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RuneVillage.com Where Gamers Escape! 2011-02-04T21:40:14-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/feed.php?f=17&t=429017 2011-02-04T21:40:14-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=10264246#p10264246 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> Elvarg is a bit of a joke. KBD has absolutely no point in p2p. I don't think a f2p only item would work (and I dont think Jagex would consider it)
I think the following would be decent:

- I remember early members when I killed a decent level monster and it was SO exciting to get a drop of like 5 different things. f2pers would have to team it no doubt, making it challenging and rewarding. Take out the poison and have it drop:

- 2x big bones (always)
- Rune armour set (RARE)
- Rune platebody (uncommon)
- Rune 2h (uncommon)
- Rune scimmy (uncommon)
- 20 noted addy ores
- coins (3500)
- Death rune (80)
- str potion (5)
- Tuna (5)
- Fire rune (250)
- diamond (4)
(Also not sure on how u get corrupted dragon, but get it to drop that too)

I put in rune armour set as you need some sort of super reward offered as incentive... couldn't think of anything else.

This would also liven up f2p pking around that area too which would be a plus. But it would enable f2pers to get a taste of real boss hunting, which is something that p2p offers a lot of and is a heap of fun, as well as rewarding.

Statistics: Posted by Jet1233 — February 4th, 2011, 9:40 pm


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2011-01-21T16:23:55-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=10262172#p10262172 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]>
I know Jagex wants f2p to simply be a "taste" of RuneScape, but what is a taste without a boss monster?

Honestly though, if they don't add a weaker boss monster like KBD to f2p, then they at least need to update it.

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2010-04-15T02:00:13-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=10216446#p10216446 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]>
But the KBD cant drop that cloak, it will be too good, especially if it was a free-only item. It could either drop mass runes, like 50 noted addy ores, or 5 noted rune ores. It could drop large ammounts of arrows (like 2k mith arrows). Or it could drop Rune, with good chance for rune platebody.

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2010-01-26T17:18:09-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3562797#p3562797 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> Statistics: Posted by Godders — January 26th, 2010, 5:18 pm


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2010-01-26T01:39:40-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3562726#p3562726 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> Statistics: Posted by Kikori — January 26th, 2010, 1:39 am


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2010-01-25T18:07:37-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3562650#p3562650 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> n00b 4 m1nin wrote:

kikori kid wrote:
They do have freezing and blocking teleports. Poison would be the final use as an anti-solo King Black Dragon in free worlds, I think. Even if the rate's reduced, one single case of poison in a person would decimate their food supply enough to ruin a solo chance.


I agree with you, i think that it is near impossible for a solo on the KBD in f2p unless you're a super rich level 126 who can afford full corrupt.


Did you use prayer?

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2010-01-21T16:15:32-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3561585#p3561585 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> kikori kid wrote:

They do have freezing and blocking teleports. Poison would be the final use as an anti-solo King Black Dragon in free worlds, I think. Even if the rate's reduced, one single case of poison in a person would decimate their food supply enough to ruin a solo chance.


I agree with you, i think that it is near impossible for a solo on the KBD in f2p unless you're a super rich level 126 who can afford full corrupt.

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2010-01-21T14:58:18-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3561569#p3561569 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> Statistics: Posted by Kikori — January 21st, 2010, 2:58 pm


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2010-01-21T01:50:43-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3561447#p3561447 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> kikori kid wrote:

n00b 4 m1nin wrote:
I've been considering alot of things about this topic. An average level 70 in f2p has 60 defence, thats enough for corrupt dragon, but the food is limited at anchovy pizzas, but that heals 22. Potions are limited to Strength pot.
So i went to the Kbd, with full rune, anti-dragonfire shield, team cape 33, amulet of strength, corrupt dragon scimmy and 1 Strength pot and 27 Anchovy pizza, i got him down to half health, if i had full corrupt dragon, i still would've died, and it wouldn't be worth the cost.

Btw im 110 combat in p2p, 102 in f2p


That pretty much confirms that a free player doesn't have a good chance of tackling the KBD alone. So since teamwork seems to be a necessity, that makes me want this idea done more. :D


I think it would be a good idea, i also think that poison isnt an issue in f2p, they just don't need a dragon with poison. Revs dont have poison in f2p.

Statistics: Posted by Godders — January 21st, 2010, 1:50 am


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2010-01-21T00:12:37-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3561443#p3561443 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> n00b 4 m1nin wrote:

I've been considering alot of things about this topic. An average level 70 in f2p has 60 defence, thats enough for corrupt dragon, but the food is limited at anchovy pizzas, but that heals 22. Potions are limited to Strength pot.
So i went to the Kbd, with full rune, anti-dragonfire shield, team cape 33, amulet of strength, corrupt dragon scimmy and 1 Strength pot and 27 Anchovy pizza, i got him down to half health, if i had full corrupt dragon, i still would've died, and it wouldn't be worth the cost.

