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RuneVillage.com Where Gamers Escape! 2013-02-18T22:28:54-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/feed.php?f=16&t=438647 2013-02-18T22:28:54-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318848#p10318848 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Eadwulf wrote:

http://www.runevillage.com/ThePub/viewforum.php?f=159


As Cam pointed out, I'm not making any arguments so I believe I'm in the right place.

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2013-02-18T22:27:53-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318847#p10318847 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

You'll forgive me, Apple, if I note that's not an argument.


You'll be forgiven after 10 Hail Mary's.

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2013-02-18T20:59:08-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318844#p10318844 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> viewforum.php?f=159

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2013-02-18T18:13:53-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318840#p10318840 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Statistics: Posted by Magicana Drofulcus — February 18th, 2013, 6:13 pm


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2013-02-18T16:40:40-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318835#p10318835 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Statistics: Posted by Applequest — February 18th, 2013, 4:40 pm


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2013-02-18T16:05:46-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318832#p10318832 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Applequest wrote:

Magicana Drofulcus wrote:
Abstinence is one of the most effective ways of not getting a sexually transmitted disease, just saiyan.


Your insights have just revolutionized the war on AIDS. I hereby nominate you for sainthood, the Nobel peace prize, or Popedom, your choice.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstinence ... e_a_condom

There's no need for everyone to be so obstinate about it. The whole "Don't use a condom" is based around the idea of it encouraging sexual promiscuity because it removes the consequences from sex.

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2013-02-18T15:25:34-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318825#p10318825 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

Abstinence is one of the most effective ways of not getting a sexually transmitted disease, just saiyan.


Your insights have just revolutionized the war on AIDS. I hereby nominate you for sainthood, the Nobel peace prize, or Popedom, your choice.

Statistics: Posted by Applequest — February 18th, 2013, 3:25 pm


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2013-02-18T15:23:43-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318824#p10318824 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Muscular Ape wrote:

If we have to have another Pope, would it be too much to ask for one a bit more in touch with reality?


Well, Im guessing the next pope will be another elderly man who has spent his entire life immersed in the Catholic church, I'll let you come to your own conclusions about your question.

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2013-02-18T15:21:07-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318823#p10318823 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Muscular Ape wrote:

Magicana Drofulcus wrote:
5 minutes on Google reveals that the organisation is not reputable, and its tribunal has one member (Who appears to be a general malcontent). I know atheists put pride in the discovery and the supremacy of facts, so please do some research next time before posting rubbish.


I think you skimmed over my comment underneath the article.

Anyway, I'm aware Cam. The title of the article was a bit of a dead give away. The end of the Vatican could be near? Lol! Yeah right. Just wishful thinking. :wink:

Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

Oh just noticed the part at the top of your post.

Maintenance of old knowledge that could have died out after Barbarian (Heathen/Pagan/Atheist, whichever you like) invasions of Rome.
Modern calendar
Renaissance (Greek texts which were translated from Greek into Latin by Orthodox scholars following the push by Islam into Byzantium).
Mediation - In a world wracked with war and turmoil, the Church has consistently acted as a mediator.
The arts - Fueled by funding from the nobility, a lot of the magnificent art from the Renaissance was funded by the Church (And may I repeat, funding from the nobility allowed a lot of this to happen).
The Catholic Church was one of the few entities to stand up and publicly criticize the Nazis in the 1930s.


I never said the Church hasn't positively contributed to society in the past. I'd still make the trade without hesitation though. My main point was that the Church and in particular the Pope has now become unnecessary and irrelevant in today's world, that's all. Of course, an overwhelming amount of people would disagree with me. That's okay, I'll live.

Nevertheless, your last point is laughable. I think you're being fairly dishonest or at least very selective bringing that gem up.

Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

Also I guess the billions of dollars worth of aids, and the millions upon millions of man-hours worth of charity work mean nothing as well.


See my last comment re: AIDs. The Church's general stance on condoms (one of, if not the, best preventives of AIDs) over the past few decades is nonsensical gibberish that belongs in Dark Ages and should not be accepted by any person capable of individual thought.

Cam, I think good people will always find a way to do their good deeds, whether the Catholic Church exists or not, regardless of their religion or lack of. Being charitable is not unique to the Church. I would expect those involved with the Church who are charitable would continue to be charitable should the Church cease to exist. Much like I would expect them to continue being charitable should they ever lose their faith. I don't see how the Church's (dubious) spirit of giving, a spirit possessed by many, necessitates their existence in today's world.

What I do wonder is what would happen to any secular organisation that systematically covered up the molestation of children by their "employees" for decades.

If we have to have another Pope, would it be too much to ask for one a bit more in touch with reality?


