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PostPosted: December 30th, 2006, 10:48 pm 
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OOC: First of all. . .Boxing Day? Never heard of it. . .use an actual date instead of some celebrated day.

And as for when it gets posted. . .like I said, it would probably be best to post it after the holidays. And that includes New Year's. It's all up to the next host, though. Hopefully the next host will be a decent one. Not to try and imply that Kikori isn't a good judge at all, I'm just saying. :wink:


If you had said "A decent one for a change", I would have been offended. And to avoid confusion saying "a decent one as well" would have worked. ;)

Top, Dark Lord Brolli called it sometime around mid-January. I dunno why he thinks the topic will need two judges, though.

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When did I say it would need 2 judges? If you wants to help, we can alternate between rulebreakers, but I never said I wanted 2 judges.


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Dark_Lord_Brolli wrote:
When did I say it would need 2 judges? If you wants to help, we can alternate between rulebreakers, but I never said I wanted 2 judges.


You never said you wanted two judges, but if I've not said it before, I'm saying it now. I'm being a judge, not a fighter. And this is basically a permenant desicion.

By the way, I'd prefer there be no rulebreakers rather than alternating between them. If you still plan on being a judge, fine, but just make sure you recognise rule breaker from rule bender, and don't get impatient if nobody ever breaks a rule. :-s

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Haha. You're funny, Kikori.

Unless you're not kidding, in which case you're being a total ass. You can't just declare yourself permanent judge of Battlefield. That's called dictatorship, and is frowned upon by most of the world's populous.

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That's called dictatorship, and is frowned upon by most of the world's populous.

Actually, with the right leader, dictatorship could work, because when you give all the power to the people, you get what's happening in the U.S.


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Hey, Brolli, let's NOT start a debate on the battlefield thread. >_> I'm not going to say anything about the workings of government so as to attract a reply from you, but if you want to debate about it go post a thread in the Debate Forum.

And being on topic *cough*Brolli*cough*, I'd have to agree with Ultima. Kikori, you can't say you're going to be the judge of the battlefield. The only judge, unless stated otherwise, is the host of the current battlefield. In which case, you're time as judge is up for the moment.

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Ultima wrote:
Haha. You're funny, Kikori.

Unless you're not kidding, in which case you're being a total <img src=http://runevillage.net/ThePub/images/smiles/bunny.gif></img>. You can't just declare yourself permanent judge of Battlefield. That's called dictatorship, and is frowned upon by most of the world's populous.


I'm not kidding because I've been clear through four battlefields. Twice i've worked to avoid the rule breaking and idiotic actions that occured in the first and second, and nobody has had an objection until now. I don't declare myself the permenant judge of it, I declare myself a perment judge among anyone else that wants to be one. I'd only ever fight if the rules were to my tastes.

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Hey, Brolli, let's NOT start a debate on the battlefield thread. >_> I'm not going to say anything about the workings of government so as to attract a reply from you, but if you want to debate about it go post a thread in the Debate Forum.

And being on topic *cough*Brolli*cough*, I'd have to agree with Ultima. Kikori, you can't say you're going to be the judge of the battlefield. The only judge, unless stated otherwise, is the host of the current battlefield. In which case, you're time as judge is up for the moment.


Fine words from someone who hasn't been on in roughly two weeks. I can easily say I'm going to be the judge, but I'm not doing that, because that gives the impression that i'm saying I'm going to be the only judge. I'll say this again, I'm a judge. One among however many others choose to be one as well.
As for the rule of "only the topic maker can be judge", that's news to me. Throughout the previous five battlefields, there's been no mention of anything of the sort. So if it's truly against the rules for me to try to judge on a battlefield that I didn't host, try to let me know sooner, before I start drawing unesccesary attention to myself for a mistake.

If you people really hate the idea of me being a judge, then I won't be, and that'll be that.

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Hrm. First of all, I honestly don't have any clue why me not being terribly active would have any effect on what we're talking about here. My being away has nothing to do with deciding who happens to be capable of judging.

And it's never been a concrete "rule" that the host is the only judge. It just seemed to me like etiquette to let the host be the one who judges the fight as he sees fit. That's the way I viewed it.

Also, quite honestly, I don't think anyone here wouldn't want you to help with the judging of a battlefield. But saying that you're going to be a permanent judge from now on. . .that's going a bit far, even you have to admit to that. Even if there are other judges, I still believe it should be up to the host as to whether or not someone else should judge with him.

