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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 1
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:03 pm 
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Oh, one more thing...

Scar and Godders. Quit ignoring the main arguments going on, try to contribute to them rather than wasting time discussing who betrayed who in a different game. Yes, there are 'revenge kills' and you could arguably say that my attack on Kikori today mirrors his on me in the previous game (although I will defend myself and state that my reasons for this attack are nothing to do with the previous game... they really aren't!) but still, get over it...


You're mistaking not being involved in with ignoring. You, Lander, Kikori and to an extent Top were already well into your discussion when I made it back to the topic. I read what was said and moved on to what was directed at me. Godders made a remark and I responded, your argument didn't involve me at the time. Just because I wasn't commenting on it doesn't mean I wasn't keeping up with it.

As for what happened towards the end of the day, Market made a useless post in what appears to be a vain effort to appear involved. However I am currently inclined to believe he is a Villager because of his activity level. In the past, when he has had a role, he has seemed more apt to post often. When he doesn't have a role he tends to post a bit, avoid drawing attention to himself, and just try to survive until the end which is also what less experienced or less skilled debaters tend to do if they are Mafia.

I don't believe I have seen him play as Mafia in recent history, but posting without actually saying anything like he did before has in the past been a huge scumtell which combined with his relative silence leads me to believe he is scum. Market Man6

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:05 pm 
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Topsummoner, because i checked my PM and he is "scummmy scum scum".

Also i am the Detective.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:13 pm 
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Then you're insane or lying because I'm not scum. Have you investigated yourself yet?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:15 pm 
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Have you investigated yourself yet?


WTF?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:17 pm 
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Clearly you've never heard of detective sanities.

Sane - Investigates people normally.

Insane - Receives opposite results from people (mafia appear villager, villager appear mafia). Investigating yourself and receiving a mafia result will tell you you're insane.

Less common are the following:

Paranoid: Everyone appears mafia.

Naive: Everyone appears villager.

Random: Results are random.

Either you're not really the Detective, or you're Insane.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:17 pm 
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Have you investigated yourself yet?


WTF?


It's common practice for the Detective to investigate themselves N1 to see if they're Sane or Insane. An Insane Detective's investigation results are all switched, so Villagers show Mafia, Mafia shows Villager etc. If you investigate yourself, and it comes up as Mafia then you know you're Insane and can interpret your results as such.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:19 pm 
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Have you investigated yourself yet?


WTF?


It's common practice for the Detective to investigate themselves N1 to see if they're Sane or Insane. An Insane Detective's investigation results are all switched, so Villagers show Mafia, Mafia shows Villager etc. If you investigate yourself, and it comes up as Mafia then you know you're Insane and can interpret your results as such.


Well i just assumed that i was a sane detective.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:24 pm 
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I'll check myself tonight, until then, just keep an eye on Topsummoner.

Dr Henry wrote:
Oh, one more thing...

Scar and Godders. Quit ignoring the main arguments going on, try to contribute to them rather than wasting time discussing who betrayed who in a different game. Yes, there are 'revenge kills' and you could arguably say that my attack on Kikori today mirrors his on me in the previous game (although I will defend myself and state that my reasons for this attack are nothing to do with the previous game... they really aren't!) but still, get over it...


Tbh i was just having a joke; and i think him killing me makes up for killing him in my first game.

Opinions of people

Dr Henry - Trying to push for some activity, which is fair enough and i believe is probably villager, mainly because in the last game he made it blatantly obvious he was Mafia, which he hasn't do this time.
Landerpurex - Same old Lander, with some fair points.
Topsummoner - Has changed style which is fair enough, but still needs to be watched carefully.
Kikori - Few points, clutching at straws, pushing for a Day One lynch. Going head in accusing everyone of being scum.
Everyone else - Where are you?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:26 pm 
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Well, that certainly takes the wind greatly out of one's sails.

P.S. Godders, for future reference, there's a variant of Detective called the "Insane Detective". You're not told when you're insane, only that you're a Detective. What this means is your results end up reversed--Mafia would show Villagers, and Villagers as Mafia. The safest way to test this is to investigate yourself ASAP and see what you come up--if correct, Sane. If not, Insane.
WELP, I WAS BEAT TO THE PUNCH HERE.

Topsummoner. There are two ways to confirm a Detective: kill him, or kill his investigated target. It just so happens, in this case, we'd also be proving the sanity of the Detective without having him waste a night phase of self investigation.
I still heavily suspect Market, and rest assured he's a dead man by the end of the next couple days. But as it stands now, we've got little to lose here.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:29 pm 
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Fair point, no need to waste an Investigation.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
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Let me rephrase that: Godders is definitely insane because I'm the Doctor.

I protected Landerpurex last night.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:32 pm 
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Let me rephrase that: Godders is definitely insane because I'm the Doctor.

I protected Landerpurex last night.


If it's true, it'd be a logical protection to make--high post count in the topic with a lot of logic and info generated--but sad to say for you, that's just too convenient.
At this point I just believe Godders even more now.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:33 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:36 pm 
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kikori your ok with killing the doctor?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 1
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kikori your ok with killing the doctor?

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Lander, I know you're out there watching. Can we please please kill Market Day Three regardless of investigations? Please?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:41 pm 
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kikori your ok with killing the doctor?


As far as we know he is only the Doctor because he says he is.

If he gets lynched and he was the doctor then i am very, very sorry.

If he is "scummy scum scum" then awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
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Your conviction lynching me after my claim is one thing, but mocking Market for not doing the same and blatantly appealing to Lander is another.

@ Godders

If I get lynched, you're dead the next night because you're the claimed Detective and nobody will be able to protect you.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
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If he gets lynched and he was the doctor then i am very, very sorry.


No, if he gets lynched and he is the doctor, then you're very likely a dead man posting.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
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That said if I don't get lynched I'm dead tonight. But that buys Godders an investigation at least, which he can use on someone else instead of himself since his sanity will be revealed with my death anyways.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:48 pm 
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If he gets lynched and he was the doctor then i am very, very sorry.


No, if he gets lynched and he is the doctor, then you're very likely a dead man posting.


Well i am just praying he is Mafia.

If he's not i am just praying there is a roleblocker.

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