Abstinence is one of the most effective ways of not getting a sexually transmitted disease, just saiyan.

Statistics: Posted by Magicana Drofulcus — February 18th, 2013, 3:21 pm


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2013-02-18T09:09:56-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318809#p10318809 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

5 minutes on Google reveals that the organisation is not reputable, and its tribunal has one member (Who appears to be a general malcontent). I know atheists put pride in the discovery and the supremacy of facts, so please do some research next time before posting rubbish.


I think you skimmed over my comment underneath the article.

Anyway, I'm aware Cam. The title of the article was a bit of a dead give away. The end of the Vatican could be near? Lol! Yeah right. Just wishful thinking. :wink:

Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

Oh just noticed the part at the top of your post.

Maintenance of old knowledge that could have died out after Barbarian (Heathen/Pagan/Atheist, whichever you like) invasions of Rome.
Modern calendar
Renaissance (Greek texts which were translated from Greek into Latin by Orthodox scholars following the push by Islam into Byzantium).
Mediation - In a world wracked with war and turmoil, the Church has consistently acted as a mediator.
The arts - Fueled by funding from the nobility, a lot of the magnificent art from the Renaissance was funded by the Church (And may I repeat, funding from the nobility allowed a lot of this to happen).
The Catholic Church was one of the few entities to stand up and publicly criticize the Nazis in the 1930s.


I never said the Church hasn't positively contributed to society in the past. I'd still make the trade without hesitation though. My main point was that the Church and in particular the Pope has now become unnecessary and irrelevant in today's world, that's all. Of course, an overwhelming amount of people would disagree with me. That's okay, I'll live.

Nevertheless, your last point is laughable. I think you're being fairly dishonest or at least very selective bringing that gem up.

Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

Also I guess the billions of dollars worth of aids, and the millions upon millions of man-hours worth of charity work mean nothing as well.


See my last comment re: AIDs. The Church's general stance on condoms (one of, if not the, best preventives of AIDs) over the past few decades is nonsensical gibberish that belongs in Dark Ages and should not be accepted by any person capable of individual thought.

Cam, I think good people will always find a way to do their good deeds, whether the Catholic Church exists or not, regardless of their religion or lack of. Being charitable is not unique to the Church. I would expect those involved with the Church who are charitable would continue to be charitable should the Church cease to exist. Much like I would expect them to continue being charitable should they ever lose their faith. I don't see how the Church's (dubious) spirit of giving, a spirit possessed by many, necessitates their existence in today's world.

What I do wonder is what would happen to any secular organisation that systematically covered up the molestation of children by their "employees" for decades.

If we have to have another Pope, would it be too much to ask for one a bit more in touch with reality?

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2013-02-18T05:16:50-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318808#p10318808 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]>

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2013-02-18T03:42:39-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318806#p10318806 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Muscular Ape wrote:

Decades, perhaps even centuries, of blatant immorality from the Catholic Church and all we get is a calendar? Can we trade back?

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-pop ... ld-be-near

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The Pope seeks immunity: The end of the Vatican could be near

Catholic Church
February 15, 2013
By: Barbie Crafts
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The Pope will have immunity from prosecution regarding the mishandling of child sex crimes by staying within the walls of the Vatican, according to an anonymous Vatican source. Reuters reported Friday, Feb. 15, that church sources have explained that the retiring Pope Benedict would be “defenseless” if he leaves the Vatican.

This official news story comes on the heels of a statement issued by the International Tribunal into Crimes Against Church and State (ITCCS) that detailed the legal situation that surrounds the Pope and the Vatican. An unnamed European country and the ITCCS have issued a campaign to hold the Pope accountable for the Vatican’s cover-up of child sex crimes. There was an international arrest warrant secured for the Pope’s arrest:

On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy.

The Tribunal and the unnamed European nation intend to take a lien against the property and wealth of the Catholic Church, beginning on Easter Sunday March 31. They are calling it an “Easter Reclamation Campaign," part of which involves citizens seizing the assets of the Church under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

The basic purpose of the action is stated at the end of the document issued by The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State:

We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking.

The document was delivered to the Pope’s representative on Feb. 4 and the Pope resigned on Feb. 10. So, it appears that the Pope may have resigned to avoid arrest and to avoid forfeiture of property by the Vatican. Stuart Wilde.com has a story today that Pope Benedict will meet with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano on February 23 to request immunity and protection.

The entire story behind the first resignation of a sitting pope in over 600 years is just beginning to develop. The threat to the institution of the Vatican and its extensive financial holdings, however, is very real. As this international tribunal with the backing of at least one nation pursues the centuries-old institution and her holiest of leaders, the situation may bring changes that were never imagined possible.


This is most likely just silly exaggeration, but it'd be good news if it wasn't.


