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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 11th, 2011, 11:35 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 2:31 am 
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honestly i just want to be able to cuss or discuss more adult themes

I think we'll lighten up a bit. We will have the option to use or not use the filter.


With an obvious limit to cussing. To cuss for the sake of cussing is just childish, something we don't need here. We won't be as strict but I'll be damned if someone is going to just go all out swearing in every post they make. That makes our board look childish and not well run. I don't mind it here and there, but some people just can't post without it.....which is sad and shows their maturity/intelligence level.[/quote]


I haven't watched this in a while, but I think this video talks about the issue and shows my point of view fairly well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrd_k2G6wcY

Note, the video does contain some foul language however based on informative not harassment type language.

Obviously you don't need to swear in every post however sometimes I feel like swearing can more effectively get a message across in some situations albeit not in an abusive way. IE: If someone posts a song that I really like, then I think that the phrase "I f_ love this song" conveys my emotion better then "I love this song."

But yea, getting off topic. lol

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 2:35 am 
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Obviously you don't need to swear in every post however sometimes I feel like swearing can more effectively get a message across in some situations albeit not in an abusive way. IE: If someone posts a song that I really like, then I think that the phrase "I f_ love this song" conveys my emotion better then "I love this song."
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My thoughts exactly, it doesn't have to be used offensively, and if it does, well that's what moderators are for, right?

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 7:11 am 
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Pretty much but when Loner put it the way he did at first (and I'll leave it at that concerning him...), you can see my concern.

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 7:24 am 
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It's gonna be weird to see people swearing on here...

Don't get me wrong, I swear more than I should, but I've always kept it under control when posting on this site. As for more mature topics - i'm good :D

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 8:34 am 
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I honestly don't see how "shut the * up" is more effective than "shut up". I honestly think it's just an excuse because the speaker is so used to use the first one, that it even feels more effective for him to use the word he would usually use.

So really he should only be using it with someone, if he knows that it's normal for that person to hear that. You guys should see how this language comes across someone who doesn't use that kind of language on a daily basis.

Then again, expressions like "I *ing love that" or "what the * is that" are acceptable I guess, since it's not really directed to anyone and can't really hurt someone I guess.

I personally just use swear words when I'm angry at someone/something - it's more of a way to express that I'm really infuriated.


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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 9:57 am 
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We don't have a filter in the in-game chat. Works pretty well. No one abuses the hell out of it. No one get's particularly offended..After all, they are just words.


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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 10:18 am 
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What did Hiker do? I don't play Runescape or even WoW anymore but i do tend to find my self at least once a week or 2 just pop onto Runevillage to see whats up with RS/RV cause i started my MMORPG carrer w/ Runescape and always felt like this place was a home for me. Anyways i can't even imagine what Hiker would do wrong? What did he do ?

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 Post subject: Re: The Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 11:10 am 
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That said, I will remain here and ADAMANTLY support a mafia-themed leg of the site. I would be more than willing to write a mafia blog here.

I'd say get one started in RP&L. It couldn't hurt. :awesome:

Edit- Yeah, let's get some ads up now.


Sure. We see how well the (somewhat) comprehensive guide to mafia went...we had at least five villagers put hours of work into it, and as I recall, all that went on in the thread was people complaining.

But perhaps.

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 2:01 pm 
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Let these past few days be a catalyst for growth and expansion of the Village rather than a negative time.  Let us all come together and build a better, stronger Village!



*sighs* I'll get the hammer and nails.

I don't know all the exact details about any of this, but it seems to stem from some sort of controversy over bad language if I've got that right. I know Hiker's position is changed now because of it, and I think I speak for everyone when I say that it is completely unfortunate. I actually made a post about this sort of thing that happened to me with a clan not long ago over the term, "virgin." I was kicked from the clan for saying, "You guys sound like virgins" in the clan chat, whilst all other members were acting immature enough to make anyone think that. Although I made the comment with obvious sarcasm, and the members whom it was directed toward were well aware it was a joke to go along with their original conversation... I was permanently banned from the clan. If this whole scenario is indeed based off something that Hiker did before RuneScape's existence... I'd call that a childish move on their part, contrary to whatever he said. It doesn't matter if it's irrelevant to Jagex and RuneScape all together. I agree with this decision completely, Henner. Let's make RuneVillage a better place.

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 2:38 pm 
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What did Hiker do? I don't play Runescape or even WoW anymore but i do tend to find my self at least once a week or 2 just pop onto Runevillage to see whats up with RS/RV cause i started my MMORPG carrer w/ Runescape and always felt like this place was a home for me. Anyways i can't even imagine what Hiker would do wrong? What did he do ?


It came to light that Hiker had been convicted of a crime in the past that got him placed on the sex offender registry. Jagex didn't feel it was appropriate for a fan site run by a sex offender to be supported by them so they've burned all bridges with us. At first it was indicated that if Hiker stepped down and left the site we could regain our gold status, but then they changed their minds.

So since we cannot get our Gold status back, there has been a general sentiment of wanting to expand beyond just Runescape, which I guess was frowned upon while we were endorsed by Jagex.

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 2:39 pm 
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Shmop wrote:
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Let these past few days be a catalyst for growth and expansion of the Village rather than a negative time.  Let us all come together and build a better, stronger Village!



*sighs* I'll get the hammer and nails.

