should "America" celebrate August 6th as a "Go America!" day?

i think that is a classless act. boasting about how your nation killed so many. especially when they killed in a way that required such little skill. dropping that bomb required little talent, especially when comparing it to hand to hand combat.

Gee, I'm glad that Japan didn't declare war on America and that if they hadn't dropped the nuclear bomb, the alternative would have been to invade Japan which would have killed even millions more people (Both American and Japanese).

Thank you all for providing your very nuanced ideas on what was needed to win the war.

Gee, I'm glad that Japan didn't declare war on America and that if they hadn't dropped the nuclear bomb, the alternative would have been to invade Japan which would have killed even millions more people (Both American and Japanese).

Thank you all for providing your very nuanced ideas on what was needed to win the war.

I don't necessarily agree that invading Japan would have been less casualties, but thats a different debate. What was needed to end the war isn't on debate, its the celebration of the explosion that "ensured" America as a superpower, that killed millions.

It's easy to take one viewpoint of an event and scew it ignoring all other factors, e.g.

The bomb was dropped to scare the hell out of the Russians and prevent them marching on from Manchuria straight across the entire far east and into Japan, giving them a Cuba-esque line of sight on the Western US. So political and geo-strategic gain were traded for Japanese lives.

This is just another viewpoint however, but don't pretend that the murdering of thousands of Japanese was some noble act that was done in the face of evil, it was most definitely used to score political and geo-strategic points as well.

I agree on one part - That it's not a 'Cause for celebration', per se.

Don't complain about "heated topics" when you're the only one trying to make it heated.

That's all this topic was about. Don't complain about "heated topics" when you're the only one trying to make it heated.

THERE IS NO DEBATE HERE.

As a day of mass genocide and destruction on the Japanese people?

As a day of mass genocide

Mass genocide

the proposition that dropping the bomb was wrong.

No.

There is no debate here.

Your friend is simply an idiot.

I assumed the "Go America!" at the end was simply sarcasm.

You have far too much faith in people.

I agree far too much faith.

This is our little debate.

Article 2 of this convention defines genocide as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."[3].

The phrase "in whole or in part" has been the subject of much discussion. In the 2001 Krstic case, the ICTY found that the mass killing of approximately 8,000 Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica constituted genocide. Reflecting on the meaning of "in part," the tribunal stated: "[T]he part must be a substantial part of that group. The aim of the Genocide Convention is to prevent the intentional destruction of entire human groups, and the part targeted must be significant enough to have an impact on the group as a whole." They concluded that while the number of individuals targeted is the "necessary and important starting point," one must also consider the number of victims in relation to the overall size of the entire group, as well as the prominence or importance of the targeted individuals within the entire group. In Krstic it was found that even though only Muslim men in one town were targeted, the number of victims was large and their significance was such that, to a certain extent, they represented the wider Bosnian Muslim community.

I agree on one part - That it's not a 'Cause for celebration', per se.

As for 'millions', there was an estimated 120,000 dead at Hiroshima (But they can't be sure due to wartime shifts in population movement and possible slave labor) and 70,000 at Nagasaki, for a total of 190,000 odd dead. By comparison, Japanese scientists were thought to have killed 400,000+ Chinese citizens through testing biological weapons.



Coca-Cola is wet and delicious. How does it manage to be many things at once?

I take issue with you talking down at people like they're children just because they put across a view that you disagree with