5 minutes on Google reveals that the organisation is not reputable, and its tribunal has one member (Who appears to be a general malcontent). I know atheists put pride in the discovery and the supremacy of facts, so please do some research next time before posting rubbish.

Oh just noticed the part at the top of your post.

Maintenance of old knowledge that could have died out after Barbarian (Heathen/Pagan/Atheist, whichever you like) invasions of Rome.
Modern calendar
Renaissance (Greek texts which were translated from Greek into Latin by Orthodox scholars following the push by Islam into Byzantium).
Mediation - In a world wracked with war and turmoil, the Church has consistently acted as a mediator.
The arts - Fueled by funding from the nobility, a lot of the magnificent art from the Renaissance was funded by the Church (And may I repeat, funding from the nobility allowed a lot of this to happen).
The Catholic Church was one of the few entities to stand up and publicly criticize the Nazis in the 1930s.

Also I guess the billions of dollars worth of aids, and the millions upon millions of man-hours worth of charity work mean nothing as well.

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2013-02-17T22:22:52-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318796#p10318796 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]>
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-pop ... ld-be-near

Quote:

The Pope seeks immunity: The end of the Vatican could be near

Catholic Church
February 15, 2013
By: Barbie Crafts
Subscribe

The Pope will have immunity from prosecution regarding the mishandling of child sex crimes by staying within the walls of the Vatican, according to an anonymous Vatican source. Reuters reported Friday, Feb. 15, that church sources have explained that the retiring Pope Benedict would be “defenseless” if he leaves the Vatican.

This official news story comes on the heels of a statement issued by the International Tribunal into Crimes Against Church and State (ITCCS) that detailed the legal situation that surrounds the Pope and the Vatican. An unnamed European country and the ITCCS have issued a campaign to hold the Pope accountable for the Vatican’s cover-up of child sex crimes. There was an international arrest warrant secured for the Pope’s arrest:

On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy.

The Tribunal and the unnamed European nation intend to take a lien against the property and wealth of the Catholic Church, beginning on Easter Sunday March 31. They are calling it an “Easter Reclamation Campaign," part of which involves citizens seizing the assets of the Church under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

The basic purpose of the action is stated at the end of the document issued by The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State:

We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking.

The document was delivered to the Pope’s representative on Feb. 4 and the Pope resigned on Feb. 10. So, it appears that the Pope may have resigned to avoid arrest and to avoid forfeiture of property by the Vatican. Stuart Wilde.com has a story today that Pope Benedict will meet with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano on February 23 to request immunity and protection.

The entire story behind the first resignation of a sitting pope in over 600 years is just beginning to develop. The threat to the institution of the Vatican and its extensive financial holdings, however, is very real. As this international tribunal with the backing of at least one nation pursues the centuries-old institution and her holiest of leaders, the situation may bring changes that were never imagined possible.


This is most likely just silly exaggeration, but it'd be good news if it wasn't.

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2013-02-16T23:12:13-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318740#p10318740 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]>
On the other hand, the conspiracy theorist in me wants to believe he vacated for another more sinister reason. Also, the paper I read pointed out that he will have unprecedented control over who the next pope is, as most of the cardinals are people he appointed. Though his role in the new selection is uncertain, he will have a strong influence over it.

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2013-02-16T05:54:43-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318701#p10318701 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Eadwulf wrote:

The title is generally considered a lifetime commitment.


Why should it be? He's given almost his entire life to the church, he deserves a retirement to enjoy the time he has left. Besides, a younger pope will be able to be more active in the church.

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2013-02-15T01:52:09-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318667#p10318667 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

Muscular Ape wrote:
I see the parallels.

The Cathedra Romana improves my quality of life beyond recognition.


You can stop using the Gregorian calendar whenever you like.


Yes, switch to the lunar calendar! (Happy new year, by the way.)

Anyway, I wonder about the specifics of his decision. The title is generally considered a lifetime commitment.

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2013-02-15T01:22:13-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318666#p10318666 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Muscular Ape wrote:

I see the parallels.

The Cathedra Romana improves my quality of life beyond recognition.


You can stop using the Gregorian calendar whenever you like.

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2013-02-14T09:23:49-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318632#p10318632 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]> Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

I make it a point to know as much as I can about everything.


Fair enough.
Actually I'm the same way. But not about politics or religion or things that are not tangible. I enjoy learning the most I can about why the things that are around me are the way they are. And how they can be used in the best way.

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2013-02-14T07:39:48-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318624#p10318624 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]>

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2013-02-14T07:22:18-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=438647&p=10318623#p10318623 <![CDATA[Re: Pope Benedict XVI announces resignation]]>
The Cathedra Romana improves my quality of life beyond recognition.

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