Okay, mobile browser posting. Prepare yourselves for total nonsense blather and repetitive posting! Market, care to explain what you are doing following people? You also didn't join the Jack train, there's still debates whether it was productive. But, at least others are adding to the conversation.

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You followed someone to your own place? How is that a vanilla role?

Market, care to offer an explanation?

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Doesn't sound very Vanillary to me...

Blue, are you a watcher or a tracker then? Did you follow Market or watch yourself?

The fact that you didn't die/get attacked at least means he wasn't there to kill you, and the other common mafia role is roleblocker, which means you wouldn't have been able to see that it was Market.

Market, explain yourself!

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That's the Tracker role, which is among the possible roles Paidea listed, along with the Janitor role which is responsible for Frisky's role being obscured.

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Tracker/Stalker combo is the only one that fits current info. We're nowhere near any endgame scenario; blue's sacrificing himself needlessly if he's wrong/mafia.

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I'm the tracker, but I'd like to hear what Market has to say before any more votes are cast on him.

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Something that sticks out to me here, is that someone cleaned up the crime scene... does this mean there is also a mafia aligned janitor role?

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Ahh, ok thanks for clearing that up. I was reading the guide, and it says janitor can either be mafia or town aligned.

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...I can't think of any reason why a janitor would be town aligned. Top, I don't suppose you've ever seen a townie janitor? I can't even think how that would be a good thing.

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k. done work.

the first thing i thought of when i was catching up, was red flags. why the flip bluecoat would call me out like that but not vote for me. it seemed highly contradictory... as if he was trying to leave an opening to escape from. like a massive rolefish that if it started to bring too much attention to him, he could try to squeak out of.
but that thought was offset by: if he was actually mafia and attempting this, why would he want so much attention to himself? the reply to that was: what if frisky was the tracker, and blue, you discovered this when you cleaned up the crime scene. then you would know your claim of tracker would go unchallenged.
basically, if you cant back up your story, i will vote for you. who did you track last night? if they cant confirm your story, then you, sir, are mafia.

and, to answer your question. i am the watcher.
and unlike you(unless your claim to tracker is ligitamate), i can back up my role.
first night, i watched your house. but the reason i am so weary of your roleclaim, is because i was told that i didnt see you leave your house.
last night, I went to visit jacksticks house. he, too, didnt leave.


@imasquid, i wasnt tracking people. i was going to blues house when he followed me.
and i didnt join the jack train because i dont know. im not convinced he is mafia. and at the very least, his "play style" is generating activity.

@aragorn, either he is the tracker, a mafia rolefishing, or mafia stalker.

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Bullshit. I did leave. Last night I went to set some flowers on PenguinGuy's doorstep.

They were chrysanthemums, if you're wondering.

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I have to agree with Market here. I would like to here if Blue can back up his claim as well.

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Problem with your logic about me Market: I said I visited you, you confirmed that. A janitor couldn't unless they got insanely lucky.

You are right though: I'm lying. And I did out you with the intention of jumping ship, which is why I didn't vote for you.

I am the watcher, and I watched my own house N1, and again last night (I received no visitors), figuring I would be a high priority target for mafia. I took a gamble, hoping I was throwing the doctor to the mafia. Then I could watch your house (stalker wouldn't be a threat to the mafia), and see the goon who killed you as well as a janitor (with any luck). move, but this was going to be boring otherwise, and I could give a crap about proper mafia game strategy anymore.

I was not prepared for a second detection role, particularly another watcher/tracker role. Good news is, I have an ultimatum prepared for just such a situation: the mafia wouldn't dare attack either of us at this point, as they'll have a 50/50 chance of succeeding (I believe). And if they do, at least one of us is a watcher, and there is always the chance that one of us is using their powers on the other.

Anyway, onto my vote. The other reason for this fiasco on my part was to generate legitimate activity that isn't just trains on Jack (like that would provide any actual information). imasquid jumped all over the most intentionally argument I could cobble together, basically parroting what I said. I think that he was mafia who became eager when he saw an opportunity to jump on someone likely to have a village power role.

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Wait wait wait, you watched yourself, received no visitors, and still believe his roleclaim? 95% sure tracker-watcher interactions don't work that way, and if it does, it shouldn't.

First night he visited me. Second night he didn't.

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Hi blue, I was actually just trying to invoke a reaction out of Market in his usual fashion. I like irony like that. I don't know if it was the trap you set or the pressure that he might have been found out, but it seems like market might have slipped.

From my viewpoint, and Kiss', and seemingly yours, you have him pinned. One of you two has to be mafia. There are too many discrepancies. Based on your logic it looks like he is the mafioso, but why would you vote for me if you found his muck up? I am going to unvote for now, we don't want to mislynch here. Your night actions have served only to protect yourself and I don't trust that.

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Damnit, I knew somethign didn't add up right. Where's this 50/50 stuff coming from when we're told that there are two town and one mafia special roles? We now know the mafia has the janitor. If the remaining two are watcher/tracker, that makes for a 100% chance of a kill going through. Or are you proposing that you two watch each other perpetually?

Nah, pulling the wool over my eyes won't work. Cashmere, maybe.

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There's only two village roles? I don't remember him mentioning that, but I'm probably wrong in that case. Well, I guess that means we're perpetually watching each other.

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