Getting extra spins in the squeal of fortune

Saten Ruiko · **Posted:** April 6th, 2012, 10:16 pm

Demon wrote:

Soo... Who else loves the irony of runevillage out living runescape, even after our estrangement.

That's not gonna happen. A lot of people are unhappy with Jagex here, and rightfully so, but all of their actions only prove the game just keeps attracting more and more players.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** April 6th, 2012, 10:30 pm

I can't pretend I'm going to cancel my membership because frankly, I'm not. This is a heaping load of BS but Jagex still has a pretty good product that I enjoy.

I would never defend them on this front, because there's no word for it other than 'wrong', but I'm going to paypal it or get prepaid cards. Even more so, you guys should note that there's another line of defense if someone does this and gets your info: your goddamn bank. I know if I went into my bank and told them someone had unauthorized access to my account, something would be done about it. Moreover, I have identity protection insurance that I know would cover something like this.

In short, it's bad. Really bad. But I'm not gonna let it drive me away from doing something I like to do. Jagex's attitude is nonsense, but it is our responsibilities to protect our information. Whether that's my way, or your way of removing your membership, we all win in the end because we're safe.

Kikori · **Posted:** April 7th, 2012, 1:52 am

Meanwhile I've pretty much cleared out 99% of my bank and, once I get the spaces filled with as many free-play possible items as I can (using just less than 4 mil, wish me luck!), it's a subscription cancel for me.
I highly doubt I was getting back into the game to start with. This behavior's pretty much it for me. Looking back, I'm kinda glad we didn't end up with majority votes for the RVET to get into Runescape events.

Aragorn Ix · **Posted:** April 7th, 2012, 12:56 pm

Christopher wrote:

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Squeal_of_Fortune

Financial Security wrote:

If a member is paying by credit card, and the credit card information has been saved with Jagex, there is no identity verification between clicking the in-game "buy spins" button and confirming the transaction. This means that someone with unauthorized access to a RuneScape account can turn up to $200/day of the rightful owner's money into Squeal spins. Since there is no option to disable spin purchasing on an account, it is also possible for children whose parents pay for their RuneScape membership to spend their parents' money on Squeal spins without their knowledge. These issues have provoked accusations that Jagex is violating laws concerning customer data protection. Jagex has replied with reminders to keep your RuneScape login information secure.
Additionally, they changed their Terms and Conditions[1][2], effective 2nd April, 2012 to avoid lawsuits by adding a line in the Subscription section:

"We reserve the right to charge you for any unauthorized use of your subscription by third parties."

I would laugh if I wasn't genuinely disgusted.

Jagex officially has no shame whatsoever.

Is that legal in every country they operate in? I know it's legal in the UK and I suspect the US but that is a seriously questionable practice.

Animal · **Posted:** April 8th, 2012, 12:48 pm

What the

? Did EA buy out Jagex or something? I knew it had gotten bad there, but holy Fuzzy Bunny

.

Freeasacar · **Posted:** April 8th, 2012, 7:43 pm

11 Days later and the official forums are still flooded with ongoing complaint threads while Jagex still hasn't (and most likely never will) made an official response addressing the concerns of the clear majority of the player base.

Just saiyan.

ZxC · **Posted:** April 8th, 2012, 8:55 pm

What is this? A p2p MMO who went on record for being one of the most anti RWT game out there is starting to implement microtransactions?

I'm definitely never renewing my membership again unless they take that update back.

Magicana Drofulcus · **Posted:** April 10th, 2012, 4:42 am

Just bought myself 75 spins. Cower in fear at my game breaking rewards.

1. Double spin ticket
2. 3x gold ore
3. 50 coins
4. yew shortbow
5. medium xp lamp
6. 50 coins
7. Medium lamp (Prayer)
8. 50 coins
9. 50 coins
10. small xp lamp
11. rune scimitar
12. emerald
13. 3x logs
14. small xp lamp (Mining)
15. 50 coins
16. 50 coins
17. 2x soft clay
18. 50 coins
19. small xp lamp
20. double spin ticket
21. medium lamp (CrafT)
22. 50 coins
23. 2x cowhide
24. 3x law rune
25. rune pickaxe
26. small lamp (rc)
27. 50 coins
28. small xp (cooking)
29. small xp lamp
30. 50 coins
31. 3x gold ore
32. 50 coins
33. double spin
34. 50 coins
35. 3x law rune
36. rune longsword
37. 2x yew logs
38. double spin
39. 2x raw swordfish
40. medium lamp
41. double spin
42. 50 coins
43. 2x raw swordfish
44. 3x iron ore
45. small xp lamp
46. 3x logs
47. 50 coins
48. small lamp (attack)
49. anchovy pizza
50. 50 coins
51. 2x cowhide
52. medium lamp
53. 50 coins
54. double spin
55. medium lamp
56. small lamp (strength)
57. double spin
58. 40x steel arrow
59. small lamp (prayer)
60. 5x raw tuna
61. 3x coal
62. medium lamp
63. small lamp
64. medium lamp
65. 2x yew logs
66. anchovy pizza
67. small lamp (prayer)
68. double spin
69. medium lamp
70. 50x coins
71. small lamp
72. 50x coins
73. small lamp
74. 50x coins
75. 50x coins
===Bonus Spins===
76. rune platebody
77. 50x coins
78. 50x coins
79. emerald
80. uncut sapphire
81. small lamp
82. 50x coins
83. small lamp
84. 5x raw tuna
85. 40x steel arrow
86. small lamp
87. 3x gold ore
88. 5x silver ore
89. small lamp (Constitution)
90. 5x raw tuna
91. emerald.

