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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 24th, 2013, 6:10 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 24th, 2013, 6:28 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 24th, 2013, 6:58 pm 
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Nobody's telling you to do anything. :)
Are you thinking about replacing him, Henry?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 24th, 2013, 7:33 pm 
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unvote Nish to give time for possible replacement. I like that idea.
Kikori for previously stated reasons.
FOS: Bluecoat. Really? "I'm just stubborn like that feed?" That's it?


Which reasons? The ones you never followed up on, or the ones you didn't think important enough to vote for me over The123king for?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 24th, 2013, 9:48 pm 
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Meh. I'd still be voting for 123 if he was here to defend himself. I'm not Jester in this game though. X)
Care to explain your vote for Phantom? This can't be another vote and see what happens, as there's already a vote for her via Jaron.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 24th, 2013, 10:38 pm 
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Meh. I'd still be voting for 123 if he was here to defend himself. I'm not Jester in this game though. X)

And this is a sufficient follow up to you...?
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Care to explain your vote for Phantom? This can't be another vote and see what happens, as there's already a vote for her via Jaron.

Can you find anything that doesn't scream "I'm a tremendously misdirecting mafia!" in her post?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 24th, 2013, 11:15 pm 
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Unvote Nish Well for now I have to hold on voting and sort things out.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 25th, 2013, 2:52 am 
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I just saw The123King's actions from the day before as a little suspicious, as did some other people on here. Also Lander, I am interested to know why you also voted for me? :P

Unvote Nish, until things sort themselves out there. My FoS still stands, however. I am guessing Jaron's double voting is just joking. He seems to be joking a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 25th, 2013, 2:53 am 
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Sorry, did not read the previous posts right; only Jaron voted for me. Sorry guys! :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 25th, 2013, 12:47 pm 
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stuff, blatantly ignoring the fact that rules were broken
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You have had a whole bunch of opportunities to say something.
Speak up.
He hasn't been on RV for days and hasn't made a post in 2.5 weeks.

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Not to be an ass, but this is a textbook example of using 'outside evidence'.


Care to address this? I've been ostracized a few different time for breaking perceived 'rules', how come this is cool? :?:
I wasn't going to, no, but since you obviously have no intention of dropping it I suppose I can give you my take on it.

As a host I wouldn't take what I said as breaking the rules. The "no outside evidence" rule is for outside evidence, i.e., something outside the game that not everyone is privy to. If I recall correctly (and I might not as it didn't concern me), you were "ostracized" for "breaking perceived 'rules'" because of something you and Kik did with Role PMs? Like, Role PMs that only you can see? Aka outside the game? That's even the example given in the rule (which makes me cry foul at your calling mine a 'textbook example').

On the other hand, Nish's activity (or lack thereof) is very much inside the game. Not only can all of us see the he hasn't made a post, but for an active RuneVillager, it's unavoidable to know that he hasn't made a post in weeks. To come at me twice because of something every single player knows (read: NOT a select group of people) but apparently isn't allowed to voice seems rather harsh, especially when you already said you weren't going to be an ass about it.

So yeah no I don't think they're the same at all. There, it's addressed.
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Care to explain your vote for Phantom? This can't be another vote and see what happens, as there's already a vote for her via Jaron.

Can you find anything that doesn't scream "I'm a tremendously misdirecting mafia!" in her post?
^ This, among other things
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Sorry, did not read the previous posts right; only Jaron voted for me. Sorry guys! :oops:
And Kikori.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 25th, 2013, 3:45 pm 
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Kikori wrote:
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Meh. I'd still be voting for 123 if he was here to defend himself. I'm not Jester in this game though. X)

And this is a sufficient follow up to you...?
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Care to explain your vote for Phantom? This can't be another vote and see what happens, as there's already a vote for her via Jaron.

Can you find anything that doesn't scream "I'm a tremendously misdirecting mafia!" in her post?

