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And people who don't vote have no say to what happens to the country
and I never said anything about the freedom to vote or not vote. You should learn to comprehend it's not that complicated what I said. If you don't care who wins then you don't care what they do/can't complain.Sounds like you need to get off your high horse if you're so easily angered by the topic.
Burks hasn't been on his proverbial high horse in quite some time, which I am impressed with. He used to be the second most arrogant
on this site.As it stands, when it comes to elections, people have four approaches to two options.
Option one, vote for someone to go into the position. However, there are two approaches to why you would vote. You believe someone could do good when put in the seat of power, or you simply want to elect "the lesser of ___ evils" in order to avoid other, worse candidates taking office.
Option two, do not vote. One reason for doing this is lack of satisfaction with any given candidate. If they do not fit your interest, then they do not have your support, and you damn well do get to complain that nobody is willing to step up to the plate who fits your ideals.
The only people who don't have much right to complain are the 'fourth' approach, the people that genuinely say "I don't care who wins or not" and don't vote because of it. Those are far and few between, however.
In the end the voters still don't matter as much as you make them out to, since presidents neither are elected by popular vote nor follow the wishes of the public once elected.
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But whatever. Have fun voting. If it makes you feel better, fantastic. Glad you do, someone has to. But to tell me I don't matter, screw you and bite me. Get off your high horse. I hope you donate half your money to relief funds to "make a difference" as well (not directed at you Lander). We all the right to vote just as much as we have the right not to vote. It's called freedom, learn it.
And Obama's election is doing wonders for the economy already. Gun sales are sky rocketing! A+ job sir.
Never said you don't matter
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And people who don't vote have no say to what happens to the country
Sounds like you need to get off your high horse if you're so easily angered by the topic.
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I don't donate to charity often because I don't have a lot of expendable income, but when I do I donate locally and in the US. I donate to the Relay for Life and the Children's Miracle Network, sometimes to Goodwill and the Salvation Army (in the form of stuff and cash), and the Humane Society. Even though that wasn't aimed at me. I know many people donate because it makes them feel good, because they feel they made a difference...I donate so I can wear jeans at work and do some good besides, I sponsor animals so they can get the treatment they need, I donate to the thrift shops because some people shop there out of necessity. I'm trying to help as best I can. Just trying to do my part.
I wouldn't donate to foreign countries while ours has so many issues. Haiti?
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Otherwise, bunch of liars. At least my friend did what he said he'd do. He's off in Washington DC working for some Senator now.
But whatever. Have fun voting. If it makes you feel better, fantastic. Glad you do, someone has to. But to tell me I don't matter, screw you and bite me. Get off your high horse. I hope you donate half your money to relief funds to "make a difference" as well (not directed at you Lander). We all the right to vote just as much as we have the right not to vote. It's called freedom, learn it.
And Obama's election is doing wonders for the economy already. Gun sales are sky rocketing! A+ job sir.
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Actually we have just as much say as anyone else. You present me with a good candidate and I'll vote. Present me with two terrible choices, I'm not voting. Voting for someone "just to vote" is worse than not voting at all. Voting because it's "cool" when you don't know
about the candidates, is damn near borderline insane.As a tax payer (you're welcome to 35% of my earning Obama, Wellfare, anyone that attends public schools, etc), I damn well have a say. Voting, these days, is just to make people feel like they are making a difference.
I hate to be that guy, but what if NO ONE voted?
It's interesting that you say that you have a say because you pay mandated money to the government, not because you voluntarily went out and tried to change the outcome of the election.
I have to agree that many, many people are misinformed about candidates but I don't count myself among them, and neither should you. It makes it all that more important for educated people to vote.
I vote because I give a
about my country and my future, not because it's 'cool'. Not voting because it's 'cool' is even more stupid. I want to exercise my small measure of control over the government. If that's only to 'make me feel like I made a difference', then so be it. I thought I was participating in a democracy.
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You could of wrote in me. I would of loved to of had your vote!
When you are old enough, I will. Until then.......right me in for the 2024 elections.
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I would have voted for Romney.
But I'm 17, and all I could do was debate in my government class.
And people who don't vote have no say to what happens to the country, because they don't care.
Actually we have just as much say as anyone else. You present me with a good candidate and I'll vote. Present me with two terrible choices, I'm not voting. Voting for someone "just to vote" is worse than not voting at all. Voting because it's "cool" when you don't know
about the candidates, is damn near borderline insane.As a tax payer (you're welcome to 35% of my earning Obama, Wellfare, anyone that attends public schools, etc), I damn well have a say. Voting, these days, is just to make people feel like they are making a difference.
You could of wrote in me. I would of loved to of had your vote!
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I would have voted for Romney.
But I'm 17, and all I could do was debate in my government class.
And people who don't vote have no say to what happens to the country, because they don't care.
Actually we have just as much say as anyone else. You present me with a good candidate and I'll vote. Present me with two terrible choices, I'm not voting. Voting for someone "just to vote" is worse than not voting at all. Voting because it's "cool" when you don't know
about the candidates, is damn near borderline insane.As a tax payer (you're welcome to 35% of my earning Obama, Wellfare, anyone that attends public schools, etc), I damn well have a say. Voting, these days, is just to make people feel like they are making a difference.
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I would have voted for Romney.
But I'm 17, and all I could do was debate in my government class.
And people who don't vote have no say to what happens to the country, because they don't care.
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Did Romney lose by one vote in Ohio? No he did not. Nor do I care if the argument is used a million times over. Voting is fairly stupid anyways because all you're doing is voting for the most likable liar anyways.
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Landerpurex wrote:
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My vote would have made no difference.
I would have voted for Romney.
Did Romney lose by one vote in Ohio? No he did not. Nor do I care if the argument is used a million times over. Voting is fairly stupid anyways because all you're doing is voting for the most likable liar anyways.
I genuinely thought you were smarter than this. If this is really how you feel then I'd probably consider you incredibly jaded and disillusioned.
Besides that, you should care about voting for your local officials, senators, and representatives because those are the people making decisions that directly affect you, and one vote can and has changed history in those cases. That's not to mention there were five people on the ballot this time around, and a neat little blank space where you can pencil in anyone's name. So, to me, there seems absolutely no reason not to vote. A vote for what you believe in is never wasted.
But you're a grown man, and if that is your attitude you're probably better off staying away from the polls anyway.
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Burks wrote:
My vote would have made no difference.
I would have voted for Romney.
Did Romney lose by one vote in Ohio? No he did not. Nor do I care if the argument is used a million times over. Voting is fairly stupid anyways because all you're doing is voting for the most likable liar anyways.
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My vote would have made no difference.
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Stayed up all night in the student union last night to watch the results, lets just say the general consensus is different here
The general consensus here is the same as the general consensus where you are.
I voted absentee, so yesterday I just got to kick back and watch.
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If I had to choose between the two, Romney was a slightly shinier turd than Obama.
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And that's a nice sentiment, Burks. I dunno where you live but voting where I live took like 10-15mins.
But hey, choosing not to vote is your right just as much as voting is.
My vote would have made no difference. If I had to choose between the two, Romney was a slightly shinier turd than Obama.
It's the second coming of the savior, we're saved.
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Don't forget to get gas if you drive! haha be ready for prices to shoot up again after the election.
Only 17 here can't vote but I do know gas can be a pain
Edit: woo 100 posts XD imma boss :p.
well done young padawan
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Voted!
Though Illinois is such a Democratic state that it really doesn't matter which way I went. Really it was just for the local elections.
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