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 Post subject: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 5:49 pm 
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how much longer until it comes out?

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 6:48 pm 
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........... Wow. Really? Of all the questions to ask, you pick the one that has no answer. O_o

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:11 pm 
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........... Wow. Really? Of all the questions to ask, you pick the one that has no answer. O_o

Eehh... That's partially true. Hehe. Upon hiker's request, we're pushing for his birthday in October. :P If we still can't launch on time, it'll probably be RV's birthday in November. And if we still aren't ready, Christmas? :santa: (Someone please update the replacement for this icon, lol.) But we think we'll be ready before the end of this year. :)


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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:14 pm 
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A5chow wrote:
kikori kid wrote:
........... Wow. Really? Of all the questions to ask, you pick the one that has no answer. O_o

Eehh... That's partially true. Hehe. Upon hiker's request, we're pushing for his birthday in October. :P If we still can't launch on time, it'll probably be RV's birthday in November. And if we still aren't ready, Christmas? :santa:


That said -- we're all working our hardest to get this out for you guys. :^_^:

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:17 pm 
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you guys really should set yourselfs a feesable date, and not have all these approximations, people are more motivated when they have a clear timeline

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:22 pm 
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dustin wrote:
you guys really should set yourselfs a feesable date, and not have all these approximations, people are more motivated when they have a clear timeline


You have no idea what you're talking about. :?:

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:23 pm 
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dustin wrote:
you guys really should set yourselfs a feesable date, and not have all these approximations, people are more motivated when they have a clear timeline

Well, we've been setting them in the past but things have always come up and then we end up not being able to meet them. Eventually, we just got tired of setting dates. However, ever since the accidental roll-back occurred, we've been pushing it as hard as possible to get it out because we need this now more than ever.


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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:23 pm 
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well i imagine they don't want to set a "feesable" date and then let everyone down. you know, get everyone's hopes up


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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:24 pm 
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Noen wrote:
well i imagine they don't want to set a "feesable" date and then let everyone down. you know, get everyone's hopes up

Thanks Noen, that explains it quite well. Even if we don't "publish" a date, we end up disappointing ourselves, lol.


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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 7:34 pm 
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Guys, I dunno what else to say other than we're working very hard right now.

Please remember that this is a volunteer project. We are not getting paid for the hard work we're putting into RV2, we're doing it because we desperately want RV to continue existing. I cannot even begin to express how important this project is to us, and how hard we're working on it.

We can't be the only ones working, though. The Website Team is not the only team responsible for the survival of RV and the release of RV2. You may have noticed that we're pretty behind on quest guides. Luckily, there aren't really that many new quest guides that need to be written (but there are still plenty of older guides that need to be updated, and some other guides that need to be writen). If you want to help out with that effort, please read this topic and consider joining the Guide Writers, we plan to start things up again as soon as possible. The guides are important for RV's survival and important for the release of RV2. It would be very nice to have top-notch guides for the release of RV2.

Sitting around asking 'when is RV2 gonna come out?' will not speed up the process! If you want to help RV, then do something. Join one of the guide teams, or the database team, and be a part of the effort to keep RV alive and to help us grow. I know it may not be as fun as the Website Team (which is not fun AT ALL, by the way. It is a completely thankless job and we usually get more crap than respect for the work we do), but the guides and the database are the foundation of RV, They need to be constantly maintained by active users. Without guides and databases, we would have no chance of success, even with RV2.

Some people think that we've been working on this project for 3+ years, and that is not true. There have actually been two RV2 projects. The first RV2 project kinda died. I won't go into detail, but ehh yeah, it kinda died. A5chow and Glodenox basically had to reboot the project. They both worked very hard to get things organized so that we could start working again. Work on the design and coding started sometime around November 2008. The reason it is taking this long is because we are not simply improving or building on RV1. We are redesigning just about everything, and we are also working on some really cool features. All we ask is for your patience and maybe a little bit of support. :D

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 16th, 2009, 8:01 pm 
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you guys really should set yourselfs a feesable date, and not have all these approximations, people are more motivated when they have a clear timeline
We've been working extremely hard on this project, and have been working even harder since the setback with the rollback. Time and time again we've set deadlines, but this just isn't a project we can declare a release date for - There's too many ever-changing factors.