I don't know all the exact details about any of this, but it seems to stem from some sort of controversy over bad language if I've got that right. I know Hiker's position is changed now because of it, and I think I speak for everyone when I say that it is completely unfortunate. I actually made a post about this sort of thing that happened to me with a clan not long ago over the term, "virgin." I was kicked from the clan for saying, "You guys sound like virgins" in the clan chat, whilst all other members were acting immature enough to make anyone think that. Although I made the comment with obvious sarcasm, and the members whom it was directed toward were well aware it was a joke to go along with their original conversation... I was permanently banned from the clan. If this whole scenario is indeed based off something that Hiker did before RuneScape's existence... I'd call that a childish move on their part, contrary to whatever he said. It doesn't matter if it's irrelevant to Jagex and RuneScape all together. I agree with this decision completely, Henner. Let's make RuneVillage a better place.


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Hiker is a registered sex offender, that's why.

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 12th, 2011, 10:47 pm 
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Scar wrote:
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What did Hiker do? I don't play Runescape or even WoW anymore but i do tend to find my self at least once a week or 2 just pop onto Runevillage to see whats up with RS/RV cause i started my MMORPG carrer w/ Runescape and always felt like this place was a home for me. Anyways i can't even imagine what Hiker would do wrong? What did he do ?


It came to light that Hiker had been convicted of a crime in the past that got him placed on the sex offender registry. Jagex didn't feel it was appropriate for a fan site run by a sex offender to be supported by them so they've burned all bridges with us. At first it was indicated that if Hiker stepped down and left the site we could regain our gold status, but then they changed their minds.

So since we cannot get our Gold status back, there has been a general sentiment of wanting to expand beyond just Runescape, which I guess was frowned upon while we were endorsed by Jagex.




I don't see how that matters regardless. Jagex shouldn't have lashed out over something that doesn't concern them in any way, shape, or form. FREE HIKER!

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 6:08 am 
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I'd be in favour of just disregarding Runescape entirely in the future and just focusing on upcoming fantasy titles that don't look like a glorified point-and-click flash game. Skyrim and Guild Wars 2 will be coming out at the end of this year, and when it really comes down to it, we'd only need one or two people willing to put forward new site content for each game.

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 6:58 am 
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Shmop wrote:
Scar wrote:
Leo444444444 wrote:
What did Hiker do? I don't play Runescape or even WoW anymore but i do tend to find my self at least once a week or 2 just pop onto Runevillage to see whats up with RS/RV cause i started my MMORPG carrer w/ Runescape and always felt like this place was a home for me. Anyways i can't even imagine what Hiker would do wrong? What did he do ?


It came to light that Hiker had been convicted of a crime in the past that got him placed on the sex offender registry. Jagex didn't feel it was appropriate for a fan site run by a sex offender to be supported by them so they've burned all bridges with us. At first it was indicated that if Hiker stepped down and left the site we could regain our gold status, but then they changed their minds.

So since we cannot get our Gold status back, there has been a general sentiment of wanting to expand beyond just Runescape, which I guess was frowned upon while we were endorsed by Jagex.




I don't see how that matters regardless. Jagex shouldn't have lashed out over something that doesn't concern them in any way, shape, or form. FREE HIKER!


It does concern them. They were officially supporting a website which caters for young people run by someone proven to be a risk to young people.

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 Post subject: Re: The New Direction of RuneVillage
PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 8:32 am 
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I really think we should give up on trying to compile all the information. It's just not reasonable for us to do, and we have other things we could focus on instead. That's not to say guides will be useless - there are plenty of niche things in games we can write about. Some of these might be difficult to find elsewhere. More of like a "Tips&Tricks" style of writing rather than methodical quest guides that Jagex is going to beat us to anyways.

But we should really consider getting the best of both worlds. Is there any way we could add the ability to quicklink things from various database sites?

For example, WoWhead has ways to add tooltips to your site. I'm sure there's various RS/Minecraft/whatever wikis that have similar functionality. Is there any way we could get stuff like this added to the forums for our "supported" games?

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PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 9:08 am 
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PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 9:27 am 
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I'd be in favour of just disregarding Runescape entirely in the future and just focusing on upcoming fantasy titles that don't look like a glorified point-and-click flash game. Skyrim and Guild Wars 2 will be coming out at the end of this year, and when it really comes down to it, we'd only need one or two people willing to put forward new site content for each game.

You know, start small.


hmm, I doubt anyone would be willing enough to stop playing Skyrim or Guild Wars 2 to make guides. I certainly won't :laugh:

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PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 10:26 am 
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I don't think we'll need to stop allowing guides/database entries to come out or remove those services at the moment, unless they sort of hinder us from creating other pages. We still have a pretty good basis of guides and databases... people are using them, we just don't happen to get enough growth/traffic compared to other fansites. Once RV2.0 is out, the teams will definitely find it much easier to publish things.

I think the best thing to do at the moment is brainstorm a number of ideas/pages/services we can work on; compose a list of these; let Glod check if it is possible to pursue these technically (I call it the Glodenox Filter :P); and then have a global vote on which ideas we should be focusing on. According to the result, we could distribute our time/staff.

RV was pretty much defined as a helping fansite, with all kinds of helpful resources for RuneScapers, when hiker created it, but it's time to redefine our mission. Most of us pretty much agree on becoming more of a general gaming website, and not only focus on RS... but let's be more specific. Are we going to publish helpful articles/tools or entertaining articles or user artwork? What do we really want by generalizing? I believe a lot of people just want the forum/community to remain, and don't want to have anything else... but that is very likely to either keep our community barely alive or get it shrinked as time passes by. That's generally what happens to non-productive communities. Jackstick suggested that we pursue productive goals that are also enjoyable to create - things like The Villager, we used to have. That might be a good idea, we could incorporate different games in it too - I don't really mind what we become/do, as long as we decide as a whole community... so please voice your opinion RV!


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PostPosted: September 13th, 2011, 7:04 pm 
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