Market Man6 · **Posted:** April 10th, 2012, 12:14 pm

18 small lamps.
9 medium lamps.
you purchased approximately 100k exp.
true?

Freeasacar · **Posted:** April 10th, 2012, 1:01 pm

Market Man6 wrote:

18 small lamps.
9 medium lamps.
you purchased approximately 100k exp.
true?

Considering the guy in the video gained 509k exp from 300+ spins ($80US) that seems about right for 75 spins if not a bit unlucky. Generally it's better to trust the larger sized sample of data but the difference here is only around 27k exp.

Basically it can be assumed from this data that $100 US worth of spins = 600 - 625k Experience.
Assuming you got unlucky and every $100 US you spent got you 600k experience, it would mean 1 million experience would cost $167 US and to gain 13,034,000 experience it would cost about $2150 - $2200 US.

Any player who is willing to cough up the money and spend about 5-6 hours (approximated guess) clicking on the wheel and lamps can now gain the amount of experience it requires for a skill to go from level 1 - 99 in under 24 hours. No previous skills have to be leveled up beforehand, no in-game money has to be spent and no quests/tasks have to be completed for a player to utilize this method.

ZxC · **Posted:** April 10th, 2012, 1:33 pm

^ And that, while awful in itself, is only the beginning.

Experience has shown us that RS players tend to get accustomed to even the worse updates that Jagex put forth. Now that they've put their foot in the microtransactions door, it won't be long until you'll be able to purchase in-game items.

Simons Pure · **Posted:** April 10th, 2012, 3:24 pm

Money well spent, eh Cam?

Magicana Drofulcus · **Posted:** April 10th, 2012, 7:28 pm

Freeasacar wrote:

Market Man6 wrote:

18 small lamps.
9 medium lamps.
you purchased approximately 100k exp.
true?

Considering the guy in the video gained 509k exp from 300+ spins ($80US) that seems about right for 75 spins if not a bit unlucky. Generally it's better to trust the larger sized sample of data but the difference here is only around 27k exp.

Basically it can be assumed from this data that $100 US worth of spins = 600 - 625k Experience.
Assuming you got unlucky and every $100 US you spent got you 600k experience, it would mean 1 million experience would cost $167 US and to gain 13,034,000 experience it would cost about $2150 - $2200 US.

Any player who is willing to cough up the money and spend about 5-6 hours (approximated guess) clicking on the wheel and lamps can now gain the amount of experience it requires for a skill to go from level 1 - 99 in under 24 hours. No previous skills have to be leveled up beforehand, no in-game money has to be spent and no quests/tasks have to be completed for a player to utilize this method.

165k RC xp actually. I think. But I'm level 92 in that already.

Simons Pure wrote:

Money well spent, eh Cam?

I'm in no danger of my money running low, so yes and no. I was interested to see the sort of rewards I'd get. It's mostly trash.

Freeasacar · **Posted:** April 12th, 2012, 12:27 am

Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

Freeasacar wrote:

Market Man6 wrote:

18 small lamps.
9 medium lamps.
you purchased approximately 100k exp.
true?

Considering the guy in the video gained 509k exp from 300+ spins ($80US) that seems about right for 75 spins if not a bit unlucky. Generally it's better to trust the larger sized sample of data but the difference here is only around 27k exp.

Basically it can be assumed from this data that $100 US worth of spins = 600 - 625k Experience.
Assuming you got unlucky and every $100 US you spent got you 600k experience, it would mean 1 million experience would cost $167 US and to gain 13,034,000 experience it would cost about $2150 - $2200 US.

Any player who is willing to cough up the money and spend about 5-6 hours (approximated guess) clicking on the wheel and lamps can now gain the amount of experience it requires for a skill to go from level 1 - 99 in under 24 hours. No previous skills have to be leveled up beforehand, no in-game money has to be spent and no quests/tasks have to be completed for a player to utilize this method.

165k RC xp actually. I think. But I'm level 92 in that already.

Yeah.. It seems my calculations were actually a bit low. I just noticed while the guy in the video gained 509k Runecrafting exp, he also gained 941k total experience.

Getting extra spins in the squeal of fortune

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