Gandalf is 7000 years old?
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if he is that foreign and ancient, why did he befriend Bilbo and Frodo? I know in the Hobbit he helped Bilbo but I forget why they became such good friends.
Probably had something to do with a little golden ring that Bilbo found (and passed on to Frodo) that determined the future of good and evil in middle earth.
As gandalf was a "Servant of the light" or however he terms himself ("Servant of the flame imperishable" comes to mind, but I think that's from an instance in LoTRO not the book...) , he would in theory want to work for the best interests of the forces of good in middle earth, thus feeling a desire to bring about the end of the ring, and thereby destroying the threat that was Sauron/the shadow in the east. 
Statistics: Posted by Rec321 — January 5th, 2008, 5:38 pm
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How come in all the movies he never used magic against the monsters except against the nazgul and the balrog?
Is Gandalf from another world or land, and if he is that foreign and ancient, why did he befriend Bilbo and Frodo? I know in the Hobbit he helped Bilbo but I forget why they became such good friends.
When Bilbo and Frodo go to the Undying Lands at the end of the movie, what happens after that? Do they just chill for eternity? Does he ever meet the other Hobbits? Does anything continue on in LOTR with another adventure?
Statistics: Posted by Poor Hippo — December 26th, 2007, 2:24 am
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letskillhim wrote:
Eldar?????????
Elves, I believe it more specifically refers to those that came from Valinor though.
Correct me if I'm wrong
Pretty much. When the Elves were created into being, they were in a location far to the east of Middle-Earth. The Elves who chose to travel to Valinor became known as the Eldar, as they had seen the light of the trees.
That'd make a bit more sense, Ape.
Statistics: Posted by Tweedy — December 22nd, 2007, 11:06 am
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Eldar?????????
Elves, I believe it more specifically refers to those that came from Valinor though.
Correct me if I'm wrong
Statistics: Posted by Elf — December 21st, 2007, 10:14 pm
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Haha guess not:
Wikipedia wrote:
Middle-earth refers to the fictional 'mortal' lands where some of the stories of author J. R. R. Tolkien take place, as opposed to Aman or 'undying' lands, where the angelic Valar live together with most of the High Elves. The term's origin lies in a translation of the Middle English middel-erde which developed from Old English middangeard.
Tolkien said that his Middle-earth is our Earth, but in a fictional period in the past, estimating the end of the Third Age to about 6,000 years before his own time.[1]
The history of Tolkien's Middle-earth is divided into several Ages. The novel The Hobbit and the main text of The Lord of the Rings deal exclusively with events toward the end of the Third Age and conclude at the dawn of the Fourth Age, while The Silmarillion deals mainly with the First Age.
Statistics: Posted by Muscular Ape — December 19th, 2007, 4:51 am
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carnage64 wrote:
also when frodo and gandalf and everybody sailed away. Where did they go?
To Valinor, or the White Shores if you will. It's where the Valar reside along with the elves.
Also known as the Undying Lands.
Statistics: Posted by Eadwulf — December 5th, 2007, 7:16 pm
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Are you a lord of the rings dictionary?
also when frodo and gandalf and everybody sailed away. Where did they go?
Haven't seen a single lord of the rings thing in like forever.
So my knowledge is rusty.
yes i am qiute the dictionary
but like elf said they went to Valinor. and now frodo and blibo wont die because the Eldar recieved them YAY!!Statistics: Posted by Archbishop of Banana — December 5th, 2007, 4:40 pm
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also when frodo and gandalf and everybody sailed away. Where did they go?
To Valinor, or the White Shores if you will. It's where the Valar reside along with the elves.
Statistics: Posted by Elf — December 5th, 2007, 9:02 am
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also when frodo and gandalf and everybody sailed away. Where did they go?
Haven't seen a single lord of the rings thing in like forever.
So my knowledge is rusty.
Statistics: Posted by carnage64 — December 4th, 2007, 9:19 pm
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Well, you'll have to forgive any discrepancies I might cause, as my knowledge is mostly recalled from when I read the Silmarillion, and an anthology on Tolkien's Legendarium that I dug up at the library to deride thousands of inconsistencies in The Lord of the Rings Online. Anyway, one bearing the ring put them partway in a "shadow-realm" while they were wearing it, much like how the Nazgûl existed. It also goes without out saying that Sauron's evil would corrupt any who were exposed to it for a prolonged period of time. Balrogs were simply Maia that were corrupted by Morgoth.
