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RuneVillage.com Where Gamers Escape! 2011-10-22T22:28:36-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/feed.php?f=16&t=434941 2011-10-22T22:28:36-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10296117#p10296117 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> Znath wrote:

I guess I'll take the unpopular route.
But he got what was coming to him...

Qaddafi ordered jets to bomb his own people.
He ordered tanks to roll in and shoot up the place.
It's hard to expect anything good to happen to somebody that does that.

Would I have shot him if I was in their place? I don't know, but I can't imagine myself being that far oppressed. I'm mostly amazed he only got shot I guess.


They say that Gaddafi wasn't begging to them, but actually cursing out the rebels that seized him.

But it was his choice he could have went into exile with alot of money but instead chose to fight, so you got to give him that.

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2011-10-22T14:01:41-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10296082#p10296082 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> But he got what was coming to him...

Qaddafi ordered jets to bomb his own people.
He ordered tanks to roll in and shoot up the place.
It's hard to expect anything good to happen to somebody that does that.

Would I have shot him if I was in their place? I don't know, but I can't imagine myself being that far oppressed. I'm mostly amazed he only got shot I guess.

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2011-10-22T13:04:02-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10296073#p10296073 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> Dark Paladin wrote:

It's sad to see how his life ended, no one deserves to die in that way... even if people say he was a dictator or w/e.

But I really didn't expect differently. This is the obvious result of supporting such rebels. I think it's the carelessness of the coalition and NATO, mainly whoever provided weapons to the rebels, which seems to be mostly France.

What do you really expect of a government that supports such actions to become?


People to be rebelious.

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2011-10-22T12:23:19-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10296072#p10296072 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]>
But I really didn't expect differently. This is the obvious result of supporting such rebels. I think it's the carelessness of the coalition and NATO, mainly whoever provided weapons to the rebels, which seems to be mostly France.

What do you really expect of a government that supports such actions to become?

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2011-10-22T10:19:03-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10296061#p10296061 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> Magicana Drofulcus wrote:

The last Islamic country this sort of thing happened in (Rebels shooting a leader begging for mercy), we ended up with Saddam ruling over Iraq for 30 years. The new Libyan government will not be fans of democracy.

Can't agree more. The Arab Spring obsession disgusts me.

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2011-10-22T10:16:38-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10296059#p10296059 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]>
Colonel Gaddafi :laugh:

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2011-10-22T00:33:39-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10296037#p10296037 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> Statistics: Posted by Magicana Drofulcus — October 22nd, 2011, 12:33 am


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2011-10-21T23:31:40-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10296032#p10296032 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]>
I heard some human rights group is trying to go after the rebels saying they just executed him.
Yea.. there's supposed to be some grandiose trial and THEN they execute him. But nobody's going to know who did it and how would they even prove it at this point? It's just a wonder it didn't happen sooner or more brutally.

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2011-10-20T11:38:45-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10295903#p10295903 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> Statistics: Posted by Zizi — October 20th, 2011, 11:38 am


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2011-08-23T14:17:06-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10285946#p10285946 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> Here is the current Timeline

Rebels from the west make a surprise attack on Tripoli and the Rebels in Misruta attacked from the east and take Green Square and rename it Martyrs square.

Saif Al Islam, a son of Muommar Gaddafi was reported captured but was found in Rixos hotel, saying Gaddafi is still in control.

Tense fighting happens between forces loyal to Gaddafi "Loyalists" and the rebels however many loyalist positions do not put up a good resistance.

Gaddafi's compound falls to the rebels after little fighting, looting of guns and equipment are taken from the compound, Muommar Gaddafi nowhere to be found.

Thoughts?

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2011-08-23T13:49:48-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10272909#p10272909 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]>
Just let Gaddafi stay in power.. *sigh*

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2011-04-18T05:47:17-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10272877#p10272877 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]>

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2011-03-31T12:20:29-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10271019#p10271019 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]>

EDIT: Oh and I get what you mean Zizi, but I would still prefer an international organization deal with these rather than individual nations. Would at least be an international effort and I guess also prevent people from pointing fingers...

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2011-03-31T10:17:53-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10271008#p10271008 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> As for whether the rebel will be more favorable towards United States, this is not so clear cut, the fact is West is getting much of what they wanted from Gaddafi already, immigration control and oil rights. So Rebels can't offer anything new to the West, but that is not to say West will not gain from this. By remove Gaddafi, Obama have set a very high standard in which USA will interfere in the current revolution in the Arab world. This means regimes such as Bahrain and Jordan, which are American Allies and also facing protests are given a carte blanche. America can say the situation isn't at the level of Libya so we will not help the protesters, hence help maintain these regimes, without look like having a double standard.

p.s. US covert units are in Libya already, before UN resolution 1973, hence Obama can say the new resolution does not lead to boots on the ground for USA. Technicalities, love them.

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2011-03-30T19:00:09-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10270919#p10270919 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]>
But still, they don't really want him to step down, they just assigned the ICC to investigate, so there is no official right to have any offensives against Gaddafi.. if that's the case the right thing to do would probably be to just go on with the no-fly-zone by NATO and somehow find a political resolution, make the two sides negotiate.

Arming rebels is probably the most economically favorable solution for the US, but it is a destructive thing to do... they're not professional and probably not even recognized individually - how can that even be an option?

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2011-03-30T13:43:00-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10270898#p10270898 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> Statistics: Posted by Zizi — March 30th, 2011, 1:43 pm


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2011-03-30T13:00:21-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10270894#p10270894 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> Statistics: Posted by Dark Paladin — March 30th, 2011, 1:00 pm


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2011-03-30T11:10:36-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10270877#p10270877 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]>
As for mission objective, NATO while have a clear aim, lacks exit strategy, without remove Gaddafi or waiting for political solutions between the warring parties, NATO is stuck in Libya, and it appears that stalemate is more likely than not now, can NATO last that long? As for United States and Britain, we say Gaddafi have to go, and yet we are not start a regime change operation, I don't know what is Obama hoping to happen, Gaddafi quit for no reason? because he can outlast any western politicians if current situation continues. If United States does not start a military action to remove Gaddafi, we might as well just let Gaddafi run his country.

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2011-03-30T09:12:39-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10270862#p10270862 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> http://www.euronews.net/2011/03/28/rasm ... for-libya/
http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-set-to-g ... rom=smh_sb

So, at the moment rebels are withdrawing back to the east-side of Libya and there is this huge debate whether the mission is accomplished or more actions need to be taken. Some nations like the US and UK are thinking of sending arms to the rebels to help them continue the war and fight back Gaddafi forces and 'liberate' the west from him. NATO, however, does not support those actions as their mission is only to protect the people from attacks.

I personally think that NATO has been as clear as it can be about its mission objectives, but that the US and UK haven't.

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2011-03-26T19:45:18-06:00 http://poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=434941&p=10270475#p10270475 <![CDATA[Re: Libya]]> That would essentially cut the world's oil supply in half.

At that point it will be hard if not IMPOSSIBLE for people to ignore drilling and coal..
People get all worried about fuel prices when this crap happens,
but the truth of the matter is if we had been using our own resources to begin with,
it wouldn't even be an issue. Thanks EPA.

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