Btw im 110 combat in p2p, 102 in f2p


That pretty much confirms that a free player doesn't have a good chance of tackling the KBD alone. So since teamwork seems to be a necessity, that makes me want this idea done more. :D

Statistics: Posted by Kikori — January 21st, 2010, 12:12 am


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2010-01-19T11:01:27-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3561006#p3561006 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> Skulled Robe wrote:

It could be a good idea for those that are fed up with members and fancy taking on something big for a little while. A list of drops would be a nice idea to add to your main thread. :P


I think that Jagex need the KBD to drop something that no other NPC drops besides the KBD heads.
It should drop a peice of armour. Corp Beast has Spirit shields, Jad has Fire cape, there should be something for the KBD.

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2010-01-19T03:40:22-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3560925#p3560925 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]>

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2010-01-16T15:51:27-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3560313#p3560313 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> So i went to the Kbd, with full rune, anti-dragonfire shield, team cape 33, amulet of strength, corrupt dragon scimmy and 1 Strength pot and 27 Anchovy pizza, i got him down to half health, if i had full corrupt dragon, i still would've died, and it wouldn't be worth the cost.

Btw im 110 combat in p2p, 102 in f2p

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2009-11-07T14:02:23-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3544092#p3544092 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]>
There's not a lot of content between the F2P quests and the KBD either on free servers... Users generally want to switch to members to get content after they've finished the f2p quests and I don't think moving the KBD to f2p would change that in a positive way... I think the KBD being in f2p would add the idea that there's still something more to do and then people would stick with f2p until they had killed it... and without much content to help them reach the level to kill the kbd (and the ammount of people that would start flooding in there just because it was f2ps greatest attraction) would deter people from getting membership until much later and many of those players might give up on the game.

Really I think it'd just be sad to see this happen, too... I remember all those ads using KBD as one of member's biggest things.

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2009-11-07T10:15:11-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3544064#p3544064 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]>
Chris wrote:

Kikori- I realized the aspect of poison being a factor when posting this. They could honestly either add the poison status to f2p (with the kbd being the only f2p npc that *can* poison, and still restricting weapon poison to members), or they could just remove poison from the f2p KBD's arsenal. It would still be a huge challenge to kill in f2p even without poison effects.


So poison was up in the air, not dead set.

Also, limiting what a player can do with something that comes from a large group (i.e. one of many minigames, one of many bosses, only a few out of many cities...) is an introduction, almost a teaser, which intices players to want the rest. The King Black Dragon is probably the poorest dropper compared to the bosses you have to group hunt, so it's of very little consequence to declare it the "teaser" boss to free players who would have a damn good challenge to try and beat it. That challenge, if it's too much or beaten and more is needed, could easily be sated by playing on a member's world to have the potions needed to make it easier or have the new bosses open.

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2009-11-07T03:25:14-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3544041#p3544041 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]>
It discourages people from subscribing if they can get new content in p2p. I actually almost locked this topic out of habit because we used to not allow topics saying we should move member content to F2p <_<

I've never killed the KBD personally and I'm level 87 combat. I'd hardly call it a pushover, but this topic makes me want to try it and see how well I could do. I always figured the reason no one cared about the KBD anymore was because it's major drop (dragon med) is only 60k on the GE now.

I also wouldn't want to see the scorpions before the KBD get their poison removed... That just feels like they'd just be making things easier. Maybe we could add poison to f2p and tell them that if they subscribe they can get the antidotes XD

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2009-10-21T21:04:58-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3540030#p3540030 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> king sora354 wrote:

ya im a lvl 74 and i can barley kill a lessor demon at 70 with lobies and pots

Dude, I could kill a lesser with rune, 5 tuna, and 45 cb...

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2009-10-21T20:06:59-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3540013#p3540013 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]>
Give it to F2P, in my opinion.

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2009-10-05T11:10:58-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3534841#p3534841 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> Kikor Treat wrote:

Member* level 70s can have superior equipment, many potions at their disposal, better prayers, better food, and special attacks. That's why THEY can solo a King Black Dragon.

Maybe accounts that are made specifically for boss slaying and such. A normal member level 70 can't do that.

(I'm not arguing for or against; just though I should clarify that.)

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2009-09-30T00:24:34-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=429017&p=3533165#p3533165 <![CDATA[Re: King Black Dragon for f2p]]> kikori kid wrote:

Member* level 70s can have superior equipment, many potions at their disposal, better prayers, better food, and special attacks. That's why THEY can solo a King Black Dragon.

Free players would have to collaborate, Sora.
Exactly my point. :^_^:

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