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 Post subject: Testosterone Promotes Honesty
PostPosted: October 26th, 2012, 11:31 am 
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Researchers Suggest That Testosterone Promotes Honesty in Men

The results of a new study show that testosterone stimulates positive social behavior through the increase of honesty in male subjects. The hormone has already been associated with higher levels of aggression and criminality. According to a research team from Germany, testosterone could influence positive social behavior, in addition to its already known influences on muscle and libido.

The study was recently published in the online journal PLOS ONE. The lead author of the study, Dr Matthias Wibral, notes that “The disadvantage of many studies is, however, that they only correlate their subjects’ testosterone level with their behavior”, whilst adding that his current paper is a statistical one and not a clinical study that would provide the causes of this behavior. On a side note, Dr Wibral also said that behavior itself influences the levels of testosterone.

91 healthy subjects participated in the experimental study. 46 of the patients received a skin-applied testosterone gel, whilst the other 45 subjects received a placebo gel. The research team investigated the causes and effects of the hormone in male patients. The study was double-blind and randomized, therefore neither the subjects, nor the doctors, had any idea about who received placebo and who received the actual testosterone gel.

After applying the gel, subjects participated in an easy game. Each subject was asked to play a game of dice whilst being inside an enclosed booth. Based on their score, they would be rewarded with a sum of money. The research team noted that this game was conceived in a certain way, in order to allow the subjects to lie. “Due to the separate booths, nobody knew whether they were entering their real scores into the computer, or higher ones in order to get more money”, said Dr Wibral, whilst adding that researchers were able to detect cheaters based on statistics, because the probability for each face of the dice to occur is the same. In statistics, an outlier is an observation that is numerically distant from the rest of the data, thus the subjects who scored higher numbers were considered as cheaters.

The comparison of the two groups revealed that the participants which received the testosterone gel were more likely to tell the truth. Dr Armin Falk, the co-author of the study, notes that the results of their study indicates that previous research which linked higher levels of testosterone to an anti-social behavior had a wrong one-dimensional approach.

The research team noted that ”Lying is a pervasive phenomenon with important social and economic implications”, however, there is very little information regarding the biological foundations of lying. There are multiple studies that examine the implications and effects of lying in economic situations, however only a few studies were directed towards understanding the biological foundations.

“In this regard, this study has allowed us to make a big step forward”, concluded Dr Falk.


Read more: http://www.doctortipster.com/11761-rese ... z2AQYCg2iJ

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 Post subject: Re: Testosterone Promotes Honesty
PostPosted: October 26th, 2012, 11:46 pm 
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Huh. That's sure a weird experiment but it makes a lot of sense.

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And I'm prompted to ask whether there were any attractive women on the research team.

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And I'm prompted to ask whether there were any attractive women on the research team.


It made a difference with me. I participated in a pain experiment at college over the course of a week. I was able to withstand more pain and keep a straight face longer with an attractive female versus a nerdy or jock male. *shrugs*

Interesting research though. But why do all my friends on steroids constantly lie then? :lmao:

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 Post subject: Re: Testosterone Promotes Honesty
PostPosted: October 27th, 2012, 9:39 am 
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The act of gambling is probably important as well. Some people naturally just want to tell the truth, and some just naturally want to maximize their gain through less than favorable means. Testosterone probably doesn't have as large an effect on morals as the article implies.

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 Post subject: Re: Testosterone Promotes Honesty
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I believe they took each persons mean, and compared it that to that same persons deviations.

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 Post subject: Re: Testosterone Promotes Honesty
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That still doesn't solve the problem of "Some people naturally aren't as willing to lie". Testosterone doesn't override morals in a one-shot test like this. You don't have a baseline to compare people's initial reaction to. If those who figure out they can get away with lying are repeatedly allowed to get away with it, there's a chance they'll maximize their gain. You have to establish that kind of trend before finding out if something like testosterone will interrupt it.

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 Post subject: Re: Testosterone Promotes Honesty
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"that his current paper is a statistical one and not a clinical study"

"In statistics, an outlier is an observation that is numerically distant from the rest of the data[--i assumed this was previous data for the same subject. Eg: control test--], thus the subjects who scored higher numbers were considered as cheaters."

I made an assumption :P

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Interesting...

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A respectable study that has to describe what an outlier is?

Yeah, not holding my breath on this one.

And assuming those outside the basic probability of the dice as liars is flawed.

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Not to mention that this report seems to assume that lying is always an inherently aggressive behaviour...

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A respectable study that has to describe what an outlier is?

Yeah, not holding my breath on this one.

And assuming those outside the basic probability of the dice as liars is flawed.


The actual paper they linked to in the article at the bottom isn't the overdistilled tripe that the article is. What I didn't see was their data on the actual rolls by each group so we can see just how skewed the supposed rolls were. I'd also have liked a second experimental group with even more testosterone. While I'm at it, statistical validation isn't as nice as a hidden camera in their booths would've been.


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The actual paper they linked to in the article at the bottom isn't the overdistilled tripe that the article is. What I didn't see was their data on the actual rolls by each group so we can see just how skewed the supposed rolls were. I'd also have liked a second experimental group with even more testosterone. While I'm at it, statistical validation isn't as nice as a hidden camera in their booths would've been.
Yeah exactly; I don't see why they can't actually back up the results. Ceiling vent camera! Who would know?

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