Cut that crap out; not voting or killing someone because they're a "newcomer" annoys me to no end. If the Mafia thinks I'm a Detective or something then they should kill me Night 1. Anything else is unfair to the rest of the players and I will not stand for it.

As for my role...it's Village-aligned, but I'm not going to outright say what type it is. Suffice it to say that I think we (aka the Village) have a better chance of winning if no one knows it.I'm totally keen on it actually. There's always the off-chance that he's telling the truth, but Kikori is plenty crafty enough to claim something powerful, knowing it'll keep people away. In fact, I'd vote for him right now (not really gonna affect me unless I'm the hammer, is it?) if not for the rest of my post below.I probably used to be. But although I kept up with everything in real-time because it was the weekend, I purposefully only posted once during Day 1 (and Day 1 only.) Things have changed since you left the building the LD game days, and now apparently anyone who posts Day 1 gets randomly voted for. There was also so much hypocrisy going on that I wasn't even going to bother putting myself in a position where I had to debate it.However.

That being said, and given that I intend to read and post on this topic every day, my job takes the first 11 hours of my day, every day. The earliest you can probably expect to see a post of mine is 7 PM CST. If this is a problem, lynch me. But I doubt that someone that visits and posts every day can be called inactive. (Not that you did. Just...preemptively.)

AND FINALLY, A DECISION.

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You're calling me out on being quiet, but I visit every day. Do you? I do not honestly believe that over the course of 36 hours, you forgot to send in a night action. You role-claimed Day 1, so you knew people were going to want to know what it was! I don't care if you do have finals--it takes all of 60 seconds to log in, send a PM with a name in it to Godders, and log back out. Way too convenient. (And then there's the blurb Kikori pointed out about being blocked too so I'm not even sure what your story is anymore.)

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Well this is eventful, and reading and posting on my phone isn't my preferred way of playing but I shall be back to my laptop tomorrow so will re-read all then.

Firstly, at Kik: I messaged Godders when I first got the PM to check, but I can confirm that if I am attacked at night, he WILL post that I survive. Therefore, confirm me at will.

Next, Jekyll and Hyde... Well realistically the mafia should want to kill off the Doctor, and the town should want to kill off Hyde. Whilst not viewing them as a priority right now, I definitely do not think they should be left to live.

On to Monk. Not 100% sure on l claim right now. He acted Scummy yesterday, was under threat, claimed a role which is difficult to prove (he is now making up a Watcher too) when the framer confirms a Detective. I dont think we will have all 3roles in the game. That, and claiming being role locked gives him a spare night to survive, whilst then making up a random track the next day when you decide who to turn the town against

Still heavily suspicious of Kik atm but I am going to shift my vote to Monk now.

Ninja'd by Jaron, but seems like we are off the same opinion.

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So let me get this straight. You are, of your own volition, using the Jekyll/Hyde names, we have a second killing role, and you expect us to believe someone else is a killer?

That's not how Jekyll/Hyde has ever worked since its literary inception.


That bit, is, admittedly, a wild guess for balance's sake.

Then again, we're also assuming you can actually protect. That's a pretty bold assumption at this rate.

Sayaka, read better.

Since you're at least the third by my count to mess this up:

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED LAST NIGHT.

It takes less than 60 seconds to read a damned post properly like so many before you have. I'll be right back on you after I'm done with this pair.

One of Monk or Top is lying. I could easily beleive both at this point.

How do I know? I am the Watcher.

But, I am not just a watcher. My role lets me see who visits a target, but also who they visited. I was very dubious at Monk's initial claim, seeing as his role overlapped with mine, but by the time I saw it all the votes were off with about an hour left, and I figured (counter)roleclaiming would not be effective, and seeing as the vig/SK hit mafia, for the better. As for my report:

Topsummoner fumbled into Monk's house, then stumbled off the streets, Monk went nowhere.

Either Monk is lying and is not tracker and Top is doctor, or Top is lying and is a mafia roleblocker.

I truly have no idea at this point.

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You're using 'close to lynch' as your argument now? Just give up. You've been seen going into my house, and I was seen going nowhere. There's but one dot to connect there, if that.

both your arguments are pretty weak. but monk



why dont you go a little further and explain this.
if you have something to say, say it. before its to late.

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arguing your defense is what i meant. i thought that was pretty obvious.

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You roleclaimed Tracker as an explanation for 'acting outside of your norm'. As a Mafia Member, you knew at that point there was a Framer, and ergo a Detective. Therefore, you could extrapolate (since the density of roles wasn't yet apparent) that there was probably not a Tracker, so it was a fairly important role you could claim unchallenged.

Being a Tracker, especially when you hadn't yet any reports, does not excuse different behavior. The fact of the matter is you were playing a bad game as Mafia, something that Henry, Kikori, Lander, and myself saw.

Next point is a bit of meta-data, but you claim your inactivity was due to finals week? You were playing games on Steam and hadn't yet posted here. Don't give us that crap.

How convenient is the 'I was roleblocked' excuse, especially when there is another known roleblocker. In actuality, a Tracker report is very difficult to fake, especially in the sheer role density of this game. It's very easy to mess it up, so you didn't even try.