It'll come out when it comes out, and we're working at full force. If you want to see it out faster, join the Website team (or guide writers/coders/etc) and help out. :)

Aside from that, !echo Jackstick.


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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 17th, 2009, 11:44 am 
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What does the website team need? I am willing to help but I don't know how to code or do graphics or anything like that.

I pmed Cheff about maybe editing some of the guides if they need help with that. If you guys can use someone with little time and talent, let me know what I can do.

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 17th, 2009, 11:50 am 
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On the website team front? I'm not sure if we need anything presently.

In terms of editing guides? This is your best bet for editing guides - unless you meant editing in the sense of updating older guides in the writers forum.

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 17th, 2009, 11:57 am 
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Zilla wrote:
What does the website team need? I am willing to help but I don't know how to code or do graphics or anything like that.

I pmed Cheff about maybe editing some of the guides if they need help with that. If you guys can use someone with little time and talent, let me know what I can do.


We're getting the Guide Writers forum started up again, so we will probably need editors soon (I'm not sure though, because I'm not an editor and I've never really had anything to do with guide editing.. so I'll let the Editor leaders address that). I'm sure they would appreciate your help, though! :D

RV2 will definitely attract new users, but we also need to give those users what they want. It would be really nice if we could have new quest guides up within 12 hours of the update. Guides get written, edited, and then coded/uploaded, so having a strong team of editors will certainly speed things up.

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 17th, 2009, 4:49 pm 
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I'd definitly like to get into the Guide Writing team. Sounds like something I would have a bit of fun doing.


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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 17th, 2009, 8:37 pm 
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There probably is some goal date that they have, which appears to be October. However, the web team will not ever complete and upload RV2 until it is completely ready. So the best thing anyone has been able to give, up until what Jenny had said was, "When it's ready."

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 18th, 2009, 9:09 am 
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When it comes out, you'll see how much time was actually put into everything. It's hard not to leak anything out, because we're so excited to show you. But we also want to give you guys a bang for your buck at the sametime.

I do want to say though is that when it is released, the main aspects of the site will be completed. The extra features that have been in the works will come at a later date, and we'll of course keep you updated.

Hopefully we'll get another DD (Development Diary) out to you guys before the actual release to the site, just so we don't leave you guys hanging more than we already have.

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 18th, 2009, 12:15 pm 
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lol. I'll give you a bang for your buck, Nate.

Honestly guys, I'm just gonna repeat what everyone else has said. I've seen what the team are working on, and I gotta say I am very excited about it. They have put so much work into this, the team hasn't actually stopped working on it since the day it was announced. You just gotta have a little patience. The sexiness is worth it.

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PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 1:30 pm 
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sounds like the exact same replies i have been hearing for a year and a half, here let me predict what is happening in the web developers forum

1) there have been 3 "lets it get it together" or "cmon guys" topics created in the last 8 months, the user or users that created these feels overworked.

2) 25% of the leaders haven't posted in that forum in over 2 weeks, another 50% do nothing but make heartless encouragement, the final 25% do 80% of the groups work, and have debated leaving on several occasions

3) 80% of the topics are created by 4 different users

4) one leader attempted to assign tasks to people, these tasks had deadlines, this resulted in a spike in activity, then a sudden drop because it was like work

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 Post subject: Re: rv2
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 2:33 pm 
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Alright guys, time to end this.

Dustin, it'll come out when it comes out. They're working hard on it, I can tell you that much. The development diaries that were posted (and unfortunately deleted by the time warp; it's just easier to blame Jackstick/Henner sneezing/mucus-covered Jackstick for it :wink: ) proved that there is an immense amount of work being done to carefully craft the new site from the souls of little children art programs and many lines of code, and/or whatever else is involved.

Everyone else, you know what you're doing is going to be great and well-appreciated in the end, to say the very least. Keep on doing what you're doing, and we'll be here and applauding when you're done.

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