Lack of Roleplays (A Discussion)

Tahu 1000 · **Posted:** June 2nd, 2008, 6:51 pm

For anyone who hasn't noticed, I've made an RP for people to join, Team Torture. Please join if you can.

Kikori · **Posted:** June 2nd, 2008, 11:24 pm

I noticed. It's another battlefield-esque roleplay, and if you haven't noticed, I've stepped away from them for a long while.

Anonymous Person's review of the roleplay wrote:

Yeah, his looks like something of a "defend from the waves of NPC's". It might work for the people that like godmodding or just showing off, but I can't see any sort of plot coming from it.

That about sums up how I feel about it. Maybe if I get the urge to take a very explosive character and tear through countless NPC's, I will, join it, but I find it easier and more fun to write a short story of 1 vs. 1,000.

Speaking of writing a short story, the other thing bothering me from joining is that your character must already be known or be put within a certain ruleset... This keeps me from taking characters from my imagination and defining his / her abilities and flaws myself, which I prefer to do as compared to using an existing character. (Someone remind me why I didn't join the Custom Characters fight? ^_^;

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Topsummoner · **Posted:** June 3rd, 2008, 5:51 am

kikori kid wrote:

(Someone remind me why I didn't join the Custom Characters fight? ^_^;

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Because I hosted it 8-)

Tahu 1000 · **Posted:** June 3rd, 2008, 7:47 am

Sorry about the blandness of my Roleplay, but right now it's all I feel that I can really do. I'll try to make a more story-oriented RP, but I'm not sure how it'll turn out.
First, though, how would people like a testing ground for future Battlefields? A place to test characters, see how they work, get some rulings on their power...though I'd defer those rulings to Jaron or someone else.

Chipp · **Posted:** June 3rd, 2008, 1:06 pm

Tahu 1000 wrote:

Sorry about the blandness of my Roleplay, but right now it's all I feel that I can really do. I'll try to make a more story-oriented RP, but I'm not sure how it'll turn out.
First, though, how would people like a testing ground for future Battlefields? A place to test characters, see how they work, get some rulings on their power...though I'd defer those rulings to Jaron or someone else.

I think a 'testing ground' would be totally unnecessary, it would be like just another battlefield topic

Saten Ruiko · **Posted:** June 3rd, 2008, 3:37 pm

Tahu 1000 wrote:

Sorry about the blandness of my Roleplay, but right now it's all I feel that I can really do. I'll try to make a more story-oriented RP, but I'm not sure how it'll turn out.
First, though, how would people like a testing ground for future Battlefields? A place to test characters, see how they work, get some rulings on their power...though I'd defer those rulings to Jaron or someone else.

For an actual "ruling" on their power, they'd have to have a judge in a "test" RP, and I doubt very few people would sign up to judge something that in the end doesn't matter whatsoever. Battlefields in themselves are testing grounds, where your power is seen and compensated for as you go, really.

Tahu 1000 · **Posted:** June 4th, 2008, 8:01 am

I guess the point would be precedents. UC almost let me join BF7 as Takutanuva. Even when I played as Lhikan, we had problems with the relative power of the Kanohi Hau and what counted as fire (I'm going to go out on a limb here and say if it causes burns, it's either fire or heat). A testing ground would work out those issues ahead of time, meaning we wouldn't need three Battlefields to decide that the Bionicle universe is just overpowered compared to the worlds of flesh and blood.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** June 4th, 2008, 10:14 am

Tahu 1000 wrote:

I guess the point would be precedents. UC almost let me join BF7 as Takutanuva. Even when I played as Lhikan, we had problems with the relative power of the Kanohi Hau and what counted as fire (I'm going to go out on a limb here and say if it causes burns, it's either fire or heat). A testing ground would work out those issues ahead of time, meaning we wouldn't need three Battlefields to decide that the Bionicle universe is just overpowered compared to the worlds of flesh and blood.

Bionicles aren't too powerful for battlefields. It's that you try and make every character you use into a god. You overestimate everyone you use and underestimate your opponents. In the last battlefield you kept using techniques you didn't understand and made your own. One of them being an auto-kill for anyone that get's within a few meters.

Saten Ruiko · **Posted:** June 4th, 2008, 10:59 am

Tahu 1000 wrote:

(I'm going to go out on a limb here and say if it causes burns, it's either fire or heat).

First sentence of "Burn" on Wikipedia:

Quote:

A burn is an injury caused by heat, cold, electricity, chemicals, light, radiation, or friction.

And thus this is where all the debates usually begin. Some assumptions need to be made in roleplays, sure, but some just go too far.

Tahu 1000 · **Posted:** June 4th, 2008, 12:24 pm

Just try to tell me Deidara's explosions cause burns through cold. Radiation or chemicals are out because he handles the clay with his bare hands and carries it in a bag (plus a chemical burn is heat from a chemical reaction). Friction burns are really heat, just from a different source. Electricity burns are heat from the passing electricity, and the same can be said about light (you notice how sunburns feel hot?) Plus, smoking burns are usually caused by fire or heat. Conclusion: Deidara's bombs must deal damage through heat or something that causes heat.
However, that debate's past. So's the one about Lewa controlling liquid. The point is that in the actual Battlefields, we'd have less of that, because it would be in a separate topic. You could even go so far as to say any character used in Battlefield needs to have been cleared in a testing ground.