As for the pointy thing, I just copy the symbols out of MS Word.
Unless they are of strng mind such as Smeagol? i have dozens of books about the issue of Middle earth and its history...some are wrtten by Christopher Tolkien and some from J.R.R Tolkien. i knew that the ring puts u partially in the shadowrealm thus doing so on Amon Sul were Frodo was stabbed and witnessed the RingWraiths uncloaked when he slipped it on...I now understand what u said about how the ring turns u to a slave of Sauron..i poured over some research and found it true as u said. We can also assume that Isildur could have been enslaved soon enough if he wasnt betrayed by the ring and killed...for the ring corrupted him
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Statistics: Posted by Archbishop of Banana — November 30th, 2007, 2:42 pm
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As for the pointy thing, I just copy the symbols out of MS Word.
Statistics: Posted by Eadwulf — November 30th, 2007, 2:31 pm
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and the one ring WONT turn u to a nazgul...it will turn u into madness such as Smeagol. Morgul weapons turn u to nazgul..or a ring similar to the nine given by sauron
A mere mortal wearing the one ring for a greatly extended period of time would reduce them to a wraith and a mindless servant to Sauron.[/quote]
Trully? i dont remember reading that in any of the records. Also Eadwulf...am i not correct that the Balrog is from Udun? also HOW do u get the ^ above the letters
Statistics: Posted by Archbishop of Banana — November 30th, 2007, 2:24 pm
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Tweedy wrote:
Eadwulf, I can't be bothered getting out my Silmarillion at the moment (since it is in another room), but I was always under the impression that the term Istari was merely a name applied to the five wizards who came to Middle Earth from Valinor. I thought they were still Maia, the same as Sauron. I seem to remember how Mithrandir was a Maia serving under a particular Valar (the name eludes me).
Now I'm remembering why these things' complexity vexed me so much before... Anyway, it's bloody complicated. Technically they're all the same order (Maiar), but it seems to me that the beings directly referred to as Maia (Balrogs, etc.) were notably more powerful than the wizards. Gandalf was a servant of Eru.
Archbishop of Banana wrote:
and the one ring WONT turn u to a nazgul...it will turn u into madness such as Smeagol. Morgul weapons turn u to nazgul..or a ring similar to the nine given by sauron
A mere mortal wearing the one ring for a greatly extended period of time would reduce them to a wraith and a mindless servant to Sauron.
Statistics: Posted by Eadwulf — November 30th, 2007, 2:12 pm
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My only explanation would be that Middle Earth would only be considered to be the West and North of the continental mass. The eastern areas like Khand and Rhun, despite being part of the same land mass, are not considered to be Middle Earth.
Statistics: Posted by Tweedy — November 30th, 2007, 9:35 am
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Eadwulf, I can't be bothered getting out my Silmarillion at the moment (since it is in another room), but I was always under the impression that the term Istari was merely a name applied to the five wizards who came to Middle Earth from Valinor. I thought they were still Maia, the same as Sauron. I seem to remember how Mithrandir was a Maia serving under a particular Valar (the name eludes me).
Question for anyone: seeing as the name is Middle Earth, wouldn't that imply that there are two other lands, to the east and west? Valinor is to the west, so what is to the east?
Statistics: Posted by Tweedy — November 30th, 2007, 8:58 am
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and the one ring WONT turn u to a nazgul...it will turn u into madness such as Smeagol. Morgul weapons turn u to nazgul..or a ring similar to the nine given by sauron
Oh by the way....The Hobbit was made for people of all ages as it says so in the beginning of the book -.-
Statistics: Posted by Archbishop of Banana — November 30th, 2007, 8:05 am
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Andrey wrote:
Oh, the nerdiness. XD
I like your trolling!
Not
Has anyone noticed that the hobbit was a story for tolkiens kids?
It's not trolling.
Statistics: Posted by Andrey — November 30th, 2007, 12:35 am
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