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 Post subject: Re: A Thriffic Mafia - DAY 2 Letters Unsent
PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:22 pm 
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When did I become the detective??


If you're not a detective then I'm the only investigative role we have at all. We're missing a village support and I'm fairly certain that's you.

Sparky, it might be best to protect me if Jack is some other supportive role that we don't know about, and not detective.

Either way I'm still watching Jack tonight to see if he has any sort of night action that can help narrow this down further.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:23 pm 
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Sighence wrote:
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Hey everybody, post your role PMs!


When has that EVER been okay? :?:


This game. Peep the edit time on the OP (note the new rule 12) and then my post's time and take a guess on whether that's a coincidence.


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 Post subject: Re: A Thriffic Mafia - DAY 2 Letters Unsent
PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:24 pm 
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Sorry Pyro3000 I still don't trust you.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:26 pm 
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That's fine Jack my watch on you tonight will reveal everything.

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 Post subject: Re: A Thriffic Mafia - DAY 2 Letters Unsent
PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:33 pm 
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In fact, that brings me to 3 votes if I've counted that correctly.

So I guess those that voted for me before should think about if they want the one person with an investigative role to die. If I die today (the only chance the mafia has to get me whole sparky lives if he goes along with my plan) then just remember that of Jack, Top, and Aragorn: two of those three are the mafia.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:43 pm 
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Pyro3000 wrote:
Unfortunately I missed the first night phase because I didn't pay enough attention, so I don't have any information to give.


What a shame.

As much of a shame as the fact that the only person who can substantially analyze your claim is dead.

And we're just supposed to roll with it today, lose another village at night, and keep baselessly trusting you tomorrow. No one seems to be able to objectively analyze any of your claims, this is why I have a hard time trusting you. We're supposed to just roll with it and trust that you won't lead us down the wrong path. It's too flimsy, and the fact that you've managed to sway people away from voting for you gives me very little hope for the village.

I think you're all being played for fools. The decision we make tonight will basically decide the outcome of the game, because if we don't lynch a mafia tonight then tomorrow ALL OF US will have to trust and cooperate with each other in order to muster a lynch against the mafia.

I don't know how else to say it. You guys are being manipulated by Pyro and it turns out he's pretty well-versed in the skill.

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 Post subject: Re: A Thriffic Mafia - DAY 2 Letters Unsent
PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:45 pm 
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You're at 2 votes, Pyro. Spark Yams unvoted.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:50 pm 
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Okay nevermind I'm at 2.

1. Jackstick - unknown (but denied detective) - Pyro3000
2. Topsummoner - unknown - Spirographed
3. Spirographed - Survivor - Sparky
4. Frank 4.0.1 - Messenger - Killed Night 1
5. Sighence - Copycat - Topsummoner
6. Aragorn Ix - unknown - no vote
7. SparkyAMS - Doctor - Pyro3000
8. Pyro3000 - Spy - Topsummoner

Of course none of these roles are actually confirmed, but they fit well together, and there hasn't been a single counter-claim. I'm inclined to believe these are all real role claims.

Currently we're at 5 villagers 2 mafia.

With no lynch tonight we're at 4 villagers 2 mafia during the night phase.

After a night kill 3 villagers 2 mafia.

Then we hit day phase. After lynching we'll either be 3 villagers and 1 mafia or 2 villagers and 2 mafia. Sighence just has to change sides to make it from 3 villagers to 1 mafia to 2 villagers and 2 mafia. Spiro just has to jump on any lynch that occurs to win.

We HAVE to kill tonight to win unless Sparky blocks a kill. But we already know that the mafia are going to kill him for the safe kill.

I cannot stress this enough. We LOSE if we do not lynch right here right now.

I'm starting to feel like Jack actually is mafia. I've already said that the letter I actually received said NOTHING OF VALUE. It seems odd to even focus on Frank's message at this point.

So maybe it's Top and Jack or Jack and Aragorn. right now I have 2 and Top has 2. The easier lynch is either one of us.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:54 pm 
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Pyro3000 wrote:
In fact, that brings me to 3 votes if I've counted that correctly.


You're at ONE vote! Jack is the only one voting for you :glare:

There has been a whole lot of Fuzzy Bunny that has come up and I don't know where to begin with it. I guess Monk quoting his role PM is just going to be allowed since it wasn't expressly forbidden in the rules, even though this kind of thing has been forbidden since the beginning of time here and should be at LEAST frowned upon?

We've got just over an hour left by my count to make something happen anyways.

