative tools for protestin'.

I'm with Blackmage, mostly. Why set up a tent city and 'protest' the corporate world when you could be working to make a difference from the inside, maaaaan...

Really though, there is a lot of corruption and whatnot in the corporate world. I like the think that our politicians can't be bought, but if that's the case, then wtf is lobbying??? Again, I couldn't care less about all of this. I make enough money now, and I will make more than enough after I graduate. Why's that? Because I took my future into my own hands.

Lastly, this article was incredibly poorly written. I thought I was reading something from The Onion at first. It's the idiotic quotes that make it what it is.

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There is also a reactionary group to this, the other 53%.

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Revision: The thoughts originally contained in this post were wasted in this thread. I apologise for wasting time with unrelated material on such a stunningly well-informed debate. Thread ignored.

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to the king - the link you added described an attempt at protecting big companies, and not the big companies actually having an influence on laws being passed.
and if it turns out that the big companies ARE actually affecting the laws, how hard is it for several states to reject this corrupt government and to leave. make their own nation.
If the big companies didn't have such a stranglehold on the US government, the law would have never have been attempted to be passed. It's the rich 1% moaning because they're losing money they don't need. Stop whining and be charitable. Give it to someone else who needs it, like Bill Gates did.

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The123king wrote:
Market Man6 wrote:
to the king - the link you added described an attempt at protecting big companies, and not the big companies actually having an influence on laws being passed.
and if it turns out that the big companies ARE actually affecting the laws, how hard is it for several states to reject this corrupt government and to leave. make their own nation.
If the big companies didn't have such a stranglehold on the US government, the law would have never have been attempted to be passed. It's the rich 1% moaning because they're losing money they don't need. Stop whining and be charitable. Give it to someone else who needs it, like Bill Gates did.


There is so much wrong with criticising companies for making money, that I don't know where to begin.

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Market Man6 wrote:
to the king - the link you added described an attempt at protecting big companies, and not the big companies actually having an influence on laws being passed.
and if it turns out that the big companies ARE actually affecting the laws, how hard is it for several states to reject this corrupt government and to leave. make their own nation.
If the big companies didn't have such a stranglehold on the US government, the law would have never have been attempted to be passed. It's the rich 1% moaning because they're losing money they don't need. Stop whining and be charitable. Give it to someone else who needs it, like Bill Gates did.


Oh yeah? What happened to investing in your and your company's interests? What about research and development? What about improving your product? What about hiring the right people? What about paying your employees?

Please, don't be fooled into thinking that companies aren't affected by having their money stolen from them. These worthless liberal hipsters aren't contributing anything, but want money for doing nothing. They're crying because nobody cares that they have their obscure, worthless degrees.

Oh, also, think about the logic going on with this. The corporations have too much influence on the government --> increase power of the government when dealing with those corporations. Does that make any sense?

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These worthless liberal hipsters aren't contributing anything, but want money for doing nothing.

Being in NYC right now, that's pretty much what's going on. Many of them really don't know what they're protesting about - they're just protesting because they're mad they aren't making as much money as the people in Wall Street.

You want to be in the top 1%? Get off your ass and do something.

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That's why if you're not an engineer you're not cool. :smooth: Fuzzy Bunny hippies are unemplyed because they're hippies. Also, business majors aren't really any better. Basically, most majors suck. True story.

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business majors aren't really any better.


I wonder how many engineers are good at the other parts of the company they work for. Hint: Both majors have their place. Art History, however, usually does not.

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