But again, I'm sure everyone would agree to having you as a judge so I suppose its a moot point. Simply put, you probably shouldn't have just declared yourself a permanent judge like that. It seemed a bit rude, to me. Alright. . .enough posts edging towards anger to one another. Let's just. . .you know, try to calm ourselves down before Brolli posts BF5. Which actually brings me to a good point. . .I won't be joining the next one. Or any other unless I prove myself otherwise on the rare occasion. Which pretty much means. . .every other RP out there, so yes, Kikori, Fall of Crandor as well. I'm going to be devoting my time on RV from now on to the Literary Society forum. It's better for me this way, I think. I don't obtain hateful emotions towards those being stupid this way, eh?

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Hrm. First of all, I honestly don't have any clue why me not being terribly active would have any effect on what we're talking about here. My being away has nothing to do with deciding who happens to be capable of judging.

It wasn't your judgement it was affecting, it was moreso that you come in after two weeks of doing nothing and take command.

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And it's never been a concrete "rule" that the host is the only judge. It just seemed to me like etiquette to let the host be the one who judges the fight as he sees fit. That's the way I viewed it.

Then we have different views. It's foolishness to not expect conflict.

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Also, quite honestly, I don't think anyone here wouldn't want you to help with the judging of a battlefield. But saying that you're going to be a permanent judge from now on. . .that's going a bit far, even you have to admit to that. Even if there are other judges, I still believe it should be up to the host as to whether or not someone else should judge with him.

People need only say when they're tired of me judging and I'll stop. But nobody has had a complaint about it thus far.
And if you truly believe Dark Lord Brolli, on his own, is a capable judge, then vote me out and watch. I'm getting the same feeling in my gut as with the Castle Oblivion idea.

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If you think i'm angry about this, wrong. :P I'm smiling through the whole thing, and it seems a funny affair that we're... eh, debating over something as trivial as this.
It's a pity you aren't joining, you were one of the people who posted with common sense and actually paid attention to the actions of others. I'm looking foward to more work on Memento Mori, though.

Also, the "Fall of Crandor" topic is Znath's, not mine. Mine is the "One Choice". This is where lack of activity plays a role. :P Anyway, just at least tell Znath that you're leaving his topic rather than resume inactivity. You promised over two weeks ago that you'd attempt to become more active in the topic, and he's still gonna try to hold you to it until you flat out tell him you're quitting. And knowing you, it'll hopefully be broken a little softer than that. XD

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Wow, I missed a big debate. Happy New Year though!

Now, for all the BF fun to be brought with '07! Muhahaha. Shame I've had a cold since the 29th of Dec '06... Wasn't able to smell the New Years Air :P

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Kikori, I don't think you understand what we mean by judge. By judge, we mean the same thing as host. The person who gets the say in disqualification. You've only been the judge once. Now it's Brolli's turn.

Hopefully, he does well.

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Ultima wrote:
Kikori, I don't think you understand what we mean by judge. By judge, we mean the same thing as host. The person who gets the say in disqualification. You've only been the judge once. Now it's Brolli's turn.

Who is "we"? :-s

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Kikori, I don't think you understand what we mean by judge. By judge, we mean the same thing as host. The person who gets the say in disqualification. You've only been the judge once. Now it's Brolli's turn.

Who is "we"? :-s


He, Soren, and anyone else that argued with you. ;)

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Nice way to avoid the point, kikori.

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Actually, I'm just curious as to if everyone agrees with you or you're just uneseccarily saying "we". I've said my share about it already, any other points I'd bring up about this topic would be old.

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Your definition of judge wouldn't be an old point :wink:

I know it's we for Soren and I, but I dunno about Topsummoner.

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Ultima Cow wrote:
Your definition of judge wouldn't be an old point :wink:

I know it's we for Soren and I, but I dunno about Topsummoner.


Then if you truly want it...

Judge - Overseer of the law and the figure who determines the fates of those that do not uphold it.

And now at least I know by "we" you didn't mean "everyone on this topic except Kikori Kid". :P

EDIT: Ultima, is it my computer being stupid, or are your signature and avatar dead links? :?

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Right, let me rephrase that. Your defnition of a BF judge.

You didn't uphold the rules in the first three :-s I mean, you told people off when they were idiots, but I consider a BF Judge as someone who actually has trhe authority to do something about it.

And yes. Damn my sig. XD

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Ultima Cow wrote:
Right, let me rephrase that. Your defnition of a BF judge.

You didn't uphold the rules in the first three :-s I mean, you told people off when they were idiots, but I consider a BF Judge as someone who actually has trhe authority to do something about it.

And yes. Damn my sig. XD


You only have to turn the word "law" into "rules" to turn that into the definition for a battlefield judge.

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Since I'm slightly confused I'm going to ask here. You guys aren't roleplaying right now you're arguing. What I don't get is what you're arguing about. Can you please explain?

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