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Jackstick: Well, that was productive...

Muffin Attak: I miss Frank.


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Beginning of Night 1

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Jackstick: Morning, Muffin.

Muffin Attak: Jack! Did you hear what happened last night?

Jackstick: Nah man, I was too busy playing Monopoly on Pogo, like everyone else should be doing. Every night, at around 11pm CST.

Muffin Attak: Dammit, Jackstick! You're an addict! You mean you didn't hear about what happened to Topsummoner and Godders?

Jackstick: Monopoly, every night. No exceptions.

Muffin Attak: It's pretty bad. Godders is dead. In fact, he's deader than dead. No visible bruises or wounds, but his eyes have gone completely black. It's almost like his soul was sucked out of his body. Jack, you may have been right about this "Demon" of yours.

Jackstick: Oh God, not Godders! And yes, of course I was right. The Nocturnal Detective is always right. No exceptions. So the Demon killed him?

Muffin Attak: It's possible. It's also possible that he was killed by someone who was acting on behalf of the Demon. But anyway, I'd say it's a good thing he's dead. Apparently a black knife was found in his home, an instrument of the Mafia. Freshly used, too. And that brings me to Topsummoner.

Jackstick: The Mafia killed Topsummoner?!

Muffin Attak: It's okay, he's fine. He's got knife wounds all over him, but somehow he was saved. Someone must have checked in on him last night, and that someone must have had the skills and tools to stabilize him.

Jackstick: Well, that's a relief. Let's hope today is more productive than yesterd- hey wait, was anything else found in Godders' home?

Muffin Attak: Oh, I almost forgot. He had a whole box of padlocks. Weird. What the hell could he use those for?

Jackstick: Huh, strange. Anyway, let's go see what everyone else is talking about.


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Godders, Mafia and Roleblocker, has died.


Beginning of Day 2

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Nice!
I think we can assume from the flavor text that Godders had no special roles attached. Either way, nice shot by the Demon.

Naturally wondering who helped Top out, but more than anything why him. Two posts. Too many veterans to assume something from it directly, not enough seriousness to have guessed something was found out in what he posted. I refuse to think two random picks lined up on night one again. Either way, glad to see you're still with us sir.

Top's lack of seriousness gives nothing, and Godders' interaction with Market was joking at best. Sigh.

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Added stuff to my post.

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Jack, would you mind putting summaries at the end of what we know, in list format, about the victims? Doesn't have to be extensive, just info that isn't embedded in flavor text for quick reference.

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Glad Top is still in the land of the living. Have to keep our numbers up and what not. Congrats to the doctor person for beating the odds and boo to Godders for being a Mafiosa.

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As much as I hate 'congratulating the doctor' posts, thanks. Unsure why I would be targeted, probably for more of a metagame purpose than anything to do with the game thusfar. The mafia probably just had a mad doctor WIFOM and thought I would be a safer target while still eliminating a threat.

THEY. WERE. WRONG.

I'm still unsure of what exactly the Demon is. The flavour text implies serial killer, but the win conditions of the game imply something more like a cult. Perhaps the Demon can kill AND convert? That would be a bit overpowered though and lead to very quick control of the game. Godders is a strange pick to kill anyways, especially since he died the first night of the previous game. I'm not going to discount the cult thing and assume the Demon wants to have more active players on its side than reactive, which is a possible motive for killing Godders. Still gives me no idea who it is though.

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guessing(not with a whole lot of effort) godders HAD a jailer type role.

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on another note. our doctors have won N1 this game, and last game. 2 game streak. cool.

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Based off what Jack says here:



I'd almost think Jailer or something?

Anyway, you've been rather quiet Paidea, care to tell us what you've been up to?

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So was Godders a roleblocker? Posted before he added to the thing. If so, I bet the detective is happy.

It sounds like there is just a demon and he steals/takes their souls. I think the win condition of 100% control means control of their souls. But, I am not willing to rule out cultists.

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I don't know, I don't see the point of the Third Party if all they can do is kill. I think at the very least they're a Cultist/Mafia hybrid. Otherwise it would be almost impossible for them to win if they had to whittle the Town and Mafia combined down to 2 or 3 members. Seems much more likely they win by converting and/or killing everyone else. Or reaching a majority.

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You are probably right Scar, there is most likely cultists. One has to wonder if the cult/demon know who the Mafia are? Would it be beneficial to hunt down the mafia as to lessen the risk for themself?

Would you consider the Serial Killer a third party role? From what I understand all they can do is kill.

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Yeah they were wrong, killing you wouldn't be eliminating a threat

If the Demon can kill and convert. but starts alone and is the only one of the 'cult' able to convert, it wouldn't be overpowered. Mafia kills Demon, entire faction is roleless. That is, of course, assuming that the Demon is responsible for both.

You sure you have no idea who it is? Not approached during the night by a cult offer? Anyone want to own up to that?

The assumption that their is an actual cult, rather than just a vigilante, should be checked.

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It's a relief to see that Top survived! Good job to whoever the Doctor is! It is also good that we haw one mafia member down.

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You can almost assuredly guess there's a cult / mason group because of the flavor text. Townspeople are becoming mindless, but not dying. The Demon is responsible. Check: Is the Demon a good guy, third party, or is it the Mafia growing their numbers? We've seen it can't be the last option via kill count, and by nature of being a demon shouldn't be a good guy. Third party is the logical choice.
You can safely say the Demon is responsible for Godders' death. Rather than wonder if it was Vigilante vs. Serial Killer style, I propose this to worry about: Is the Demon able to recruit and kill in the same night? There's a less comforting option of the Demon coming with someone pre-converted who's being used to carry out one action while the Demon does the other, but that's a bit of a stretch.

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There's another possibility: he can't recruit mafia, so he kills them. Mostly makes sense from a game balance perspective; a compromised mafia is a crippled mafia.

Well, since everyone else is speculating, I may as well throw in my thoughts. Jack mentioned these things:
-Mafia doesn't use bullets, they use knives.
-Someone was killed by either the demon, or someone on their behalf
-The demon can kill

Third party games are hard to balance, and Jack has said he's expecting this game to be long. My guess is that there's some sort of limiting factor on the demon's faction, so it might not be a good idea to think of it as a cult or a mason group. Maybe they don't know who each other are? Maybe they can only kill, not recruit? We don't know, but I wouldn't spend time worrying about how to deal with a cult or third party masons, because the fact as, they're dealt with the same- Hope that someone who can kill at night, mafia or vigilante or serial killer, kills them, and hope that the lynches are good ones. Sitting here speculating wastes time that could be spent lynching. There HAS to be some sort of limiting factor here though, otherwise this game is going to be really short.

So with that, I'm done with worthless speculation.



Kikori. I feel like this post is putting some doubt on Top's and/or a doctor's credibility. I think we should be careful in trusting confirmed villagers after the day they are confirmed (assuming I'm wrong about the demon running a cult), but at the moment what we know is that there is an individual the mafia saw fit to kill. That is one less person out of the group who is potentially mafia. We shouldn't waste today asking questions about it.

I would however be willing to change my vote to Paidea if he doesn't say something and/or defend himself soon though.

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Has anyone considered the possibility that the mafia (Godders) targeted the demon, rather than the other way around, hence Godders death? Monk suggested that the demon might not be able to recruit mafia, only kill them. Maybe the reverse is also true?

I'm not implying anything about Top's allegiance, this is totally conjecture, it just seems that there could be more to this than meets the eye.

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