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Currently we're at 5 villagers 2 mafia.

With no lynch tonight we're at 4 villagers 2 mafia during the night phase.

After a night kill 3 villagers 2 mafia.


...what? Where is the second death coming from

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:55 pm 
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Your rhetoric is not yourself. Pretty much the majority of the content you've posted is stating the obvious; numbers and pointless assessments. It's shallow information, it's podium talk.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 7:56 pm 
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Topsummoner he's at 2. Spirographed and myself.

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Jackstick wrote:
Topsummoner he's at 2. Spirographed and myself.


1. Jackstick -> Pyro3000
2. Topsummoner -> Spirographed
3. Spirographed -> SparkyAMS
4. Frank 4.0.1 - Killed Night 1
5. Sighence -> Topsummoner
6. Aragorn Ix
7. SparkyAMS
8. Pyro3000 ->Topsummoner

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 8:01 pm 
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I'm going to try and make this Pyro lynch happen. He's got no real evidence and is acting like he's got all the answers. He's probably being this aggressive because he feels like he can get away with it now that so many of us have voiced concern about voting for him.

My gut's been screaming at me to vote for him all day anyways. Less than an hour to go though.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 8:07 pm 
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In fact, that brings me to 3 votes if I've counted that correctly.


You're at ONE vote! Jack is the only one voting for you :glare:

There has been a whole lot of Fuzzy Bunny that has come up and I don't know where to begin with it. I guess Monk quoting his role PM is just going to be allowed since it wasn't expressly forbidden in the rules, even though this kind of thing has been forbidden since the beginning of time here and should be at LEAST frowned upon?

We've got just over an hour left by my count to make something happen anyways.

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Currently we're at 5 villagers 2 mafia.

With no lynch tonight we're at 4 villagers 2 mafia during the night phase.

After a night kill 3 villagers 2 mafia.


...what? Where is the second death coming from


Oh you're right I did two kills at once.

So 5:2 -> night phase

Night phase kill -> 4:2 day phase.

Day phase lynch 3:2 or 4:1 night phase.

so from here....

If Sighence switches in the 4:1 scenario we go to 3:2. A successful lynch means 3:1. Naturally we would go after Sighence after that for 2:0 after the nightkill.

If Sighence DOESN'T switch. then we have 3:2 or or 4:1. Which means after a lynch we either win or lose instantly.

if we don't kill any mafia...

5:2 -> night phase

after night kill 4:2 -> day phase

Day phase from 4:2 lynch for 3:2

Then if we kill a mafia, it goes to 3:! and sighence just changes sides to make it 2:2

So either way I'd say we really need to get a kill tonight if at all possible.

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Your rhetoric is not yourself. Pretty much the majority of the content you've posted is stating the obvious; numbers and pointless assessments. It's shallow information, it's podium talk.


I'm giving warnings. Warnings that inaction right now is going to guarantee a mafia win. You wanting to downplay that makes you extremely suspicious, but with 0 votes on you currently, trying to go after you would just spread the vote still and get a mafia win. You trying to discredit me while I'm voting for Top leads me to believe you two are working together.

If I was mafia my best course of action would have just been to keep the vote spread the way it was earlier.

The mafia gain NO BENEFIT from trying to push a lynch right now unless they're already in danger.

It's Top and Jack. It is absolutely Top and Jack. I am the only one with an investigative role. I can narrow this down tonight, but with Sighences role we're doomed if we don't get a mafia member dead today.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 8:09 pm 
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>We need to lynch today or we'll probably lose!
>The mafia's best course of action is to split the vote today!
>That's why they're both voting for me!

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 8:10 pm 
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Hell, I would even go for a lynch of Sighence if everyone wanted right now just to get him out of the equation but then we're still

4:2 into the night phase.

Night kill for 3:2

either lynch to 2:2 for a loss or 3:1 for an advantage with 2:1 after the night phase and then possibly a win.

In fact, killing Sighence while things are unsure might be our best shot.

If everyone wants to go for him to play it safe for now, I'm all for it. But he has 0 votes right now and I don't want to unvote from Top while he's at 2 unless we can guarantee a kill on Sighence.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 8:12 pm 
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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 8:13 pm 
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I'm the Village Mayor. My vote counts as 2 if I role claim.

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PostPosted: September 14th, 2016, 8:20 pm 
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I'm only at 3 total unless Jack really counts for 2.

So if I die tonight then Jack is innocent, but at the same time I guess he COULD be executioner.

I'm still saying it's Top and someone else, but Jack is seeming too suspicious suddenly.

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