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For the record, the three of us are in agreement, plus Monk and Lander. Godders and Riptide have yet to give opinions, which they should give. I am surprised that Henry would give a Not Guilty, seeing as he and Ex Rex are the only ones under suspicion. If Kikori proves himself and Ex Rex flips town, Henry is my next bet, because of earlier suspicion, and now his unwillingness to divert the suspicion on him to Ex Rex. On the flip-side, if Ex Rex flips town, I would bet Henry is as well, since a mafia would love to divert his own suspicion on to a suspicious townie like Ex Rex.

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In all honesty, I can't see how everyone thinks my nominating Penguin to make sure there was more day phase before mafia got another free kill is scummy. Basically, what I'm getting out of this is that you guys would like to have been down 2 people before even attempting real gameplay, with our detective rendered useless after Scar's assured death tonight.

Which, just so happens to be me. I'm gonna be the useless guy after tonight, if I even manage to live. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, and the truth is that my client is innocent. I investigate Kikori instead of going for a self-investigation out of faith in our host. I honestly couldn't see Top making me insane in such a small game, especially with there being a N0 for the mafia to get a free kill out.

THIS WHOLE DAMN COURT'S OUT OF ORDER AND I MOVE FOR DISMISSAL.

Any other bad court quotes I can make? Probably? Oh well, I've got enough bad quotes for one post.

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As for the possibility of a framer, sure it's possible. I don't think it's the case, however.

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Enlighten us as to why you don't think it's the case? Insanity is one thing, since you waste a night of self investigation. Framing is another, since "planting evidence" is a pretty damn popular theme in law.

The only unfortunate part of this scenario lies in that we don't have the villagers free to counterclaim. I suppose one could with some kind of signal. Say, rapidly voting and unvoting or something similar.

More tomorrow. Your second turned to 420 seconds and now it's more than I care to do math for. I'm going to bed before spewing my tired mind out here.

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Thanks Lou for the help with the avatar.

That would have seemed even more Scummy to me(speaking of Lander), because I believe Lander was active in the discussion of why we should deadlock instead of nominate in the first place. Rex stuck out to me, because before he explained himself just a few posts ago it seemed for all intents and purposes that he had randomly hopped in and forced a trial.

After looking at his reasoning, it does make sense.

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As for the Defense Attorney --> Doctor thing, I made that leap because the role name doesn't make sense. If the Nominated gets to choose their own Defense Attorney, what's the point of making a dedicated Role for it? Defense = Protection = Doctor is how my thought process developed on that one.

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Dunno. We'll get that one worked out when the role list comes out at the end of the game.
... Sucks to think the doc got hit night zero, three roleclaims later.

Barring somebody counterclaiming, that leaves us stuck today. Rex and Scar are two parts of a detective whole. The only reason I can't assume they're a Mafia power playing through this is that Scar did not instigate the choice of Rex. "If I can get my partner as the lawyer, he can claim detective half #2, and we're home free." That could not happen if he was not the instigator of the thought process behind Rex being the Lawyer.
Then there's Penguin. I don't have a gut feeling on him, nor does any of his logic stand out with red flags to me. Part of me knows he's pretty much the only option to pull the trigger on for the sake of self confirmation, but most of me knows it'd be a waste of a bullet.

Ugh. ;-;

The one new piece of info that stands out is Godders' vote. Post-Rex claim, "Guilty". Nobody else has established a way to signal a counterclaim by votes alone, so I can only assume mine is active. A rapid series of voting, that was not. I'm guessing Godders doesn't believe the claim, but isn't counter-claiming Detective. So once again, if any Jury catch this topic before five more hours pass. Thoughts on Rex?

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This is most unfortunate.

I am skeptical at Ex Rex's claim, mostly because of the nature of this phase, where he cannot be counter-claimed. Godder's Guilty after the claim sticks out to me as well, which could easily be an attempt at counter claim. However, it will probably be best to no-lynch today and not kill anyone, since if he's telling the truth he will probably be dead tomorrow, and the real detective will counter tomorrow.

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Well, this is probably gonna be the uphill battle from hell. But I won't shoot our detective-types and Penguin just isn't ringing enough bells in my mind to warrant any kind of bullet to the head. That leaves me as the unconfirmed with a bullet still in my gun, and I can't use it if on the Defendant's seat.

PenguinGuy. You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found not wanting. Verdict: Not Guilty.

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...Scar, not Rex? I can understand wanting to cripple the detective duo, but if Rex is the Gumshoe of the two, then he'd still have a chance to investigate.

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Not Lander? That can mean pretty much only one thing: Lander's our President. Godders and Dr Henry are the only other two thus far with no other info out there, and if all claims are true and my assumption is correct, are the only possible mafia targets left. Which one of them shall we try?

I can't, actually, Kikori. Mafia probably hit the right target. If I got my investigation pm out before the mafia sent in a kill pm for me, top may have given my result to Scar. But you know this already, because you're mafia.

Nominate: Kikori. I'm not getting any more results for my investigations, I may as well stick to the one I got. Your play during trial reeks of an attempt to hide the fact you can't deliver on your roleclaim.

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This, 110%.

Kikori knew full well we'd want to put him in the defendant's seat today, but that clever man has devised his role in such a way that this is impossible. Furthermore, he knew he would be judge *before* making that claim. Dare I say he knew he wouldn't necessarily have to use his role?

If there are two mafia, which there should be given the margin of error this game, we have some time left. If by happenstance there are three, we are now in a lynch or lose situation.

As I said before. Both Kikori's and Doc's hasty nominations 'yesterday' struck me as careless. And they both chose to nominate people who aren't 'power players', for whatever that's worth. Godders' immediate following of Doc's nomination with no input of his own also raises some flags to me.

I think Ex Rex's vote is entirely warranted. I will, however, be withholding mine until further notice for obvious reasons.

It is entirely possible that Ex Rex is lying, but given Scar's definition of the role and the current absence of a counterclaim, we have no choice but to believe him.

I think the President should claim. This would narrow down mafia targets and hopefully weed them out with false claims. I cannot lay claim to the President role, contrary to what Monk might think. I am, hilariously enough, a normal civilian.

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Right, I'm going to make this easier for us, as I think it could help.

I am the Security Guard, meaning I am bulletproof - I cannot be killed other than by the Judge saying I am guilty.

In this case, unless Kikori's claimed role doesn't let him one-shot kill as the defendant, I say we get him on the stand, with me as Lawyer, so he can prove both of us. If he cannot do this, then Monk says he is guilty and he dies.

Does that work? Or does Kikori's claimed role require something else to prove it? Obviously the best way for this is that if Kikori is lying, he can still be killed by Monk.

My money is on Godders being the other mafia though, gut feeling.

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Doc. He apparently cannot use his role if he's defendant. He can, however, if he is Plaintiff and you are the defendant.

So get in here, Kikori...and vote for Doc so we can see you for what you are, you dirty scumbag.

Note that all this plan does is confirm Kikori and/or Doc henry, with one of them ending up dead if both are town. Unless your vest doesn't get 'used up'?

If kikori is scum, then that's that. But we can still get him on as plaintiff, and he could shoot Monk and put the town down more players. I think the risk is too high, if Kikori is indeed scum.

Really, his claim makes sense that he's scum...it wouldn't necessarily be fair if he were defendant as mafia to be able to shoot someone, but if he is smart enough to get on the trial in another way, he could take advantage of the ability.

I dunno. I guess others should weigh in on it. But I think the risk runs too high.

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