Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: D6: Scum keep tub

Topsummoner · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:47 pm

I hosted a variant Dethy game at one point long ago as one of the first variants. And a second one with a larger variant of the variant. But not within an "normal" game.

It's the only thing I can think of to explain three Detective claims though.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:48 pm

unvote

One of two things is happening here. Monk has (theoretically) included every god damned variation of certain roles that he can manage.

Or the mafia is mass claiming under *someone's* direction to confuse us.

I'm now playing this game under protest. I was told it would be a normal game, more or less. If there are this many roles, this game is nowhere near normal.

Ninja'ed.

So Doc. You're a vanilla townie then?

Dr Henry · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:49 pm

Topsummoner wrote:

I hosted a variant Dethy game at one point long ago as one of the first variants. And a second one with a larger variant of the variant. But not within an "normal" game.

It's the only thing I can think of to explain three Detective claims though.

I was thinking that, hence asking for a fourth (if one of them only gets scum claims, the other would only get innocent to counter that).

'only thing to explain three detectives' is wrong though. Fake roleclaiming also does that.

My vote for you stands.

Riptide · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:49 pm

Jeez. These shenanigans.

Still sticking with my accusation on Kikori. My claim is the true one.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:51 pm

Unvote

If there can be multiple Detectives, there can be multiple Doctors.

@ Henry

I don't see two+ Mafia fakeclaiming the same thing. Why would villagers be fakeclaiming?

Dr Henry · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:53 pm

Landerpurex wrote:

unvote

One of two things is happening here. Monk has (theoretically) included every god damned variation of certain roles that he can manage.

Or the mafia is mass claiming under *someone's* direction to confuse us.

I'm now playing this game under protest. I was told it would be a normal game, more or less. If there are this many roles, this game is nowhere near normal.

Ninja'ed.

So Doc. You're a vanilla townie then?

Yeah. So either everyone else in this bloody game has a role of some sort but me, or there is a lot of fake roleclaiming.

I'd vote for the latter. Alongside the mafia mass claiming to confuse us. I think Godders is legit. Riptide took so long to come forward because he had to read his mafia cohorts plan. Perhaps (only perhaps) Kikori is clear here, leaving Top, Ex Rex and Riptide and the three I believe to be mafia (unless we have 4? That would include Kik).

@Top.

Mafia be crazy. Pulling a stunt like this, we have to decide between mafia and legit roles, with hesitations giving the mafia chances to kill off the non-claiming vanillas, as well as possibly killing off our own doctor/detective.

Sounds like something that would need a veteran or two to orchestrate. Kikori, Top, Ex Rex and Riptide. Those are the four I name as mafia. Kikori isn't roleclaiming on the off-chance that the scheme fails so he can once again be distanced.

This is what I believe right now.

Riptide · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:54 pm

Topsummoner wrote:

Unvote

If there can be multiple Detectives, there can be multiple Doctors.

@ Henry

I don't see two+ Mafia fakeclaiming the same thing. Why would villagers be fakeclaiming?

The Mafia could generally be confusing us. Since Rex claimed as well, and if this isn't Dethy, then the Mafia is probably full of shenanigans.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:56 pm

Here's another possiblity. The mafia haven't claimed at all yet. There is actually multiple detectives and doctors.

This would leave the unclaimed as potential scum.

Kikori, Scar, Market, You, Aragorn, and Tahu.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:56 pm

You being Henry. ^ in that post

Dr Henry · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:58 pm

Topsummoner wrote:

Here's another possiblity. The mafia haven't claimed at all yet. There is actually multiple detectives and doctors.

This would leave the unclaimed as potential scum.

Kikori, Scar, Market, You, Aragorn, and Tahu.

Forgot Tahu was even in the game o.O

Yeah, it is a possibility. There a lots of possibilities. I have named the one I believe to be true. I'm rarely correct in these games, so if I'm wrong I wont take it too badly... but I'm really trying to be on the ball this game so if I am correct I will be VERY HAPPY and maybe even do a dance.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 6:59 pm

Dr Henry

Dr Henry · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:01 pm

Topsummoner wrote:

Dr Henry

Very nice OMGUS.

Monk Basher wrote:

This'll be a mostly-standard mafia game. Doing crazy things turns out badly for me.

Dethy seems like a crazy thing, since it was hosted as a VARIANT.

Bored of the mafia trying to make things much more complicated than they need to be. I've explained my thoughts enough, now I'm going to sleep as I have a phone interview in about 9 hours. I look forward to hearing what others make of this in that time - namely Tahu.

Scar · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:09 pm

Unvote for now, my brain went into a bit of an overload with all these claims...I'm not at all certain what to think at the moment

Scar · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:09 pm

Unvote for now, my brain went into a bit of an overload with all these claims...I'm not at all certain what to think at the moment

Landerpurex · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:10 pm

Kikori hasn't claimed because he's likely been at work. He hasn't seen any of this nonsense. I'm eagerly awaiting his reaction.

At any rate, the best guess I can come up with at this point is Market Man6 once more.

Doc gets a FOS because...vanilla townie doesn't seem likely to me all of the sudden. As mafia with a bunch of people claiming, it's always easier to claim vanilla as you're less likely to get caught in your lie that way.

TOP: You CAN or CAN NOT protect the same person consecutive nights?

I'm also very suspicious of Scar.

Topsummoner · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:11 pm

Dr Henry wrote:

Very nice OMGUS.

Not an OMGUS. I have reasons, which I have given. Not to mention you voted me a while ago and things have changed since then which have prompted my vote.

@ Lander

I can't.

Riptide · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:12 pm

Topsummoner wrote:

Clearly you've never heard of detective sanities.

Sane - Investigates people normally.

Insane - Receives opposite results from people (mafia appear villager, villager appear mafia). Investigating yourself and receiving a mafia result will tell you you're insane.

Less common are the following:

Paranoid: Everyone appears mafia.

Naive: Everyone appears villager.

Random: Results are random.

Either you're not really the Detective, or you're Insane.

Since Rex also said Kikori was scummy... And Monk was screwing with us when he said this was normal... We can't have two insane detectives. So one of us could be paranoid and the other sane?

Topsummoner · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:15 pm

I'm going to assume there's no Random detective because there's no way to test that and it's really unfair.

Godders - Investigated me, came up Guilty. Insane or Paranoid.

Ex Rex - Investigated Kikori, came up Innocent. Sane, Insane, or Naive.

Riptide - Investigated Kikori, came up Guilty. Sane, Insane, or Paranoid.

There should be one more detective out there to round out the set of four classic dethy detectives.

Landerpurex · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:18 pm

I'm gonna be extra pissed off if this really is how this is set up.

Since we can't trade protects, Top, I really have no plan of action. I'll likely protect whichever detective I determine to be most likely to be sane. Or insane, as it were, because they're just as useful once they're figured out.

Riptide · **Posted:** April 25th, 2012, 7:21 pm

My brain wants to explode. ._.

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