Cross reference these states with unemployment rates.
That's the problem with unions in today's economy.
At one point they had a purpose. In the 20's-50's work conditions were horrible and pay was worse. These days there's already protections for the workers and laws that forbid stuff like paying somebody barely enough to live on and terrifying work conditions.
So now unions result in huge monopolies on labor that demand obscene pay for jobs that don't really deserve it. Then if you don't pay, your entire labor force is gone. They've effectively strangled Detroit already and many other states they have a labor monopoly in. I think in some ways they once had a purpose and were a good thing to have. But now they're bloated self-interest groups more trying to serve the interests of the leaders than the people they supposedly serve. They threaten employees that disagree and intimidate the workers into going along with the union desires... In my opinion, the unions now are as big of a danger to the economy as the conditions they were created to prevent in their inception.
Statistics: Posted by Znath — December 28th, 2011, 1:04 pm
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They had a hand in ruining GM and many other companies. Nothing like paying people to sit around and do NOTHING.....because you can't fire them for free of the union suing you. Literally.....guys sat around and did nothing. Couldn't fire them. Couldn't call their bluffs on being sick for days at a time, yet they update Facebook with pictures of them on vacation.
Statistics: Posted by Burks — December 13th, 2011, 9:00 am
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oic. Troll.
Not trolling.
At my workplace, which is heavily unionised (I'm not in a union), they fought hard to make sure everyone got a 20c payrise. Most of the people are lazy
who barely belong in a job, let alone get a payrise. By comparison I work my ass off, I managed a department with no experience and sales were up 9% on the equvilant week last year. I get the same raise as the shitheads who spend all day around looking at the clock.As for taking kids to riots, the Maritime Union of Australia did this in the late 1990s in response to government efforts to increase efficiency on the docks (We had worse waterfront efficiency than landlocked countries thanks to union thuggery).
Statistics: Posted by Magicana Drofulcus — December 8th, 2011, 1:24 pm
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You understand the need and POINT of unions, right?
Diluting effective workers in order to boost the least productive in society? Taking their children to riots in Australia to get the Government bad publicity?
Statistics: Posted by Magicana Drofulcus — December 8th, 2011, 3:46 am
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Statistics: Posted by Rayseima — December 8th, 2011, 3:01 am
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Oh. You don't believe in unions. Do you belong to a union?
No.
Statistics: Posted by Magicana Drofulcus — December 7th, 2011, 8:40 pm
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Demon wrote:
I don't believe it was referring to college?
Which makes me wonder if Znath even read... Clearly he says that child labour laws are stupid and that the poor students work alongside with the janitors instead of, I don't know... Getting an education? This has nothing to do with your mommy or daddy paying for your college...
This would be for students whose families have no money. Instead of having them sit around at home doing nothing, the idea would be to get them working to improve the school. This obviously wouldn't be cutting into class time, and would help to build a solid work ethic. Is it ideal? No. Life generally isn't ideal.
As to the comments regarding putting regular janitors out of work: That's the point. He's arguing that they're a high unionized body who are costing a lot more money than they should.
Statistics: Posted by Magicana Drofulcus — December 7th, 2011, 4:57 pm
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I don't believe it was referring to college?
Which makes me wonder if Znath even read... Clearly he says that child labour laws are stupid and that the poor students work alongside with the janitors instead of, I don't know... Getting an education? This has nothing to do with your mommy or daddy paying for your college...
Statistics: Posted by Regulus — December 7th, 2011, 11:13 am
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It's honest work and can keep you living cheaply off campus.
I lucked into a good job with work-study, but there are lots of other good jobs that people can get, maybe not very glamorous ones but good jobs through work study.
I believe that's what Newt is talking about in this case is work study.
When mommy and daddy can't pay for your college, you'll reconsider working even as a janitor.
Statistics: Posted by Znath — December 6th, 2011, 11:40 pm
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schools falling apart (my high school was supposed to last 5-10 years, it is now 45 years old), and so forth.
My high school was a lot like this, just a bunch of trailers that have been there for at least 40 years or so. They had just recently started building actual buildings around my freshman year there.
Burks wrote:
We actually had a "class" in high school that you were an assistant to a teacher.
TA's? We had those too. Easy credit for doing like nothing, lol.
Statistics: Posted by Christopher — December 6th, 2011, 1:36 pm
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Ideally, the government should allot funds to these schools to pay for the supplies that students can't afford. Obviously that may not be entirely possible given the current US budget, but there has to be a better solution than child labor.
Supposedly that is what some state run lotteries are to be used for. They can hand out millions in winnings but kids still don't even have simple supplies (pencils, pens, crayons, etc)? Schools are continually having to be combined because they can't afford to run on their own, schools falling apart (my high school was supposed to last 5-10 years, it is now 45 years old), and so forth.
We actually had a "class" in high school that you were an assistant to a teacher. I always ended up in gym class or sleeping in the AD's office while he was away getting drun.......I mean "official business".
Statistics: Posted by Burks — December 6th, 2011, 12:12 pm
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Dakota Lesmercy wrote:
IS that technically called slavery?
Dakota.
Dakota.
Slavery with payment and education, the perfect disguise.
Rayseima wrote:
Jeez, there've been like 7 topics in the past month about the stupidity of America. Is this some kind of trend now or is it just really coindidental?
Nope. Just America for ya It's amazing we're still a country of our own after all these years. xD
Statistics: Posted by Demon — December 5th, 2011, 9:28 pm
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On one hand, I can appreciate the idea of wanting to give poor students the opportunity to gain the money to pay for their school supplies and whatnot. On the other hand, it 1.) Puts the jobs of current janitors at risk, and 2.) Doesn't do much to reduce the disadvantage these kids are at (either they can't afford school supplies, or they're too damn tired during class to properly focus on their education).
Ideally, the government should allot funds to these schools to pay for the supplies that students can't afford. Obviously that may not be entirely possible given the current US budget, but there has to be a better solution than child labor.
Statistics: Posted by Christopher — December 5th, 2011, 9:09 pm
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