You were the one who figured it out, that Lander and I are Hyde and Jekyll. You're arguing from story details that Hyde must be a serial killer, but then you're also trying to argue that Dr. Jekyll would be anything OTHER than a doctor?

You could NOT have been roleblocked. The only person in your house was Dr. Jekyll, a DOCTOR. You are LYING.

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oh hah! i misread your message top. you wernt formulating an argument against me. nvm my last post.

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1 | Dr Henry - Claimed Bullet Proof
2 | Aragorn Ix - Nothing
3 | Scar - Survivor, Slain Night One
4 | Market Man6 - Nothing
5 | Landerpurex - Claimed Granny, Top says Mr. Hyde
6 | Kikori - Claimed Bomb
7 | Monk Basher - Claimed Tracker
8 | Topsummoner - Claimed Dr. Jeykll
9 | Riptide - Nothing
10| Ex Rex - Nothing
11| Penguinguy - Watcher/Tracker Hybrid
12| Sayaka - Town Aligned Power Role
13| CODfisherMW2 - Nothing
14| Animal - Framer, Slain Night One

Six People have not claimed, the roles we beleive are Detective, Killing role (may or may not be Lander), Jailer. With 14 players, there is likely 4 mafia, and with Animal dead that makes 3 alive. Seeing the massive power of the town, it is likely all of the mafia have power. So probably a Godfather, they had a framer,a roleblocker, a juggernaut, a ninja, seeing as those would negate the town power roles we have seen. Framer counters a detective, juggernaut counters the doctor and jailer, ninja counters the tracker and watcher, roleblocker would counter anything. This is of course speculation, but so far all the roles minus Jekyll and Hyde are fairly common roles.

As for Monk and Top, Top might be a mafia roleblocker, blocking the only claimed role, and then attacking him as fake when he doesn't produce anything.
Monk might be Mafia, royally screwing up day one forcing him into a fake claim, not calling a report in fear someone disproves it. This means that Top is Dr. Jekyll and Lander is Mr. Hyde, in some sort of lover pair.

All things considered, I doubt there would be a Tracker AND a Watcher/Tracker hybrid, and even without roles Monk has been one of the scummiest so far. Monk Basher

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Juggernaut? Did I miss someone claim that or something, what is it?

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No, juggernaut is also called strongman or assassin. They are a mafia goon who can (usually once) get a guaranteed kill, regardless of doctors, jailers, bulletproof, ect. Was speculating on that, would make sense with a claimed bullet proof, jailer, and doctor.

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Yeah I was pretty screwed when it turned out watcher/tracker are lumped together. (wtf godders)

However, no bullshit: top may be a doctor, but he is not [/i]your[/i] doctor. You should kill him next.

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monk well, that about solves that.

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I don't count it as messing up when your explanation sucks:I don't know what The Silver Blaze is, so I'll edit that reference out in my mind.Hmm? You did nothing last night? And unwittingly, as in "that wasn't very smart of me", or as having no wit? How do you not read that as "I made a stupid move and didn't send in a night action"? Maybe you should read your own "damned posts" properly before submitting them.

But with PenguinGuy's explanation that no one but Top entered your house, I find it even more hard to believe you were actually roleblocked, and feel better about my vote. I won't be changing it.

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oh dammit monk don't ninja me when i'm making very annoyed posts against you it's not fair!

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Monk basically just confirmed that he's scum. Though we gotta give the guy some props, he's been playing from behind all game.

And now I'll clear the air about Top and myself. We are indeed Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I am Mr. Hyde. I am also your serial killer (vigilante). We are third party, but we win with the town. We also count towards your numbers vs the mafia, so wanting to kill us is very, very stupid. And yes, if one of us dies, we both die. Leaving you all down two people versus the mafia. I killed Animal last night on a hunch, and it paid off, for once. I am targeting the mafia.

The whole paranoid gun owner/granny was a lie, a crappy one, given the nature of Top and my roles. We both need to survive in order to win.

I can confirm that Top is a Nurse, AKA backup doctor. I was told this via PM from Godders. Penguin should be able to confirm this as well. Because Monk will flip scum, and Top (if scum) would not be visiting one of his own brethren.

It also goes without saying that when Monk flips scum, you should discount everything he's telling you to do. Top and I win with the town. We play better as townies. I killed a mafioso. He visited someone who had claimed a role and he thought was town. What more evidence do you need?

So, the bottom line is: is Top going to save himself, me, or someone else tonight? Good luck, mafia. And you'll be very, very lucky if I do not kill another mafioso tonight. It's as easy as looking at those who weren't on Monk's train.

I invite Penguin to watch me tonight. The person I visit will turn up dead. Unless of course, I am roleblocked. But if I am the mafia's priority, then the rest of the role-ridden town isn't.

We're in a very good position. Don't it up.

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Also, if by chance myself and Top end up dead tonight, revisit Day One and today. Check who did and did not vote for Monk.

Assuming he flips scum. I took his "i was screwed" statement and self vote as a mafia ragequit.

I believe now that both Kikori and Doc Henry are town. They were driving forces against Monk on D1.

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Conversely, if I die and Monk happens to flip town, look at those who DID vote for him. Furthermore, look for those who voted for him with little to no reasoning.

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