Kikori · **Posted:** June 4th, 2008, 2:16 pm

No they don't. It's up to the poster to determine the power of the character. If you saw the very first battlefield, where I used Uchiha Itachi, I was using one of the most powerful ninja from the Naruto series. Despite lack of experience in roleplay, I tried to set a limit for his power, and I knew when to take a wound. Albeit I broke one rule that wasn't yet written; don't give characters powers they don't have. (In the roleplay, I had Itachi unlock the gates and die after a burst of power), but control over characters from me has increased greatly. This means that I don't have to use a god to be powerful, and I know how to set limits to a god's power.

So do I need a testing ground for any character? No. However, consider someone who wants to use the full extent of a character's power, like you, so they don't have to bend rules like the mistake I made in the first battlefield. Same character, even, Uchiha Itachi. An immense amount of chakra, a very autokill-ish flame technique, an illusion that will leave anyone paralyzed for about half an hour, flawless shadow clone useage... and still mortal. Where's the limit? That's for the poster to find out, and make. Should you make a topic to test out the moves yourself? No, that's what the judges are for on a normal battlefield, as well as other posters. You see the moves as in check, usually, because it's your ideas. However, other people, especially those who know the characters, will know when you're not paying attention to the move's limits or the consequences of using it (such as the flame technique, Amaterasu, using up ~30% of Itachi's chakra). Another part of character control is correcting the mistake... and usually by NOT god-modding, but by editing in or later posting the effects you missed.

If a character is so blatantly overpowered that even the best of character control can't bring him / her down to a mortal plane, it's common sense; don't use him / her.

Znath · **Posted:** June 4th, 2008, 9:12 pm

It is kind of like how in smash bros. Samus can apparently be beaten
by something like a pikachu. When normally in the game Samus can
take on entire armies and giant flying metal space dragons. So then
in that game the characters are balanced out to make it fair.
Otherwise everyone would simply be picking Samus all the time.

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** June 4th, 2008, 9:41 pm

Znath wrote:

It is kind of like how in smash bros. Samus can apparently be beaten
by something like a pikachu. When normally in the game Samus can
take on entire armies and giant flying metal space dragons. So then
in that game the characters are balanced out to make it fair.
Otherwise everyone would simply be picking Samus all the time.

Someone hasn't seen the first season of pokemon >:O

Tahu explosions aren't just heat. they have a lot of force behind them. And a chemical burn isn't heat. A chemical burn is when the chemical has ate away at your skin.

Tahu 1000 · **Posted:** June 5th, 2008, 6:38 am

Through a chemical reaction, which most likely is exothermic. If it's not producing heat, then it's probably not a burn (You ever see someone dissolve from acid in a movie? That doesn't seem to be a burn to me).
Point aside, then what are we going to do so people like me who like to roleplay aren't left out in the cold simply because they got beat and now the next Battlefield can't start for a month because the people still in it can't hurry up?

Pyro3000 · **Posted:** June 5th, 2008, 8:04 am

chemical reactions and chemical burns are two different things. Getting burned by the heat given off by a chemical isn't a chemical burn. Just a burn. And I don't think I've ever seen a movie where someone melted in acid. Last I checked the acid ate away at their skin. Go find a busted battery and rub it all over you and tell me that it's heat that's burning you.

As for what to do when you're out of an RP... play a game or something. It's not like you're on the RP 24/7 anyway. people usually make 1-3 posts a day and that's it.

Saten Ruiko · **Posted:** June 5th, 2008, 1:47 pm

Tahu 1000 wrote:

Point aside, then what are we going to do so people like me who like to roleplay aren't left out in the cold simply because they got beat and now the next Battlefield can't start for a month because the people still in it can't hurry up?

You have to either patiently wait for the current Battlefield to finish or find a new roleplay to join. Some forums dedicate the entire board to RPs, maybe join there as you wait for the finalists of BFs to die?

Tahu 1000 · **Posted:** June 5th, 2008, 3:00 pm

I try, but like I said before, the last one I joined died. Plus, it had one big battle and then nothing. Lots of debate about Muggle-borns and stuff, but no actual dueling (going to try to fix that).

Topsummoner · **Posted:** June 5th, 2008, 3:38 pm

The title of this topic should be -

Even Tahu deserves more respect than that.
~Kikori

Stip45 · **Posted:** June 6th, 2008, 3:48 am

Tahu 1000 wrote:

Point aside, then what are we going to do so people like me who like to roleplay aren't left out in the cold simply because they got beat and now the next Battlefield can't start for a month because the people still in it can't hurry up?

Because the future host of BFX is also one of "the people still in it [that] can't hurry up"

Also, if an RP-specific board you joined dies or is not interesting to you, just find another that's focussed on fighting instead of serious RP's.

~Stip~

Tahu 1000 · **Posted:** June 7th, 2008, 7:24 am

And yet if I Google for a roleplay forum, I'm likely going to have to try many to find a good, active one. The other RP I'm in was recommended to me by a friend at school.

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