Well. I still think it's odd that you think it's odd that 123 said the same thing everyone else said and that there's apparently some mysterious difference in what he said that others did not. It was the only general opinion. There really wasn't much to go on at that point, and there still isn't even now. It really sucks that 123 got muted. I actually agree with Phantom as far as him possibly being a mafia muted by mafia. It seems pretty convenient. As far as what Phantom said about the black knife, yeah. I dunno about all that, but it doesn't seem like a suspicious enough comment to vote over. It seems to me she's thinking out loud.

Phantom, what are you talking about as far as the color of the knife goes? I don't recall a color being mentioned at either days beginning... nor in other games for that matter. It's a concept new to me, and I've played a few games. Are you saying that the mafia have yet to kill anyone because a knife hasn't been described as black? I'd re-think that if you are... flavor text is fleeting.

Kikiori, what exactly about her post do you find misleading other than the black knife mention? 123 may very well be a muted mafia, and Jaron may very well have been a failed mafia kill.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 25th, 2013, 6:29 pm 
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Kikiori, what exactly about her post do you find misleading other than the black knife mention? 123 may very well be a muted mafia, and Jaron may very well have been a failed mafia kill.

1.) Why jump the gun on a lynch-an-inactive instead of follow up with a suspicion and vote for the latter?
2.) Why put the idea of a third faction via Serial Killer in the game before something more common or simple, like Vigilante or Jack of All Trades? Wouldn't this just cause more worry about needing more names lynched?
3.) When do two state-the-obvious possibilities that someone else had pointed out before count as "I'm a villager" thoughts? Not to discredit Phantomrose's effort to contribute, since activity is always nice and appreciated, but doesn't following along in that manner typically get seen as a Mafia trait?
4.) If she thinks 123king is a Mafia and isn't voting for Nish anymore, why isn't she voting for 123king now?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 25th, 2013, 6:55 pm 
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Would it make sense to vote for someone who is muted anyway? I do not see anyone else voting for The123King, but also think that it is a coincidence that he is muted...

As far as the colour of the knife. Correct me on this, but I believe I do remember the knife handle being described as black in a few previous games, or maybe my memory is fuzzy on that. Also, a lot of other people were jumping the gun to lynch an inactive before I jumped on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 25th, 2013, 10:20 pm 
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Um, no. A great example is Animal lurking. If someone sees that he isn't posting, but checks his online status and sees he has been on and perhaps even checking this forum, they could possibly determine he is lurking and therefor more likely to be scum. This is using outside evidence to make determinations within the game. Though your indiscretion this time really is of no consequence and is only the same as the abovementioned in spirit, it's the principle of the thing.

But since no one else cares, I have no choice but to move on.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 26th, 2013, 10:03 am 
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Thr why were you so quick to jump onto nish's inactivity train with so little input?
Just along for the ride on a quick, easy lynch?
After which, you unvoted and announced that you would be rather silent as you 'sorted things out'.
Slipping back into the shadows to hide, are you?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 26th, 2013, 11:20 am 
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Thr why were you so quick to jump onto nish's inactivity train with so little input?
Just along for the ride on a quick, easy lynch?
After which, you unvoted and announced that you would be rather silent as you 'sorted things out'.
Slipping back into the shadows to hide, are you?


I didn't know you could replace an inactive player. On top of that the rest of the information that is to be gathered is to vague for me to make a solid choice . With that in mind I figured I would lay back and see if anyone slips up and gives ouf more information.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 26th, 2013, 8:44 pm 
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Oh ok. unvote.

Bluecoat

Your complete disregard of a serious inquiry irks me.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 26th, 2013, 10:21 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 26th, 2013, 10:39 pm 
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I am trying to drum up discussion. I was hoping bluecoat would look at 2 votes on him more seriously than just 1.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia - Day Three - The Sleeper, The Mummy and The Corps
PostPosted: December 26th, 2013, 10:52 pm 
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I am trying to drum up discussion. I was hoping bluecoat would look at 2 votes on him more seriously than just 1.

You'd be wrong on that one.

For the record, I kept my vote on Spiro because I didn't see any new evidence coming out at the time. And he still strikes me as mafia, so I ain't movin' that vote.

tl;dr I'm stubborn like that yo.

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